AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
maxmate1: Notwithstanding your crap example, At least you agree that if "wrong" is committed by the "majority" or the powerful or the popular, it does not become "right"?
So true. That said, as intelligent beings who can reason and record what occurred prior to the action we can also determine if the action was right, wrong or, the best of a poor lot of decisions that was made.
Albertaghost: Wow. The only guy on the thread other than Ray who hasn't read all the refuting evidence about how it wasn't a conspiracy. And all it takes is one simple question ;
why would thousands of co conspirators risk lethal injection by being discovered and leave WTC7 smoldering for so long when they could have just blown it up along with the other buildings?
It is actually very simple albert. every criminal, even after using their best efforts, leaves some 'clues/trails' behind while doing his/her dirty works. And the police uses those 'clues' to capture the culprits. But the only difference in the case of your so-called 'co-conspirators' is that they very well knew that nobody would care to find of capture them no matter how many clues they left behind.
mnowsa: It is actually very simple albert. every criminal, even after using their best efforts, leaves some 'clues/trails' behind while doing his/her dirty works. And the police uses those 'clues' to capture the culprits. But the only difference in the case of your so-called 'co-conspirators' is that they very well knew that nobody would care to find of capture them no matter how many clues they left behind.
i mean why would the 'real culprits' worry about clues and getting caught when decisions were already made to blame 'muslim terrorists' for the actions in 9/11?
Conrad73: yep,a Conspiracy that involves tens of thousands,yet nobody cracked! Get real,mister!
If the numbers were really in tens of thousands, then it was not a conspiracy anymore......it rather became a 'policy'. And call it a conspiracy or a policy, it doesn't really make any difference as long as the 'target' is achieved.
mnowsa: If the numbers were really in tens of thousands, then it was not a conspiracy anymore......it rather became a 'policy'. And call it a conspiracy or a policy, it doesn't really make any difference as long as the 'target' is achieved.
you just don't get it,do you? Three Persons executed the whole thing!
Feb 3, 2012 5:49 AM CST Ask yourself this question. Who benefitted most from 9/11?
TaotehChingsydney, New South Wales Australia150 Posts
TaotehChingsydney, New South Wales Australia150 posts
Albertaghost: In America anybody can gain power and influence whereas in the more corrupt portions of the world such as Bangladesh, Pakistan, Palestine, Israel, Russia, China, Somalia, Syria, Indonesia, and countless other countries where freedom does not even come close to what it does in America people are stuck where they are.
If I were you I would seriously consider calling it the non 'American Mindset' if you wish to be accurate to any degree.
Now im going to eat. Think about it.
No, not anyone. When you get too close to the power source and try to manipulate it or challenge it for whatever your intentions.....watch out! I will come back with her name, as you Albert have mentioned you need proofs. Also, the reason people have become stuck and lacking freedoms in other parts of the world is broadly a replication of the American mindset, that is, to oppress the masses, and have them believe they are not ie. gross moral freedoms in US coupled with the religious cult of consumerism and wealth production, religious oppression in Israel as well as the oppression of religious dogmas, the oppression of tyranny in Somalia, Syria, Bangladesh and Pakistan, the oppression of autocracy in Russia, the oppression of the foreigner and displaced in Palestine, the oppression of Communism in China. In most of these cases oppression is visibly enforced by governments and hence the stirrings of rebellion in these countries. Not so for AMerica. Its oppressiveness is hidden and of the dangerous sort, that is, wiping out peoples awareness and reaction to it through complex psychological processes that rewire a person's expectations and sensitivities to its own personal makeup. ie. designing/recreating a common breed of humanity. In this respect, these peoples are the most 'stuck' of all since they have no awareness of the oppression upon them. They are like the regimes eunuchs!
Feb 3, 2012 6:40 AM CST Ask yourself this question. Who benefitted most from 9/11?
TaotehChingsydney, New South Wales Australia150 Posts
TaotehChingsydney, New South Wales Australia150 posts
mnowsa: Franklin D. Roosevelt once said,"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." 9/11 didn't happen by 'accident'....it was planned that way as well.
