I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THOSE WHO SERVE AND SERVED IN THE NAME OF PEACE (56)
Excellent thread !!!
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marss: thank you all for your service to peace...and a salute to those that died trying...
i have 7 step brothers that served one real brother and my father....there is not enough thanks we can give to those gallant people but a little thanks goes a long way...thanks to those around the world that strive for peace...
i have 7 step brothers that served one real brother and my father....there is not enough thanks we can give to those gallant people but a little thanks goes a long way...thanks to those around the world that strive for peace...
Sorry to piss on your parade but countries who strive for peace don't have armies or at least they don't make and sell weapons to the highest bidder ...
But I will join you on the thanking those around the world who strive for peace.
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EagleWoman: Sorry to piss on your parade but countries who strive for peace don't have armies or at least they don't make and sell weapons to the highest bidder ... But I will join you on the thanking those around the world who strive for peace.
By the way I meant no disrespect to those who served and died while "defending their country and/or protecting others", I believe they did so in good faith.
My comment was meant towards the governments who "con" young men into enlisting "for their country" then send them on wars that have nothing to do with peace or defending their country and everything to do with financial gain.
Wars are not very often about peace. Just my opinion.
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I served about 50 years ago,but it sure as hell was not for peace.
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EagleWoman: By the way I meant no disrespect to those who served and died while "defending their country and/or protecting others", I believe they did so in good faith.
My comment was meant towards the governments who "con" young men into enlisting "for their country" then send them on wars that have nothing to do with peace or defending their country and everything to do with financial gain.
Wars are not very often about peace. Just my opinion.
My comment was meant towards the governments who "con" young men into enlisting "for their country" then send them on wars that have nothing to do with peace or defending their country and everything to do with financial gain.
Wars are not very often about peace. Just my opinion.
This can't be directed at the USA. We have volunteer women soldiers too. And most folks in the reserve USA military have college degrees and are even doctors, nurses, engineers etc. They are not zombies.
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galrads: This can't be directed at the USA. We have volunteer women soldiers too. And most folks in the reserve USA military have college degrees and are even doctors, nurses, engineers etc. They are not zombies.
I didn't say they were zombies or stupid ... read my post again ...
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good soldiers only follow orders....without question..........
they commit.countries without soldiers have more problems i would think...in fact are there countries without military?
they commit.countries without soldiers have more problems i would think...in fact are there countries without military?
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marss: good soldiers only follow orders....without question..........
they commit.countries without soldiers have more problems i would think...in fact are there countries without military?
they commit.countries without soldiers have more problems i would think...in fact are there countries without military?
I understand that soldiers follow orders without question ... and I would suggest also in good faith. I don't think governments however, are worthy of such faith.
From Wiki: Operating from a neutral country, Switzerland's army does not take part in armed conflicts in other countries. However, over the years, the Swiss army has been part of several peacekeeping missions around the world.
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EagleWoman: I understand that soldiers follow orders without question ... and I would suggest also in good faith. I don't think governments however, are worthy of such faith.
From Wiki: Operating from a neutral country, Switzerland's army does not take part in armed conflicts in other countries. However, over the years, the Swiss army has been part of several peacekeeping missions around the world.
From Wiki: Operating from a neutral country, Switzerland's army does not take part in armed conflicts in other countries. However, over the years, the Swiss army has been part of several peacekeeping missions around the world.
Tried my best to stay out of this one...I served for 22 years...And the statement about the Swiss Army made me laugh my socks off...
Peace keeping missions and Armed conflict are far to often the same thing......
Let's think about it
Kosovo.....Peace keeping
Korea....Peace Keeping and also "a police action"
Cyprus .....Peace Keeping....
Congo.......Peace Keeping....
In common ?
They all had ARMED conflict.....Slightly mixed up statement Eagle, sorry but all peacekeeping missions involve arms nd sadly far to often deaths...So you statement is not really valid....
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There is a lot more of piecekeeking than peacekeeping in this world, especially by the one arrogant enough to call itself The New World Order...(should really be ordure). Taking a piece here and there rather than helping any countries settle their cnflicts peacefully through negotiations without resorting to armed conflict. If armed conflicy simply cannot be avoided, then it really should be leader against leader and leave the countries people out of it all. If not, perhaps in the case of one population actually wanting war, then all others should simply bomb them back to that proverbial 'stone age'. Perhaps then there will no longer be any around to call itself The New World Order...and everyone on this planet can rest easy and get on with their lives.
Personally, I would like to see ALL armies reduced to those of Andorra and San Marino...hell, their SWAT teams carry crossbows! Nice...
Look them up...
Personally, I would like to see ALL armies reduced to those of Andorra and San Marino...hell, their SWAT teams carry crossbows! Nice...
Look them up...
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EagleWoman: Sorry to piss on your parade but countries who strive for peace don't have armies or at least they don't make and sell weapons to the highest bidder ... But I will join you on the thanking those around the world who strive for peace.
I'm with you Eagle Woman.
