should they remove the viel (35)
ICKLEwarrington, Cheshire, England UK50 Threads 905 Postsjaxc straw (a british MP) has asked for muslim women to remove the viel before he meet with them.............should they or shouldnt they??? what do you think?????????
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soz i meant jack straw
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you mean haystack . yep i think they should take them things from around there faces off ..
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The veils should stay. Paws
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Under what circumstances is he meeting with them? 
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I lived in Iran for almost 3 years. Woman suffer severe, and sometimes fatal consequences for removing their veils. I think those woman should make their own choices. It's not "Jack's" life or cultural beliefs that will be questioned later. It will not be him killed if one of their family members feel it is appropriate.
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thank you darling for taking this thread seriously
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It should be a personal choice not one forced upont them........
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I say stay, it's part of who they are. If that's not respected, there's going to be a major issue at some point regarding rights and traditions if there hasn't been already. There's no reason to remove the veil, but in a position like that I'd ask that they keep their hands open, palms up, and in plain sight at all times due to the nature of things as a whole.
My .02
My .02
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i do so agree with you........... not many know the horrors that await those who do not comply
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Sorry...you still haven't answered the question as to why they are meeting with him...did he request the meeting or did they??
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And how do you suppose they will react to being "patted down" for any concealed weapons?
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take it all off
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Thanks, Wikked. I was wondering why he's meeting with them and whether or not their removing their veils might be a security factor. Who knows who they might "really" be? What reason is he giving for requesting that they remove their veils? If it's simply because he thinks it's a matter of respect due him, he can go suck a big one.
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He is absolutely not due any respect. Respect needs to lie in the tradition and beliefs that someone holds sacred to them. Yes, keep the hands in view as Prof suggested.
As for the "pat down". I'm sure they would "expect" there to be some type of security shakedown. They can't be that naive.
As for the "pat down". I'm sure they would "expect" there to be some type of security shakedown. They can't be that naive.
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If that is the case are they going to tell men and women they are not allowed to wear a cross around their neck, are the Jewish going to be told not to wear a Yamaka (SP?) etc. I agree with the Prof. that security should be concidered but a persons beliefs should not have to be compramised because this man thinks the veils should go. kevin
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I do think that there is a difference between a veil that can conceal your identity and a cross that just hangs from your neck etc. It could be possible for a man to be behind one of those veils.
I just though that with all their other "religious rules" that they would try to refuse a pat down claiming that was disrespectful to their culture.
I just though that with all their other "religious rules" that they would try to refuse a pat down claiming that was disrespectful to their culture.
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Wouldn't that be like asking an american woman to meet you naked.
If you want to date someone you must try to understand the values that they grew up with.
If you want to date someone you must try to understand the values that they grew up with.
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I am assuming this is a personal meeting, since why they are meeting has not been answered, so I think that he should respect their beliefs and traditions. If he cannot, than why is he interested in meeting Muslim women??? We are all quite aware of their use of the veil.
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Perhaps he was expecting them to be of the more modern trend that don't feel the need to be veiled all the time. They DO exist. Still haven't heard who asked for the meeting.
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