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Odette, When I got back from Nam, I went to see the parents of someone I grew up with . I had heard he was in Nam and wanted to get in touch with him . I didn't know that he was waisted shortly before . When I saw his mother She was in tears about this . That I can understand, however she couldn't understand how I got back and Skip didn't . I think this hurt more than the tour did . It took me a long time and a lot of aimless self destruction to finally come to terms with it . I finally decided that I did indeed like myself and moved forward with my life . I can live with it now . I'm telling you this because comming home from another sensless war, is a new group of walking wounded . Don't make the same mistake with them .
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Frankinstien: Odette, When I got back from Nam, I went to see the parents of someone I grew up with . I had heard he was in Nam and wanted to get in touch with him . I didn't know that he was waisted shortly before . When I saw his mother She was in tears about this . That I can understand, however she couldn't understand how I got back and Skip didn't . I think this hurt more than the tour did . It took me a long time and a lot of aimless self destruction to finally come to terms with it . I finally decided that I did indeed like myself and moved forward with my life . I can live with it now . I'm telling you this because comming home from another sensless war, is a new group of walking wounded . Don't make the same mistake with them .
You were indeed one of the lucky one's, I just wish all these war's would end. Your dog look's like a sweetheart
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Odette67: You were indeed one of the lucky one's, I just wish all these war's would end. Your dog look's like a sweetheart
Thank you for the kind words, however I still wonder if I was one of the " lucky " ones .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .PS: my dog says " of course I am "!------ This thread is Archived ------
In response to: War is hell.
There is no aspect of war that is likeable for the soldier, for the supply workers, for the people in the war zone, for a country's national reputation, for its international reputation, for its internal policy, for its external policy.
War is hell indeed.
Except there are times when a nation has to wage a war.
Like the war on drugs, the war on crimes, the war on terrorism.
These are wars, too, not mere metaphors. People get shot, sons and daughters get mutilated and they lose their minds, mothers and fathers get hauled into jail. Sisters become hos and brothers become pushers. Sacred thoughts become reason for murder, and the holy are prayed to, begging them for help to make another human miserable.
Welcome to the show.
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There are many wounded warriors walking around on this earth.
There are also 22 American families who are making plans to go to Dover Air force Base to be there when their son's body comes home from the terrible tradegy that happened on Saturday...
There are also 22 American families who are making plans to go to Dover Air force Base to be there when their son's body comes home from the terrible tradegy that happened on Saturday...
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A Soldiers Christmas Poem!
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The other side was the Vietnam vets who protested in Washington and trashed their medals. Let's not forget the criminals who were in the Whitehouse at the time and Watergate.
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Godsgift: The other side was the Vietnam vets who protested in Washington and trashed their medals. Let's not forget the criminals who were in the Whitehouse at the time and Watergate.
Amem to that. But as long as criminals become leaders of any country, there is guaranteed war. Possibly it may be best not to have any so called 'leaders'...
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online today!odette a true story in the form of a poem. And you have written it with the beauty and grace of the lady you are. It does not really matter if one approves of war or not. Or even who is in the political ring. What you have done is to share someones life in the form of poetry. And that is an artist at work.
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It's a true story for the majority of men who came back from Vietnam. And it will be the same for those who are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan..........sadly, many will not come back...
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Never the ones who start a war, will pay for it. War is the best way to show who is the bigger idiot.
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My brother was shot in Nam....he made it home,but was changed mentally and Physically.
However he was sooooo lucky compared to so many.
And never before or since have our soldiers been treated as they were by so many.
For all that have served their country, no matter who or what country they served.
However he was sooooo lucky compared to so many.
And never before or since have our soldiers been treated as they were by so many.
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grizzwald: My brother was shot in Nam....he made it home,but was changed mentally and Physically.
However he was sooooo lucky compared to so many.
And never before or since have our soldiers been treated as they were by so many. For all that have served their country, no matter who or what country they served.
However he was sooooo lucky compared to so many.
