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Jul 18, 2011 12:36 PM CST Employer Trend
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
I had to google this because it sounded so outrageous it didn't seem that it could be true, but it is--Some employers are now actually posting in their "Help Wanted" advertisements "If you are currently unemployed you will not be considered", or "The unemployed need not apply". When questioned, the companies responded to the tune of, "we believe that if you are unemployed that that is a red flag, and so filter that out from the start", (or something like that). Another trend which many job seekers find objectionable is making application available only on line. (Even if the position has absolutely nothing to do with computers or even typing, for example). Not everybody lives in a "cyber" world, and personally, I believe it is discriminatory to demand that for consideration for a job. Besides, putting myself in the shoes of an employer, and I worked mid-management in fairly recent years, wouldn't you WANT to meet the person, read their own writing, get a well-rounded idea of just who you might be giving responsibility to? There is much more to a position than just filling out electronic data.
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Jul 18, 2011 12:40 PM CST Employer Trend
rohaan: I had to google this because it sounded so outrageous it didn't seem that it could be true, but it is--Some employers are now actually posting in their "Help Wanted" advertisements "If you are currently unemployed you will not be considered", or "The unemployed need not apply". When questioned, the companies responded to the tune of, "we believe that if you are unemployed that that is a red flag, and so filter that out from the start", (or something like that). Another trend which many job seekers find objectionable is making application available only on line. (Even if the position has absolutely nothing to do with computers or even typing, for example). Not everybody lives in a "cyber" world, and personally, I believe it is discriminatory to demand that for consideration for a job. Besides, putting myself in the shoes of an employer, and I worked mid-management in fairly recent years, wouldn't you WANT to meet the person, read their own writing, get a well-rounded idea of just who you might be giving responsibility to? There is much more to a position than just filling out electronic data.
Actualy All companies have thier own Employment Policies and they want others to follow them But it should give some relief to applicants wave wine handshake
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Jul 18, 2011 12:49 PM CST Employer Trend
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
rohaan: I had to google this because it sounded so outrageous it didn't seem that it could be true, but it is--Some employers are now actually posting in their "Help Wanted" advertisements "If you are currently unemployed you will not be considered", or "The unemployed need not apply". When questioned, the companies responded to the tune of, "we believe that if you are unemployed that that is a red flag, and so filter that out from the start", (or something like that). Another trend which many job seekers find objectionable is making application available only on line. (Even if the position has absolutely nothing to do with computers or even typing, for example). Not everybody lives in a "cyber" world, and personally, I believe it is discriminatory to demand that for consideration for a job. Besides, putting myself in the shoes of an employer, and I worked mid-management in fairly recent years, wouldn't you WANT to meet the person, read their own writing, get a well-rounded idea of just who you might be giving responsibility to? There is much more to a position than just filling out electronic data.


Isnt that discrimination? Surely, they are not allowed to put that. very mad
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Jul 18, 2011 1:04 PM CST Employer Trend
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
Bodecia: Isnt that discrimination? Surely, they are not allowed to put that.
The last I read (today) the EEOC and other government agencies are enacting rules prohibiting the use and practice of this, taking the working class' side - halleluia--and further, it will be an actionable cause if one is not hired because they are not working. This is the dumbest trend I ever heard of--what about people who leave the workforce to care for an ailing family member? What if one has just completed college, and is looking for their first professional position? How about the housewife/mother who suddenly finds herself a widow, and needs to be the breadwinner? There are just too many reasons for this to not be legal! It does look like our leadership is going to get on this one. Thanks for writing.thumbs up teddybear
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Jul 18, 2011 6:01 PM CST Employer Trend
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
So someone looking for work is a red flag?!wow


Wouldn't someone already employed and willing to jump ship on their current employers be a big red flag? Seems disloyal to me.That's not the type of employee I would want.Maybe it's just me though.dunno
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Jul 18, 2011 6:18 PM CST Employer Trend
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
rohaan: The last I read (today) the EEOC and other government agencies are enacting rules prohibiting the use and practice of this, taking the working class' side - halleluia--and further, it will be an actionable cause if one is not hired because they are not working. This is the dumbest trend I ever heard of--what about people who leave the workforce to care for an ailing family member? What if one has just completed college, and is looking for their first professional position? How about the housewife/mother who suddenly finds herself a widow, and needs to be the breadwinner? There are just too many reasons for this to not be legal! It does look like our leadership is going to get on this one. Thanks for writing.


