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Mar 23, 2010 3:14 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Joyfullspirit
JoyfullspiritJoyfullspiritBenton Harbor, Michigan USA2 Threads 74 Posts
Okay - I understand the forgive part, but where does the 'forget' come from? According to what little I've learned about how the human brain works,it is neurologically impossible to simply forget at will, and yet these two terms are linked together as if synonymous. Even if it were possible to forget an offense would it really be wise to do so? Does the fact that I still remember mean I haven't truly forgiven? frustrated
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Mar 23, 2010 3:16 PM CST Forgive & forget?
woohoo128
woohoo128woohoo128staring at the moon somewhere, Essex, England UK80 Threads 3 Polls 5,081 Posts
Joyfullspirit: Okay - I understand the forgive part, but where does the 'forget' come from? According to what little I've learned about how the human brain works,it is neurologically impossible to simply forget at will, and yet these two terms are linked together as if synonymous. Even if it were possible to forget an offense would it really be wise to do so? Does the fact that I still remember mean I haven't truly forgiven?





luckily I'm getting on Saturday team is quite easy
I have to check every morning to make sure I've got my underpants on site think it is humanly possible to forgetgrin
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Mar 23, 2010 3:17 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
I might forgive, but I'll never forget....
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Mar 23, 2010 3:18 PM CST Forgive & forget?
woohoo128
woohoo128woohoo128staring at the moon somewhere, Essex, England UK80 Threads 3 Polls 5,081 Posts
woohoo128: luckily I'm getting on Saturday team so forgetting is quite easy
I have to check every morning to make sure I've got my underpants on site think it is humanly possible to forget

doh see
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Mar 23, 2010 3:18 PM CST Forgive & forget?
lushguy4you
lushguy4youlushguy4youIstanbul, Marmara Turkey44 Threads 3,004 Posts
Olsojente: I might forgive, but I'll never forget....


you never forget lush grin
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Mar 23, 2010 3:20 PM CST Forgive & forget?
demonfairy
demonfairydemonfairyNewton,hickory, North Carolina USA120 Threads 17 Polls 5,654 Posts
Olsojente: I might forgive, but I'll never forget....
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Mar 23, 2010 3:21 PM CST Forgive & forget?
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
Joyfullspirit: Okay - I understand the forgive part, but where does the 'forget' come from? According to what little I've learned about how the human brain works,it is neurologically impossible to simply forget at will, and yet these two terms are linked together as if synonymous. Even if it were possible to forget an offense would it really be wise to do so? Does the fact that I still remember mean I haven't truly forgiven?


No, I don't think its possible to forget.....

Errrmmm...

Sorry, what was the question again?! roll eyes doh

grin
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Mar 23, 2010 3:25 PM CST Forgive & forget?
lovely4u7da
lovely4u7dalovely4u7dachicago, Illinois USA32 Threads 1,337 Posts
What I think happens over time in true forgiveness you began to heal from the pain and hurt of what ever it was that happen to you even tho you may never forget the action
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Mar 23, 2010 3:27 PM CST Forgive & forget?
markizamkd25
markizamkd25markizamkd25Skive, Central Jutland Denmark235 Threads 5 Polls 4,706 Posts
Doesent work for me...i dont have that heart that forgives and forgets conversing
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Mar 23, 2010 3:28 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Joyfullspirit: Okay - I understand the forgive part, but where does the 'forget' come from? According to what little I've learned about how the human brain works,it is neurologically impossible to simply forget at will, and yet these two terms are linked together as if synonymous. Even if it were possible to forget an offense would it really be wise to do so? Does the fact that I still remember mean I haven't truly forgiven?
You are right. The phrase is for kindred use only--it really, as you say, cannot be applied. There's actually an old saying that demonstrates this better than anything else:

"nobody ever fergits where he buried a hatchet". (Cowboy Philosophy")
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Mar 23, 2010 3:29 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Joyfullspirit
JoyfullspiritJoyfullspiritBenton Harbor, Michigan USA2 Threads 74 Posts
lovely4u7da: What I think happens over time in true forgiveness you began to heal from the pain and hurt of what ever it was that happen to you even tho you may never forget the action

I agree with that - just tired of being accused of holding a grudge because I refuse to set myself up for the same thing to happen again. very mad
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Mar 23, 2010 3:31 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Joyfullspirit
JoyfullspiritJoyfullspiritBenton Harbor, Michigan USA2 Threads 74 Posts
rohaan: You are right. The phrase is for kindred use only--it really, as you say, cannot be applied. There's actually an old saying that demonstrates this better than anything else:

"nobody ever fergits where he buried a hatchet". (Cowboy Philosophy")

Thanks - I like thatthumbs up
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Mar 23, 2010 3:35 PM CST Forgive & forget?
EarthAngelinLove
EarthAngelinLoveEarthAngelinLoveGod's Country, North Carolina USA25 Threads 218 Posts
Joyfullspirit: Okay - I understand the forgive part, but where does the 'forget' come from? According to what little I've learned about how the human brain works,it is neurologically impossible to simply forget at will, and yet these two terms are linked together as if synonymous. Even if it were possible to forget an offense would it really be wise to do so? Does the fact that I still remember mean I haven't truly forgiven?


