Al Gore was right after all. ( Archived) (118)

Feb 13, 2011 6:16 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
All you climate change doubters better take heed. By trying to portray climate change as a hoax and a scam in favor of protecting the profits of big corporations and big oil companies, you are diverting attention from a major problem that is approaching the tipping point. This could lead to alteration of food production on a biblical scale which we could have taken steps to mitigate if not forced to spend energy and time arguing over whether or not our climate is warming up.

When politics gets involved with science bad outcomes happen. The same thing happens when religion insinuates itself in science.

It doesn't mean a thing if a few localities break record low temps or heavy snow falls when viewed on a global scale. Globally is the only way to measure climate change. Not whether or not it snows in the UK or Oklahoma.

The only question that could be debated is whether or not mankind is contributing to global warming NOT is global warming occurring. It is. That's a fact.

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Feb 13, 2011 6:40 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Al Gore was not right at all. Our Earth weather goes through cycles. If anything, we are headed to a new ice age, not Global Warming. Human Beings have very little effect on the Environment. Volcanoes have much more of an effect...

Just my opinion, but I will post both sides of this issue:

Planet Earth - **SAVE IT**



Remind again; how can you argue against this video?

George Carlin - Saving the Planet

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Feb 13, 2011 6:43 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
Loveiswonderful
LoveiswonderfulLoveiswonderfulMelbourne, Victoria Australia5 Threads 247 Posts
johnaustin123: Human Beings have very little effect on the Environment


Yes deforestation occurs naturally. Well I guess it does when lava hits trees rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 13, 2011 6:50 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
ooby_dooby: All you climate change doubters better take heed. By trying to portray climate change as a hoax and a scam in favor of protecting the profits of big corporations and big oil companies, you are diverting attention from a major problem that is approaching the tipping point. This could lead to alteration of food production on a biblical scale which we could have taken steps to mitigate if not forced to spend energy and time arguing over whether or not our climate is warming up.

When politics gets involved with science bad outcomes happen. The same thing happens when religion insinuates itself in science.

It doesn't mean a thing if a few localities break record low temps or heavy snow falls when viewed on a global scale. Globally is the only way to measure climate change. Not whether or not it snows in the UK or Oklahoma.

The only question that could be debated is whether or not mankind is contributing to global warming NOT is global warming occurring. It is. That's a fact.



Just answer one question, Obbie.

Why did the UK group of profs, that did the global warming data, attempt to cover up their errored data and collection methods?

That is what those inner group emails was all about ....back prior to the Coopenhagen conference on global warming. It was a cvover up. I know that the UK Government Commission said. But they so tried to cover their flaw data and collection methods.

Until they get publicaly get honest with their data and collection techniques, I am skeptic. They are playing on world's emotions for a green world and making big Dollars or Pounds from it. jmo
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Feb 13, 2011 6:51 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Loveiswonderful: Yes deforestation occurs naturally. Well I guess it does when lava hits trees


That will deforest the Amazon even...
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Feb 13, 2011 6:53 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
This is where I live for months. I fear and sometimes experience these happenings. This is not caused by Mankind.

Kilauea Volcano Erupts - Dramatic Video

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Feb 13, 2011 7:01 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
ManBearPig is real. I'm serial. So saith Al Gore.
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Feb 13, 2011 7:11 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
I rest my case here. Mankind could do this with a nuclear bomb, but Mother Nature has the advantage.

(Look at the next videos in line or at the right sidebar)

Mount St. Helens Erupting



Mount St. Helens

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Feb 13, 2011 7:49 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Ahhhh ! Here we go again . Yes the Earth has gone through many climate changes . This may be another one of them . I'm not shure how much we are contributing but we ARE contributing . This is getting to be like a religious subject . Believe only what you want and close your ears to what you don't . I'm old and probably won't be around when bad affects take place . So to whoever is last standing you can say either "I'm right" Or " I told you so " !
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Feb 13, 2011 7:51 PM CST Al Gore was right after all.
ttom500: Just answer one question, Obbie.

Why did the UK group of profs, that did the global warming data, attempt to cover up their errored data and collection methods?

That is what those inner group emails was all about ....back prior to the Coopenhagen conference on global warming. It was a cvover up. I know that the UK Government Commission said. But they so tried to cover their flaw data and collection methods.

Until they get publicaly get honest with their data and collection techniques, I am skeptic. They are playing on world's emotions for a green world and making big Dollars or Pounds from it. jmo
I answered this question back in July of last year in case you missed it.

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Feb 14, 2011 1:51 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
ooby_dooby: All you climate change doubters better take heed. By trying to portray climate change as a hoax and a scam in favor of protecting the profits of big corporations and big oil companies, you are diverting attention from a major problem that is approaching the tipping point. This could lead to alteration of food production on a biblical scale which we could have taken steps to mitigate if not forced to spend energy and time arguing over whether or not our climate is warming up.

When politics gets involved with science bad outcomes happen. The same thing happens when religion insinuates itself in science.

It doesn't mean a thing if a few localities break record low temps or heavy snow falls when viewed on a global scale. Globally is the only way to measure climate change. Not whether or not it snows in the UK or Oklahoma.