And never before or since have our soldiers been treated as they were by so many. For all that have served their country, no matter who or what country they served.
I can attest to that Grizzy. On June 10, 1991 there was a parade in New York for the troops that came home from the Gulf War. The parade lasted about four hours with General Schwarzkopf, Colin Powell and other brass, troops from all branches of the military, machinery almost too big for the width of the road, flags on every building and in almost every hand, all on a street in New York City. I was there and I had the time of my life shouting, clapping and cheering on the men and women of the U.S.A. military..
I don't think I'll see a parade like that for the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan because they are coming home a few at a time OR in body bags...
However, this time the troops are respected and that, for me, is what is most important...
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I was in basic training with a black kid , short , skinny , and one of the sweetest kids you"d ever want to meet . When his name was called it was Nam , I got lucky and went to Germany . I tried to track him down in Chicago on my trips to the east coast with no luck . Finally ten years after Nam ended I found him . As we talked on the phone I could tell that sweet young kid was gone . We talked for awhile but I couldn"t convince him to meet with me . Finally as we spoke our last words he told me he wanted me to remember the way he was and not see what he had become . Even after all these years I still miss you Bobby , and I hope time has been good to you and has helped you find peace !! I"d like to also send a blessing to my late brother-in-law who survived Hamburger Hill , and 18 years in the Illinois coal mines only to die of a stroke !!
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Brad Paisley;Alison Krauss - Whiskey Lullaby
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In response to: Tommy was a country boy, his little world revolved
Around a small farm in Tennessee
Soon the big bad world came a calling on him
To go fight for his country, to be free.
His Ma and Pa went to see him off, he was their only
Son, he stood so proud, so tall, if he was scared, they couldn't tell
Pa stood ramrod straight, his arm round the gentle Mother
Of his beloved Son, a Son he was sure was going into hell.
Tommy thought how small Ma and Pa looked, with a sudden urge
He hugged them both to him, no words were spoken
Pa coughed, Ma sniffed, in her silent thoughts she was thinking
"My baby, my beautiful baby, how grown he is." Now he was being taken.
Tommy had never been in a helicopter in his life, it was fun, he
Thought, he tried to block out the silent stare in Ma's eyes
When he had to leave them. A lump was in his throat, he lay
Back and closed his eyes, all around him he could hear muffled cries.
His best buddy from kindergarten, Jefferson was by his side
Never in all their lives had they been this quiet
They were going into unknown pastures, leaving their comfort
Zone behind, through parched lips, Jefferson whispered "Dubonnet".
With a thud the copter landed, tired thirsty men jumped out into
A hell hole, guns firing every which way, bombs screaming.
Tommy lay sprawled in the stinking mud, he saw Jefferson dying
In front of him, his insides spilling out, he thought he was dreaming.
Tommy went to hell and back in the next few years, poor Jefferson never
Did get his Dubonnet. Tommy survived in body, though not in mind,
When he was back home in the country he loved, walking down the street was spat at by his own country men. His skin resembled orange rind.
He went to Vietnam a young handsome man, he came out looking gaunt
And old. His Ma fell to her knees when she saw him, Pa stood frozen.
Tommy went down on his knees to hold his poor Ma, rocking her back and forth
He knew life would never be the same, his dear Ma and Pa looked so wizen.
This is a true story, told to me by a Vietnam Vet, who was there.
Around a small farm in Tennessee
Soon the big bad world came a calling on him
To go fight for his country, to be free.
His Ma and Pa went to see him off, he was their only
Son, he stood so proud, so tall, if he was scared, they couldn't tell
Pa stood ramrod straight, his arm round the gentle Mother
Of his beloved Son, a Son he was sure was going into hell.
Tommy thought how small Ma and Pa looked, with a sudden urge
He hugged them both to him, no words were spoken
Pa coughed, Ma sniffed, in her silent thoughts she was thinking
"My baby, my beautiful baby, how grown he is." Now he was being taken.