Mr Naik said US officials told him of the plan at a UN-sponsored international contact group on Afghanistan which took place in Berlin. Mr Naik told the BBC that at the meeting the US representatives told him that unless Bin Laden was handed over swiftly America would take military action to kill or capture both Bin Laden and the Taleban leader, Mullah Omar.
The wider objective, according to Mr Naik, would be to topple the Taleban regime and install a transitional government of moderate Afghans in its place - possibly under the leadership of the former Afghan King Zahir Shah. Mr Naik was told that Washington would launch its operation from bases in Tajikistan, where American advisers were already in place.
He was told that Uzbekistan would also participate in the operation and that 17,000 Russian troops were on standby. Mr Naik was told that if the military action went ahead it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.
He said that he was in no doubt that after the World Trade Center bombings this pre-existing US plan had been built upon and would be implemented within two or three weeks. And he said it was doubtful that Washington would drop its plan even if Bin Laden were to be surrendered immediately by the Taleban.
MSNBC - Afghanistan war plans were on Bush's desk on 9/9/2001
President Bush was expected to sign detailed plans for a worldwide war against al-Qaida two days before Sept. 11 but did not have the chance before the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, U.S. and foreign sources told NBC News. ... The plan dealt with all aspects of a war against al-Qaida, ranging from diplomatic initiatives to military operations in Afghanistan, the sources said on condition of anonymity.
"To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11." Tony Blair. July 17, 2002
So here we can see that in the summer of 2001, while the American media kept the people distracted with "All Condit All The Time", the US Government was informing other governments that they would be at war in Afghanistan no later than October. Ahhhh....then comes 9/11, a convenient "terrorist" attack, to anger Americans into support for an invasion. Co-incident? perhaps not.
hmmmm... more like 'convenience' than 'coincidence'. It seems only natural that the US wanted to oust the Taliban - with its strong Islamic sentiments and US resistance- and replace it with an interim government of warlords, handpicked by US officials (easy to control their own dummies). So these warlords rule, with US backing, and they are ruthless and destructive, not to mention incapable of building any type of long-reaching civilised society. Oh! they are also not Islamic extremists, another tick in the box for US motivations ie. to wipe out all religions, and build an atheist empire, where the masses are under a dangerous and sinister band of highly intelligent soul-stripping power-mongers that reduce humanity to a mindless mass. The warlords are just a temporary fixture to achieving this plan. They might be ruthless but they are stupid and easily wiped out. So the US steps in and annihilates them when the time is right, takes over with its own kind and POOF! we have the workings of one huge evil takeover, and uniform man with no escape because all your friends, your family, your community, your husband, your kids, are swept into the lie.You look them in the eye and they have no soul ......................... imagine....... no way out!
TaotehChing: hmmmm... more like 'convenience' than 'coincidence'. It seems only natural that the US wanted to oust the Taliban - with its strong Islamic sentiments and US resistance- and replace it with an interim government of warlords, handpicked by US officials (easy to control their own dummies). So these warlords rule, with US backing, and they are ruthless and destructive, not to mention incapable of building any type of long-reaching civilised society. Oh! they are also not Islamic extremists, another tick in the box for US motivations ie. to wipe out all religions, and build an atheist empire, where the masses are under a dangerous and sinister band of highly intelligent soul-stripping power-mongers that reduce humanity to a mindless mass. The warlords are just a temporary fixture to achieving this plan. They might be ruthless but they are stupid and easily wiped out. So the US steps in and annihilates them when the time is right, takes over with its own kind and POOF! we have the workings of one huge evil takeover, and uniform man with no escape because all your friends, your family, your community, your husband, your kids, are swept into the lie.You look them in the eye and they have no soul ......................... imagine....... no way out!
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So true. That said, as intelligent beings who can reason and record what occurred prior to the action we can also determine if the action was right, wrong or, the best of a poor lot of decisions that was made.