The only question that could be debated is whether or not mankind is contributing to global warming NOT is global warming occurring. It is. That's a fact.


I don't think too many people are debating the fact that climate change is happening. It's happened since this place was created. It's happened since before mankind existed so I have to think that our contributions to tainting the environment are minimal at best. That's not to say we shouldn't take care of our environment because we should. However, the whole global warming theory/concept stinks of political and personal agendas. This seems like nothing more than a move to strike fear in the masses just as the global cooling theory did in the 70s. More would know about that had this internet device been available during that time. In the mean time, there will be those that buy this and those that don't. I for one do not.

JMO
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Feb 14, 2011 2:04 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
gardenhackle: ManBearPig is real. I'm serial. So saith Al Gore.
And it's sitting in a Mansion somewhere in Tennessee,if it is not Globetrotting through the World somewhere,saving the Climate,while creating a #22 Carbon Foot-Print!laugh
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Feb 14, 2011 3:52 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
venusandmars
venusandmarsvenusandmarsUvongo, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa5 Threads 97 Posts
ooby_dooby: All you climate change doubters better take heed. By trying to portray climate change as a hoax and a scam in favor of protecting the profits of big corporations and big oil companies, you are diverting attention from a major problem that is approaching the tipping point. This could lead to alteration of food production on a biblical scale which we could have taken steps to mitigate if not forced to spend energy and time arguing over whether or not our climate is warming up.

When politics gets involved with science bad outcomes happen. The same thing happens when religion insinuates itself in science.

It doesn't mean a thing if a few localities break record low temps or heavy snow falls when viewed on a global scale. Globally is the only way to measure climate change. Not whether or not it snows in the UK or Oklahoma.

The only question that could be debated is whether or not mankind is contributing to global warming NOT is global warming occurring. It is. That's a fact.

Mankind is fastening it. The circles had always been, yes - but if you look at the time frame, is it not frightening? The main problem on this world is the overpopulation. People should have stopped breeding or regulated it centuries ago. Especially the poor countries. Look at all these children and the cry for food. With a few people around nature would work perfectly and only the strong one would survive. scold professor
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Feb 14, 2011 4:01 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
venusandmars: Mankind is fastening it. The circles had always been, yes - but if you look at the time frame, is it not frightening? The main problem on this world is the overpopulation. People should have stopped breeding or regulated it centuries ago. Especially the poor countries. Look at all these children and the cry for food. With a few people around nature would work perfectly and only the strong one would survive.
And Who will regulate it?
Who will decide who will live and who will die?uh oh
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Feb 14, 2011 4:04 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Conrad73: And Who will regulate it?
Who will decide who will live and who will die?



We have religion to take care of that.cool laugh
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Feb 14, 2011 4:06 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
kidatheart: We have religion to take care of that.
Oh my,now I am really scared!uh oh grin
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Feb 14, 2011 11:13 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
ooby_dooby: All you climate change doubters better take heed. By trying to portray climate change as a hoax and a scam in favor of protecting the profits of big corporations and big oil companies, you are diverting attention from a major problem that is approaching the tipping point. This could lead to alteration of food production on a biblical scale which we could have taken steps to mitigate if not forced to spend energy and time arguing over whether or not our climate is warming up.

When politics gets involved with science bad outcomes happen. The same thing happens when religion insinuates itself in science.

It doesn't mean a thing if a few localities break record low temps or heavy snow falls when viewed on a global scale. Globally is the only way to measure climate change. Not whether or not it snows in the UK or Oklahoma.

The only question that could be debated is whether or not mankind is contributing to global warming NOT is global warming occurring. It is. That's a fact.

I agree with your post, but I have to say that Gore was wrong (one more time) to use a delicate topic for his own benefit. He is just a dirty politician in my opinion, and his interference has just made things more cloudy.
You are right, the lack of food and water can take a rapid turn in the following years, and we wont have time to even debate as we do now.

This will be the point when arrogance will have to be dropped.
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Feb 14, 2011 11:15 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
Conrad73: And Who will regulate it?
Who will decide who will live and who will die?
Back to a basic state, those questions are pseudo questions, organisms faced to hard conditions for survival, do not wwaste time in that, and the huge and complex construction of mankind (including all its hypocrisy) will crumble down.
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Feb 14, 2011 11:21 AM CST Al Gore was right after all.
larsvegas
larsvegaslarsvegasDublin, Ireland33 Threads 1 Polls 286 Posts
johnaustin123: Human Beings have very little effect on the Environment. Volcanoes have much more of an effect...


Sorry but this is an absolutely senseless comment. Countries are running out of water (producing a kilo of rice for example takes something like 5000 liters of water to grow. only 0.0003 percent of the worlds water is accessible.) We are running out of forrest, fish, other food sources, oil etc. Have you ever looked at the smog in some cities in China for example? Currenly we have about 800 000 000 cars. This is projected to rise to 1 800 000 000 cars. Think about what you buy in the super market every week. Now think of 2 billion people doing the same. Every week, for decades. And you are saying humans don't have an impat on the environment??? Seriously, where have you been living? On the moon maybe?

doh
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