Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo? ( Archived) (9)

Mar 23, 2011 8:28 PM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
This was popular around the 40's I believe, maybe even before that. I remember seeing one from an old movie. For example,
"Adam and Eve on a raft" was two eggs on toast, "Wreck em" means make the eggs scrambled.
Anybody remember any others?
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Mar 24, 2011 4:24 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
I think it may be a bit earlier, perhaps from the '30s, originally. I can't remember any; the day of the roadside diner is long passed, fast-food franchises having replaced them decades ago. One bit of jargon survives in restaurants everywhere, which may be descended from diner lingo: "86," meaning, "we're out of it." I myself have heard at least 3 different stories as to how that term originated. I believe none.

wine
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Mar 24, 2011 4:52 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
Also, there's this:



I dunno how much I would believe it. It starts off claiming there's evidence for such a code that dates back to the 1870s or 1880s, but some of the entries ("Arnold Palmer," "Zeppelin") refute that.

wine
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Mar 24, 2011 4:55 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
Dagosto: Also, there's this:



I dunno how much I would believe it. It starts off claiming there's evidence for such a code that dates back to the 1870s or 1880s, but some of the entries ("Arnold Palmer," "Zeppelin") refute that.
Interesting WIKI though!laugh
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Mar 24, 2011 5:04 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Do these phrases get abbreviated?

It strikes me, that like Cockney Rhyming Slang, the alternative takes longer to say than the original.

Road = frog and toad = I was going down the frog...

Mate = china plate = Alright, me old china?

Or are the alternatives easier to hear and distinguish in a noisy diner environment?
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Mar 24, 2011 5:07 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
jac379: Do these phrases get abbreviated?

It strikes me, that like Cockney Rhyming Slang, the alternative takes longer to say than the original.

Road = frog and toad = I was going down the frog...

Mate = china plate = Alright, me old china?

Or are the alternatives easier to hear and distinguish in a noisy diner environment?


My guess is it was partly for show, and partly to communicate by shouting without everyone in earshot understanding...by speaking in code. One of the uses of "86" listed in the Wiki link I posted is "don't serve that customer any more drinks."

wine
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Mar 24, 2011 5:13 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Dagosto: My guess is it was partly for show, and partly to communicate by shouting without everyone in earshot understanding...by speaking in code. One of the uses of "86" listed in the Wiki link I posted is "don't serve that customer any more drinks."


When we did not want anyone to know what we were saying. we'd use our own home brand of pidgin english

something like this:

'Mi hamamas long lukim yu' means 'I am happy to see you.'
wave
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Mar 24, 2011 5:21 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Merriweather: When we did not want anyone to know what we were saying. we'd use our own home brand of pidgin english

something like this:

'Mi hamamas long lukim yu' means 'I am happy to see you.'


I thought that, too.

If its a standard diner slang, its no longer code.

That's why the names for marujuana change with such regularity.
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Mar 24, 2011 5:38 AM CST Does anybody know or remember the old diner lingo?
exfaa
exfaaexfaamalaga, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 627 Posts
jac379: I thought that, too.

If its a standard diner slang, its no longer code.

That's why the names for marujuana change with such regularity.

is it LIKE J ARTHUR RANK rolling on the floor laughing
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