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Mar 28, 2011 12:30 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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As Malta receives the first immigrants after the Libyan crisis, the Italian inhabitants of the island of Lampedusa have attempted to blockade their harbour to stop Italian coastguard and navy bringing in more immigrants. The islanders have declared to Italian media that they have had enough and that the situation there is simply impossible.

Authorities had to force the residents away from the main quay in order to allow further disembarkations. In the meantime Italy is sending a number of ships to the island to move a considerable number of illegal immigrants to centres on the mainland.
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Mar 28, 2011 12:45 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
bollywood
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doh doh doh frustrated frustrated scold scold
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Mar 28, 2011 12:47 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Al Jazeera's James Bays reported absolute panic within the opposition forces on the frontline earlier near to Nawfaliya. Following artillery attacks between sides, apparently different rebel troops mistakenly shelled each other and panic ensued as the opposition forces pulled backwards fearing a reprisal by Gaddafi forces.
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Mar 28, 2011 1:09 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
bollywood
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zeus911: Al Jazeera's James Bays reported absolute panic within the opposition forces on the frontline earlier near to Nawfaliya. Following artillery attacks between sides, apparently different rebel troops mistakenly shelled each other and panic ensued as the opposition forces pulled backwards fearing a reprisal by Gaddafi forces.


Been there .done that ..anything new ? drinking
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Mar 28, 2011 6:02 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president and David Cameron, the British prime minister have issued this joint statement on Libya earlier in preparation of a meeting in London tomorrow about the crisis.

According to Sarkozy, France, the United States, Britain and Germany will meet tomorrow to discuss a Franco-British proposal which aims to pave the way for a political transition in Libya.

I'm not sure if these are the only countries to meet and frankly the choice of Germany stands glaringly out considering the country was all against any action as is the non-inclusion of Italy? Perhaps Sarko just mentioned a few of the countries to participate...

Anyhow, amongst a lot of typically expected hype the proposal declares:

"Military action is not an objective as such. A lasting solution can only be a political one that belongs to the Libyan people. That is why the political process that will begin tomorrow in London is so important. The London conference will bring the international community together to support Libya’s transition from violent dictatorship and to help create the conditions where the people of Libya can choose their own future."

This clearly indicates a new initiative by 2 of the main drivers within the coalition to perhaps try a different approach of a political or diplomatic solution to what could otherwise end-up as a stalemate.
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Mar 28, 2011 6:09 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
tomcat1968
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zeus911: Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president and David Cameron, the British prime minister have issued this joint statement on Libya earlier in preparation of a meeting in London tomorrow about the crisis.

According to Sarkozy, France, the United States, Britain and Germany will meet tomorrow to discuss a Franco-British proposal which aims to pave the way for a political transition in Libya.

I'm not sure if these are the only countries to meet and frankly the choice of Germany stands glaringly out considering the country was all against any action as is the non-inclusion of Italy? Perhaps Sarko just mentioned a few of the countries to participate...

Anyhow, amongst a lot of typically expected hype the proposal declares:

"Military action is not an objective as such. A lasting solution can only be a political one that belongs to the Libyan people. That is why the political process that will begin tomorrow in London is so important. The London conference will bring the international community together to support Libya’s transition from violent dictatorship and to help create the conditions where the people of Libya can choose their own future."

This clearly indicates a new initiative by 2 of the main drivers within the coalition to perhaps try a different approach of a political or diplomatic solution to what could otherwise end-up as a stalemate.
Cameron is doing this to look the hard man because internal politics in th uk is turning against himpeace
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Mar 28, 2011 8:18 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
Buffy327
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U know I don't care who does what, and for what reason, as long as support continues for those seeking democracy. I felt really good about President Obama's speech to the Nation tonight and we are finding a lot of bureaucrats are now supporting his actions who were once opposed to any help to Libya. Obama said that control will go back to NATO on Wednesday and the USA will continue with support in the background....The entire 20 minute speech can be seen on CNN. handshake
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Mar 29, 2011 1:19 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Buffy327: U know I don't care who does what, and for what reason, as long as support continues for those seeking democracy. I felt really good about President Obama's speech to the Nation tonight and we are finding a lot of bureaucrats are now supporting his actions who were once opposed to any help to Libya. Obama said that control will go back to NATO on Wednesday and the USA will continue with support in the background....The entire 20 minute speech can be seen on CNN.
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Mar 29, 2011 1:25 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Seems like yesterday's post about Sarko meeting a few select countries wasn't about the conference itself but re a tele-conference with the intent of getting Germany's support for today in London.
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Mar 29, 2011 1:28 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
tomcatwarne
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zeus911: Seems like yesterday's post about Sarko meeting a few select countries wasn't about the conference itself but re a tele-conference with the intent of getting Germany's support for today in London.