Tommy had never been in a helicopter in his life, it was fun, he
Thought, he tried to block out the silent stare in Ma's eyes
When he had to leave them. A lump was in his throat, he lay
Back and closed his eyes, all around him he could hear muffled cries.
His best buddy from kindergarten, Jefferson was by his side
Never in all their lives had they been this quiet
They were going into unknown pastures, leaving their comfort
Zone behind, through parched lips, Jefferson whispered "Dubonnet".
With a thud the copter landed, tired thirsty men jumped out into
A hell hole, guns firing every which way, bombs screaming.
Tommy lay sprawled in the stinking mud, he saw Jefferson dying
In front of him, his insides spilling out, he thought he was dreaming.
Tommy went to hell and back in the next few years, poor Jefferson never
Did get his Dubonnet. Tommy survived in body, though not in mind,
When he was back home in the country he loved, walking down the street was spat at by his own country men. His skin resembled orange rind.
He went to Vietnam a young handsome man, he came out looking gaunt
And old. His Ma fell to her knees when she saw him, Pa stood frozen.
Tommy went down on his knees to hold his poor Ma, rocking her back and forth
He knew life would never be the same, his dear Ma and Pa looked so wizen.
This is a true story, told to me by a Vietnam Vet, who was there.
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Godsgift: The other side was the Vietnam vets who protested in Washington and trashed their medals. Let's not forget the criminals who were in the Whitehouse at the time and Watergate.
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Godsgift: The other side was the Vietnam vets who protested in Washington and trashed their medals. Let's not forget the criminals who were in the Whitehouse at the time and Watergate.
President Nixon brought the troops home from Viet Nam. So he did do something good. He was just stupid in the Watergate thing, very stupid.
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.....no one spat upon vietnam vets- that is just a myth.......but it was a senseless war- like iraq......a war designed to make billions for dow chemical, remington, colt, etc........the vietnam years were very, very troubling.......for america and for the tiny country that we invaded.....if it were not for the bravery of jane fonda and her anti-war message, tens of thousands of additional people would have been slaughtered......along with sympathy for tommy- one might ponder upon how many women and kids he killed or mutilated with the infamous rock and roll machine gun greeting upon entering peasant villages.......
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Around a small farm in Tennessee
Soon the big bad world came a calling on him
To go fight for his country, to be free.
His Ma and Pa went to see him off, he was their only
Son, he stood so proud, so tall, if he was scared, they couldn't tell
Pa stood ramrod straight, his arm round the gentle Mother
Of his beloved Son, a Son he was sure was going into hell.
Tommy thought how small Ma and Pa looked, with a sudden urge
He hugged them both to him, no words were spoken
Pa coughed, Ma sniffed, in her silent thoughts she was thinking
"My baby, my beautiful baby, how grown he is." Now he was being taken.
Tommy had never been in a helicopter in his life, it was fun, he
Thought, he tried to block out the silent stare in Ma's eyes
When he had to leave them. A lump was in his throat, he lay
Back and closed his eyes, all around him he could hear muffled cries.
His best buddy from kindergarten, Jefferson was by his side
Never in all their lives had they been this quiet
They were going into unknown pastures, leaving their comfort
Zone behind, through parched lips, Jefferson whispered "Dubonnet".
With a thud the copter landed, tired thirsty men jumped out into
A hell hole, guns firing every which way, bombs screaming.
Tommy lay sprawled in the stinking mud, he saw Jefferson dying
In front of him, his insides spilling out, he thought he was dreaming.
Tommy went to hell and back in the next few years, poor Jefferson never
Did get his Dubonnet. Tommy survived in body, though not in mind,
When he was back home in the country he loved, walking down the street was spat at by his own country men. His skin resembled orange rind.
He went to Vietnam a young handsome man, he came out looking gaunt
And old. His Ma fell to her knees when she saw him, Pa stood frozen.
Tommy went down on his knees to hold his poor Ma, rocking her back and forth
He knew life would never be the same, his dear Ma and Pa looked so wizen.
This is a true story, told to me by a Vietnam Vet, who was there.