POLICE PURSUITS (19)
With tracking technology available these days, there simply is no need for high speed chases. 
Sometimes I wonder if the accident would have still happened only further down the road, regardless of the police.
I agree that in built up areas the police may well need to back off... isnt that when we should have choppers following them?? Or shouldnt we be using those road spikes??
Personally I feel sorry for the police.
I agree that in built up areas the police may well need to back off... isnt that when we should have choppers following them?? Or shouldnt we be using those road spikes??
Personally I feel sorry for the police.
Toffeapple: In Canberra recently a young male with his girlfriend in a stolen car, being pursued by police up to the previous set of lights before they ceased, went through a red light, hit another car, killing all 3 occupants, and himself. His girlfriend is in hospital in a serious condition.
So what do you think of police pursuits - should they be allowed to continue? Should they never start?
If your car was stolen would you expect the perpetrator to be chased down?
I believe police should do their job, with all reasonable means. If that means chase them down, then do so. BUT, if they are in a high traffic area or within other dangerous boundaries (near schools, shopping centres etc) then they should back off. Others say they should never commence in the first place. But then is that allowing the criminal to get away with it too easily?
Your views?
So what do you think of police pursuits - should they be allowed to continue? Should they never start?
If your car was stolen would you expect the perpetrator to be chased down?
I believe police should do their job, with all reasonable means. If that means chase them down, then do so. BUT, if they are in a high traffic area or within other dangerous boundaries (near schools, shopping centres etc) then they should back off. Others say they should never commence in the first place. But then is that allowing the criminal to get away with it too easily?
Your views?
I think it's hard to comment on some of these pursuits without knowing the full story. I mean, the guy driving the vehicle in this instance was already wanted for a previous car theft and maybe other crimes
So I'm thinking that it's often more about the driver than the stolen vehicle and the police are taking the opportunity to catch a suspect when they spot him.
But in answer to your question, no, I certainly wouldn't expect a chase to go on if it was purely about my car being stolen .. the risks just aren't worth it.
The Chase is always better than the catch.......
I believe people shouldn’t steal other peoples cars? Who’s too say if the police had not chased them, then another more serious accident could of happened elsewhere?
If you jump into a new car, does it not take you time to get used too it?
People who steal cars are not going to be obeying the road rules! They are only good at stealing cars!
If you jump into a new car, does it not take you time to get used too it?
People who steal cars are not going to be obeying the road rules! They are only good at stealing cars!
Over here there is a point where the pursuit gets called off, usually its when there is excessive speed involved and when continuing the pursuit would endanger the public, that being said, when they call off a pursuit the helicopter usually monitors the vehicle in question.
EliteOne: I’m talking about communications such as2 way radios street surveillance cameras helicopters…etc.
Ohhhhhhhh. Sorry Elite. I do agree with that. You would think that with todays gadgets they could do just about anything.
DjWabbet: Over here there is a point where the pursuit gets called off, usually its when there is excessive speed involved and when continuing the pursuit would endanger the public, that being said, when they call off a pursuit the helicopter usually monitors the vehicle in question.
this sounds like a sensible way to deal with it. I guess though they would still try to out run the chopper too!
Elite - doesn't the technology require the chip or whatever also being in the car? Would be brilliant if car manufacturers could be invite to do just that.....
EliteOne: With tracking technology available these days, there simply is no need for high speed chases.
serene56: I think it's hard to comment on some of these pursuits without knowing the full story. I mean, the guy driving the vehicle in this instance was already wanted for a previous car theft and maybe other crimes
So I'm thinking that it's often more about the driver than the stolen vehicle and the police are taking the opportunity to catch a suspect when they spot him.
But in answer to your question, no, I certainly wouldn't expect a chase to go on if it was purely about my car being stolen .. the risks just aren't worth it.
So I'm thinking that it's often more about the driver than the stolen vehicle and the police are taking the opportunity to catch a suspect when they spot him.
But in answer to your question, no, I certainly wouldn't expect a chase to go on if it was purely about my car being stolen .. the risks just aren't worth it.
Yes, that is what I think - it is more about the perp than the car and some of these guys just need to be caught for everyone's safety and that is what the police also need to weigh up.
Hmmm....Canberra with a helicopter to chase criminals? That would be the day! We just don't have the population to pay for it me thinks. But one for the community is very much needed. 
Toffeapple: Larf - spot on! victims are often very poorly treated and as you say the criminals are protected too often...
many people dont realise that a murderer serving life behind bars has more rights than you or i as law abiding citizens have.
some years ago, over here a politicians official car was nicked, the police chased it with 17 patrol cars acros 2 states, on the way they wrecked 4 police cars and caused 2 other road crashes.
and guess what, they didnt catch the thieves. The body, or at least what was left of it, was recovered from over the border in poland some 7 months later.
and guess what, they didnt catch the thieves. The body, or at least what was left of it, was recovered from over the border in poland some 7 months later.
I had a sports car speed past me once...scariest thing!! All sorts of things ran through my head, like if that car had hit me, i would have died FOR SURE....
I don't agree with it...it's not worth it...police chasing the crim, only makes the crim panic more...GOD, i hated hearing that on the news...let'em go...
I don't agree with it...it's not worth it...police chasing the crim, only makes the crim panic more...GOD, i hated hearing that on the news...let'em go...
DjWabbet: Over here there is a point where the pursuit gets called off, usually its when there is excessive speed involved and when continuing the pursuit would endanger the public, that being said, when they call off a pursuit the helicopter usually monitors the vehicle in question.
We get high speed chasing around where I am now and again unlike the big cities, we don't have the police helicopter.
Especially late nights & early mornings when you have the idiots planting their foots to the petal, yes you hear them racing and sometimes, you are just listening for the bang as can be quite hair raising sometimes.
These people that are been chased are endangering everyone else life on the road and the police have a hard enough job as it is
dealing with them.
The police have a hard enought job as it is and I support the need for pursuits and unfortunely sometimes that does end in tragedy for some but the police too have to live and deal with that too.
Interesting to note too that it seems the driver of the 'innocent' car was a friend of the criminal and was due to face court himself soon on car theft charges. One article also said that he was supposed to keep away from his girlfriend who died in the car with him plus their 4 month old. A very sad and strange outcome.
If you weren't directly affected, you could say - they met by accident! Oops, did I say that!
Apologies everyone.
If you weren't directly affected, you could say - they met by accident! Oops, did I say that!
Apologies everyone.
melty1: this sounds like a sensible way to deal with it. I guess though they would still try to out run the chopper too!
that's the way it's done here in SA too Melts
Car manufacturers need to be forced to add a security feature to cars to stop them being stolen (yes....I know we already have immobilisers - but it appears they can be easily got around....yes??) - but we need to be able to stop them completely - or would that lead car thievess to other occupations that might just be worse......
sigh - no answer really .....
sigh - no answer really .....
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So what do you think of police pursuits - should they be allowed to continue? Should they never start?
If your car was stolen would you expect the perpetrator to be chased down?
I believe police should do their job, with all reasonable means. If that means chase them down, then do so. BUT, if they are in a high traffic area or within other dangerous boundaries (near schools, shopping centres etc) then they should back off. Others say they should never commence in the first place. But then is that allowing the criminal to get away with it too easily?
Your views?