One flaw with the law. All they have to do is write did not meet minimum requirement's and they get away with it. Cause we all know it's up to the accuser to prove the guilt not the defendant to prove their innocence.

Don't leave the workforce. Plain and simple. If you have a job best to keep it and deal with the ailing family member the best way possible and keep the job.


Again see # 1

I'm sure there are jobs for those that are just entering the workforce for the first time. There are entry level positions for all manner of education. Might have to flip burgers or something but hey a job is a job in this day and age.

cheers
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Jul 18, 2011 8:39 PM CST Employer Trend
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
rohaan: I had to google this because it sounded so outrageous it didn't seem that it could be true, but it is--Some employers are now actually posting in their "Help Wanted" advertisements "If you are currently unemployed you will not be considered", or "The unemployed need not apply". When questioned, the companies responded to the tune of, "we believe that if you are unemployed that that is a red flag, and so filter that out from the start", (or something like that). Another trend which many job seekers find objectionable is making application available only on line. (Even if the position has absolutely nothing to do with computers or even typing, for example). Not everybody lives in a "cyber" world, and personally, I believe it is discriminatory to demand that for consideration for a job. Besides, putting myself in the shoes of an employer, and I worked mid-management in fairly recent years, wouldn't you WANT to meet the person, read their own writing, get a well-rounded idea of just who you might be giving responsibility to? There is much more to a position than just filling out electronic data.



Sounds silly, but not everybody is unemployed by fault of their own.


SOUNDS LIKE A MOTIVATING COMPANY.



roll eyes

Theirs enough bulls.hitters,winers,and coplainers in this world...

not enough motivaters.

''The unemployed need not apply''

Has to be one of the stupidest things I've read in along time.
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Jul 19, 2011 12:16 PM CST Employer Trend
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
thewall2: Sounds silly, but not everybody is unemployed by fault of their own.SOUNDS LIKE A MOTIVATING COMPANY.


Theirs enough bulls.hitters,winers,and coplainers in this world...

not enough motivaters.

''The unemployed need not apply''

Has to be one of the stupidest things I've read in along time.
thumbs up Check this out, too, in all fairness, I'll give the other sides' reasoning (PLEASE! It does not mean this is the way I feel--just giving equal time--your comments are asked for!laugh

The employers stating that if one is unemployed they need not apply say that they are looking for the cream of the crop in their various fields, and adamantly believe that if you are in that top percentage you will not be out of work. They further argue that because of the numbers of unemployed, they would waste valuable man hours poring through endless stacks of resumes and applications. Their point being, "Since we are looking for the top candidates, then we are going to start at the top". I guess I understand this, but I still say I'm with the idea of stopping this practice, (if one really can. you can't change people's minds and hearts, you can only have policies to try and eliminate these sorts of things. JMO)
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Jul 19, 2011 2:47 PM CST Employer Trend
outdoorgirlsun
outdoorgirlsunoutdoorgirlsunSapulpa, Oklahoma USA5 Threads 1,085 Posts
Actractorguy: One flaw with the law. All they have to do is write did not meet minimum requirement's and they get away with it. Cause we all know it's up to the accuser to prove the guilt not the defendant to prove their innocence.

Don't leave the workforce. Plain and simple. If you have a job best to keep it and deal with the ailing family member the best way possible and keep the job. Again see # 1

I'm sure there are jobs for those that are just entering the workforce for the first time. There are entry level positions for all manner of education. Might have to flip burgers or something but hey a job is a job in this day and age.


This is very interesting. My daughter lived and worked in Las Vegas since Sept 2005. She had a college education, worked for a printing company. Due to cut backs(employee) and pay cuts, she just up and quit in December, 2010. By Feb 20, 2011, she was employed in L.A., moved and doing well.

So, I guess she didn't fall in this group?
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Jul 19, 2011 4:19 PM CST Employer Trend
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
rohaan: I had to google this because it sounded so outrageous it didn't seem that it could be true, but it is--Some employers are now actually posting in their "Help Wanted" advertisements "If you are currently unemployed you will not be considered", or "The unemployed need not apply". When questioned, the companies responded to the tune of, "we believe that if you are unemployed that that is a red flag, and so filter that out from the start", (or something like that). Another trend which many job seekers find objectionable is making application available only on line. (Even if the position has absolutely nothing to do with computers or even typing, for example). Not everybody lives in a "cyber" world, and personally, I believe it is discriminatory to demand that for consideration for a job. Besides, putting myself in the shoes of an employer, and I worked mid-management in fairly recent years, wouldn't you WANT to meet the person, read their own writing, get a well-rounded idea of just who you might be giving responsibility to? There is much more to a position than just filling out electronic data.