Can you imagine all the "emotional baggage" we'd all carry around if we didn't learn to "forgive & forget"?

We've all done something, or said something, or even neglectably not done or said something for something special to us; and we've wanted forgiveness and a chance to restart again; do we not owe that to the persons we Love or persons who we come in contact with each day?professor

Besides "forgiveness" is as much for the person offering it, as for the person who needs it. It releases the "heavy weight" in our hearts.heart beating

Sometimes I need more time to forgive someone the hurt he/she has caused my heart, but I always try to forgive and forget wrongs done to me, and not carry them around like a old pair of tennis shoes which should have been done away with ages ago.

JMO
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Mar 23, 2010 3:40 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Joyfullspirit
JoyfullspiritJoyfullspiritBenton Harbor, Michigan USA2 Threads 74 Posts
*thanks earthangel! I do agree with the benefits of forgiving another, but really - how does one forget? Is it nothing more than a passage of time? Even then, can time erase actions that have caused permanent changes to the person we are/ are becoming? (without going into detail I'm not referring to something trivial like forgetting an anniversary, etc)
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Mar 23, 2010 3:47 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
True, you do not forget. While the memory may be tucked away somewhere, it is there, although a tramatic brain injury can, and will, cause loss of memory. That conscience, memory, is there for a reason, and many think that a written law passed to relieve the conscience is going to help them. Of the forgetting you speak of requires repentance, has well as forgiveness. It is then you can move on, having faced with it in truth.
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Mar 23, 2010 3:52 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Joyfullspirit
JoyfullspiritJoyfullspiritBenton Harbor, Michigan USA2 Threads 74 Posts
Abram: True, you do not forget. While the memory may be tucked away somewhere, it is there, although a tramatic brain injury can, and will, cause loss of memory. That conscience, memory, is there for a reason, and many think that a written law passed to relieve the conscience is going to help them. Of the forgetting you speak of requires repentance, has well as forgiveness. It is then you can move on, having faced with it in truth.


Not sure that I fully understand all of what you're saying here.
Written law to relieve the conscience???
Repentance??
confused
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Mar 23, 2010 4:21 PM CST Forgive & forget?
EarthAngelinLove
EarthAngelinLoveEarthAngelinLoveGod's Country, North Carolina USA25 Threads 218 Posts
Joyfullspirit: *thanks earthangel! I do agree with the benefits of forgiving another, but really - how does one forget? Is it nothing more than a passage of time? Even then, can time erase actions that have caused permanent changes to the person we are/ are becoming? (without going into detail I'm not referring to something trivial like forgetting an anniversary, etc)


I do think "Time" helps, maybe doesn't heal all wounds, but does help.

I understand what you're saying about anniversaries, birthdays, holidays spent together, vacation trips, special times altogether that shape our memories and our hearts for the one(s) we've Loved. Very very difficult to try to forget and move on, but all of us have to do it at some time in our lives, and for some of us, seems more recent than we like to think about.

Hugs for you if you're going through this right nowhug

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Mar 23, 2010 4:27 PM CST Forgive & forget?
sweetlyscented1
sweetlyscented1sweetlyscented1Gosford, New South Wales Australia60 Threads 1 Polls 3,060 Posts
If something BIG has happened in your life, done by someone you cared about.....then you can forgive but dont believe you EVER will forget how it made you feel at the time...if its DEEP hurt the memory normally stay's with us....sadly sigh

Hugs if your In pain

teddybear teddybear
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Mar 23, 2010 4:34 PM CST Forgive & forget?
Yash124g
Yash124gYash124gEdinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK9 Threads 1 Polls 1,237 Posts
As others have mentioned, people do not really forget, however new things happen in out lives that make those thoughts go to the back our minds, but every so often, something will trigger those bad memories, and hopefully reminds us to be thankful for the person we are with now, if you are lucky enough to find that special person wine
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Mar 23, 2010 4:36 PM CST Forgive & forget?
I may forgive but I rarely forget a situation.
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