To me, serving in the name of Peace means standing up against war and the evil behind it.
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solitare: ... If armed conflict simply cannot be avoided, then it really should be leader against leader and leave the countries people out of it all.
Sure would save a lot of money and bloodshed.
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patmac: Tried my best to stay out of this one...I served for 22 years...And the statement about the Swiss Army made me laugh my socks off...
Peace keeping missions and Armed conflict are far to often the same thing......
Let's think about it
Kosovo.....Peace keeping
Korea....Peace Keeping and also "a police action"
Cyprus .....Peace Keeping....
Congo.......Peace Keeping....In common ?
They all had ARMED conflict.....Slightly mixed up statement Eagle, sorry but all peacekeeping missions involve arms nd sadly far to
often deaths...So you statement is not really valid....
Peace keeping missions and Armed conflict are far to often the same thing......
Let's think about it
Kosovo.....Peace keeping
Korea....Peace Keeping and also "a police action"
Cyprus .....Peace Keeping....
Congo.......Peace Keeping....In common ?
They all had ARMED conflict.....Slightly mixed up statement Eagle, sorry but all peacekeeping missions involve arms nd sadly far to
often deaths...So you statement is not really valid....
Well Wiki need to be told!!!! lol!!!
You're preaching to the converted here. Read the first sentence of my post.
The rest is directly from Wiki about the Swiss and obviously the link ....
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marss: good soldiers only follow orders....without question..........
countries without soldiers have more problems i would think...in fact are there countries without military?
countries without soldiers have more problems i would think...in fact are there countries without military?
In my opinion a "good soldier" who "follows orders without question"
has lost a basic part of his humanity.
The right and obligation to decide and do what is right.
I feel pity for people in that situation.
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RayfromUSA: In my opinion a "good soldier" who "follows orders without question"
has lost a basic part of his humanity.
The right and obligation to decide and do what is right.
I feel pity for people in that situation.
I can tell you oviously have never been in one ! You are right about loosing your humanity but if you actually knew from experience what you where talking about I doubt you would have said this .has lost a basic part of his humanity.
The right and obligation to decide and do what is right.
I feel pity for people in that situation.
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EagleWoman: By the way I meant no disrespect to those who served and died while "defending their country and/or protecting others", I believe they did so in good faith.
My comment was meant towards the governments who "con" young men into enlisting "for their country" then send them on wars that have nothing to do with peace or defending their country and everything to do with financial gain.
Wars are not very often about peace. Just my opinion.
Dear Eaglewoman, Wars are never about peace . But you are right about the other things .My comment was meant towards the governments who "con" young men into enlisting "for their country" then send them on wars that have nothing to do with peace or defending their country and everything to do with financial gain.
Wars are not very often about peace. Just my opinion.
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cant you all leave something at face value?
this was a thanks not a debate...soldiers make choices be damnglad they do..i am all about peace and never served myself but i can imagine the hell they go thru...i appreciate what they and i believe an army is nessecary for what ever reason...i do agree they are used by governments but thats our fault as well...so once again without question thanks...
this was a thanks not a debate...soldiers make choices be damnglad they do..i am all about peace and never served myself but i can imagine the hell they go thru...i appreciate what they and i believe an army is nessecary for what ever reason...i do agree they are used by governments but thats our fault as well...so once again without question thanks...
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RayfromUSA: In my opinion a "good soldier" who "follows orders without question"
has lost a basic part of his humanity.
The right and obligation to decide and do what is right.
I feel pity for people in that situation.
has lost a basic part of his humanity.
The right and obligation to decide and do what is right.
I feel pity for people in that situation.
Reminds me of the words from one of my favourite songs...
"You can lead a horse to water,
but you're never going to make it drink.
And you can lead a man to slaughter,
but you're never going to make him think."
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marss: cant you all leave something at face value?
this was a thanks not a debate...soldiers make choices be damnglad they do..i am all about peace and never served myself but i can imagine the hell they go thru...i appreciate what they and i believe an army is nessecary for what ever reason...i do agree they are used by governments but thats our fault as well...so once again without question thanks...
this was a thanks not a debate...soldiers make choices be damnglad they do..i am all about peace and never served myself but i can imagine the hell they go thru...i appreciate what they and i believe an army is nessecary for what ever reason...i do agree they are used by governments but thats our fault as well...so once again without question thanks...
I watched this Forum from the start .
Didnt realy want to comment as lots of folks have different opinions about War.. And its after effects on individuals who participate Positive and Negative .
I dont myself understand to much about Politics {nor do Politicians } its some sort of personal ego thing i think .
But me personaly do respect those at the moment in Foriegn Fields ,, and those who have given there life under there Flag .
And not forgetting those young lives that have come home with loss of limbs ,, and also those who have been mentaly Traumatised ..
Respect .
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i have 7 step brothers that served one real brother and my father....there is not enough thanks we can give to those gallant people but a little thanks goes a long way...thanks to those around the world that strive for peace...