A red flag for what exactly?! dunno confused

Yes, discrimination, without any doubt.

cheers
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Jul 19, 2011 4:26 PM CST Employer Trend
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
outdoorgirlsun: This is very interesting. My daughter lived and worked in Las Vegas since Sept 2005. She had a college education, worked for a printing company. Due to cut backs(employee) and pay cuts, she just up and quit in December, 2010. By Feb 20, 2011, she was employed in L.A., moved and doing well.

So, I guess she didn't fall in this group?


One of the lucky ones.

cheers
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Jul 19, 2011 4:27 PM CST Employer Trend
Jeeepers
JeeepersJeeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)21 Threads 6,482 Posts
xxDandelionxx: Indeed!

Here, in the UK, it would be illegal to do so.

Hi ya, Jeeps
wave Hi. Yeah, this seems a bit far fetched, but if is coming from Mr.Rohaan you can bet your sweet patootie it's the truth ! cool
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Jul 19, 2011 4:39 PM CST Employer Trend
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
Jeeepers: Hi. Yeah, this seems a bit far fetched, but if is coming from Mr.Rohaan you can bet your sweet patootie it's the truth !


I don't doubt it but....

What is my "sweet patootie"?? dunno
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Jul 19, 2011 4:40 PM CST Employer Trend
Jeeepers
JeeepersJeeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)21 Threads 6,482 Posts
xxDandelionxx: I don't doubt it but....

What is my "sweet patootie"??
I'll have to tell you in private. wink
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Jul 19, 2011 5:13 PM CST Employer Trend
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
Actractorguy: One of the lucky ones.



Act!!...I am not commenting on your post, rather your pic!!!!...You look fabulous darling!!!yay
Just fabulous!!!banana banana banana

wave

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Jul 19, 2011 7:12 PM CST Employer Trend
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
The unemployed are the new class of 'EWWWWW'. We don't get call backs, we don't get told why we aren't eligible and our resumes go straight to the shredder.

Most of us try the new tricks of listing our involvement in volunteer work, college (if you attend) and 'dumbing down' our resumes.

Really doesn't work though; potential employers will call your last place of employment to find out your last day of work and then exclude you from their short-list.

Not only are more companies moving to online applications and submittals of resumes, they are also doing 'testing.' *snort* Try to do some of the tests for say example Taco Bell. You are timed on the answers and if you answer honestly, you get screened out....
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Jul 19, 2011 7:36 PM CST Employer Trend
Happygolucky4u
Happygolucky4uHappygolucky4uTreasure Coast, Florida USA25 Threads 4 Polls 6,241 Posts
rohaan: I had to google this because it sounded so outrageous it didn't seem that it could be true, but it is--Some employers are now actually posting in their "Help Wanted" advertisements "If you are currently unemployed you will not be considered", or "The unemployed need not apply". When questioned, the companies responded to the tune of, "we believe that if you are unemployed that that is a red flag, and so filter that out from the start", (or something like that). Another trend which many job seekers find objectionable is making application available only on line. (Even if the position has absolutely nothing to do with computers or even typing, for example). Not everybody lives in a "cyber" world, and personally, I believe it is discriminatory to demand that for consideration for a job. Besides, putting myself in the shoes of an employer, and I worked mid-management in fairly recent years, wouldn't you WANT to meet the person, read their own writing, get a well-rounded idea of just who you might be giving responsibility to? There is much more to a position than just filling out electronic data.
I heard of this quite some time back. And it makes no sense to me.dunno The online apps can be a pain in the tush. I know that when I was looking for a job and did the online apps it just did not give me that face to face moment that you can sometimes use to sell your self to a potential employer because online limits what you can say. I was actually still working when I got the job I have been at the last three years and they were cutting back our hours and I knew that would not work for me. I did turn in a two weeks notice I did not want to burn that bridge in case I ever wanted to go back. sigh
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Jul 19, 2011 9:49 PM CST Employer Trend
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
I will just use my cell phone as a contact number and use my land line as my present employer....of course I will get an outstanding reference as how much a valued and respected employee I am ....beer
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Jul 19, 2011 9:55 PM CST Employer Trend
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
leigh2154: Act!!...I am not commenting on your post, rather your pic!!!!...You look fabulous darling!!!
Just fabulous!!!


blushing tip hat

I do clean up fairly well don't I.

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

bouquet teddybear lips yay peace peace peace
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