It's very confusing the different accredited reports you get, I read this morning that Misrata was in Government hands ???????dunno
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Mar 29, 2011 1:32 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Libya's state-run Al-Libiyah TV quotes Libyan Deputy Foreign Minister Khalid Kaim calling on nations gathering for today’s conference on Libya in London not to push Libyans towards civil war.


The international conference, which would include the UN, Arab states, the African Union, and more than 40 foreign ministers, will focus on coordinating assistance and building a unified international front in condemnation of the Gaddafi regime and in support of a Nato-led military action in Libya.
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Mar 29, 2011 2:39 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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More illegal immigrants continue to arrive in Malta today as two more trips brought around another 300 persons to the island. This brings the total to over 800 immigrants since just yesterday.

Maltese Foreign Minister Tonio Borg made an appeal today in the London Libya-conference to the international community in general and to the European Union in particular about the illegal migration problem caused by the conflict. Needless to say there weren't too many countries volunteering to help out.

Obviously the Italian island of Lampedusa is in a much more serious crisis but since Italy has chosen to criticize Malta in regard to illegal immigrants I shall be selfish about this and only give details about what's happening here.
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Mar 29, 2011 3:02 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
Buffy327
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We hear U head banger One day the world is going to understand that u can't talk about our children or our country....And shame on U if ur caught lying about either one....wave
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Mar 29, 2011 3:06 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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The situation in Misurata main hospital is said to be desperate as it has become inundated with wounded people while the city has been over a week without energy and water after supplies had been cut by government forces.

"The humanitarian situation has become catastrophic", said Sami, an opposition spokesman, via telephone.
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Mar 29, 2011 3:25 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Buffy327: We hear U One day the world is going to understand that u can't talk about our children or our country....And shame on U if ur caught lying about either one....
I know I can always count on your support Buffy, lol! cheers

But seriously, the situation is so bad in Lampedusa that Berlusconi is visiting the island tomorrow...
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Mar 29, 2011 3:30 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
Buffy327
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zeus911: I know I can always count on your support Buffy, lol!

But seriously, the situation is so bad in Lampedusa that Berlusconi is visiting the island tomorrow...


I know, and at some point someone is going to have to address the humanitarian support....Where is it???? crying crying
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Mar 29, 2011 3:50 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Buffy327: I know, and at some point someone is going to have to address the humanitarian support....Where is it????
You mean the island? Well it's about a 113km (70 miles) east of Tunisia and west of Malta, kind of midway between Malta and Tunisia and is actually further south to Sicily than is Malta. That explains why they're getting most landings there...
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Mar 29, 2011 4:18 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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Following yesterday's encouraging westward push, opposition forces where checked drastically today and even pushed back. Troops loyal to Muammar Gaddafi, have shelled pro-democracy forces heading west on the main coastal highway, and pushed them out of Bin Jawad, a small town around 150km east of Sirte.

Not just, but according to Al Jazeera's Hoda-Abdel Hamid who describes the day's events as follows:

"So certainly what we can say at this stage is that Bin Jawad is not any more in the hands of the rebels, actually the Gaddafi forces now are managing to pound Ras Lanuf and are getting closer and closer to them, pushing the opposition fighters eastwards more and more."

She also added that this is basically an exact repeat of what happened about three weeks ago.
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Mar 29, 2011 9:07 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
Buffy327
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zeus911: You mean the island? Well it's about a 113km (70 miles) east of Tunisia and west of Malta, kind of midway between Malta and Tunisia and is actually further south to Sicily than is Malta. That explains why they're getting most landings there...


I was speaking about the money and supplies (food and medical supplies) helping with re-location and accommodations. They have been collecting millions around the world for these people. Red Cross specifically. (I know I got my call for help) No one country can take this responsibility on and still I am not hearing of anyone getting anything.sigh
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Mar 30, 2011 1:13 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part III
zeus911
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A further 151 evacuees arrived in Malta yesterday from Libya on the Greek vessel Ionian King. The vessel came from Misurata where it had transported humanitarian aid.

The evacuees are of several nationalities and include Bangladeshis, Peruvians and South Koreans.
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