Do you change? ( Archived) (36)

Nov 12, 2006 1:26 PM CST Do you change?
Serenity1971
Serenity1971Serenity1971Serenity's Island, New York USA81 Threads 2 Polls 3,815 Posts
When you're in a relationship with someone, do you change who you are in order to make the other person happy? Do you find a way to compromise with the other person so that there's a give and take? Do you expect the other person to change in order to fit your wants or needs?

conversing conversing conversing
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Nov 12, 2006 1:36 PM CST Do you change?
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
I don't change "who" I am for anybody, but myself.


Compromise is overrated,

it's too closely related to sacrifice,

and sacrifice is the basis for entitlement,

which manifest itself as expectation.


I do what I want to do,

she does what she wants to do,

and if we get along, that's great.


The key is knowing your wants.
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Nov 12, 2006 1:39 PM CST Do you change?
blancalatina
blancalatinablancalatinawinston-salem, USA42 Threads 3,315 Posts
To "change" is ridiculous. It takes away from who we are. There are always things in a relationship that you can "compromise" on, and possibly "change" but not to ve-vamp your life for someone. If it's something minor and you both talk about it as it's comfortable...fine.
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Nov 12, 2006 1:40 PM CST Do you change?
keith_male
keith_malekeith_maleFraser Lake, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 370 Posts
I did, in several relationships....I ran across a definetion of "Co dependency".....Reactive submission....

I was codependent for decades and very much in denial about it.....

Now I accept others as they are and expect that acceptance in return....grin
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Nov 12, 2006 1:41 PM CST Do you change?
PanthersKiss
PanthersKissPanthersKissMiddlesex County, Massachusetts USA28 Threads 967 Posts
I personaly believe that as the relationship developes, one may see things in the other that are not likable to us, but do I expect that person to change?

That would depend on how serious the matter is, is it something that affects me emotionaly, I would expect him to show consideration.
A lack of consideration, would escalate to may the hurt even deeper, where damage is done beyond repair.

If it's something external, sometimes people should compromise, but not to make the other happy, they have to find that themselves.

I would compromise because it show the other person that I value them, and would like them to continue being in my life.

I do not think it's fair to expect 100% percent change, but to have the person understand, that improvements need to be made.



angel Angel
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Nov 12, 2006 1:43 PM CST Do you change?
jasflint
jasflintjasflintcollins, Georgia USA50 Threads 1,085 Posts
I work on compromise and am willing to change some things...I am not set in stone and have an awful lot to learn...my core values however are unalterable.professor
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Nov 12, 2006 1:44 PM CST Do you change?
i believe u have to compromise to a point ,but don't lose who you are in the processcomfort
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Nov 12, 2006 1:48 PM CST Do you change?
Katine76
Katine76Katine76Moncton, Canada145 Threads 4,516 Posts
Nope. And I wouldn't expect the other person to change for me either. When I am with someone. I with them for who they are. I fell in love with them inside and out. And I wouldn't want the person to expect me to change either.

I think that as long as neither one of us is hurting anyone or ourselves then why change?
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Nov 12, 2006 1:52 PM CST Do you change?
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
I wouldn't ever change to make the other person happy - if I did, I wouldn't be 'me' or how I was when she met me, with my traits, etc. I don't ever expect her to change either, it's not fair in any respect. That being said, compromise and understanding with plenty of heart-felt discussion can get you over any hurdles you may run across.

My .02

Rich
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Nov 12, 2006 1:53 PM CST Do you change?
fabs_4000
fabs_4000fabs_4000White Rock, British Columbia Canada44 Threads 2,381 Posts
what he said
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Nov 12, 2006 2:03 PM CST Do you change?
Serenity1971
Serenity1971Serenity1971Serenity's Island, New York USA81 Threads 2 Polls 3,815 Posts
This may sound kind of selfish, but...

The most important relationship is the one I have with myself. If I'm going to change it's for self improvement, not because someone else wants me to. I will compromise, but not at the expense of my values beliefs or me as a person. I don't expect a person to change in order to suit me, we either accept each other as we are or not, and if not there can be no relationship. I will however point out to the person I am in the relationship with if it's not going to work, why it's not going to work for me. I don't want someone that is going to compromise themselves for me either.
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Nov 12, 2006 2:09 PM CST Do you change?
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
Change is something that we may always count on my dear.

I never place unrealistic expectations of changing a person to fit my needs when I enter a relationship. If that is not who the person is, those changes would only then probably be temporary.

Usually, the change is only temporary.

Few things in life really frighten people, change is sometimes one of the most feared.

If we feel the need to enter into a relationship by changing the other, something should send a signal to stop.
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Nov 12, 2006 2:11 PM CST Do you change?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
I yam who I yam, but without the Popeye arms.
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Nov 12, 2006 4:19 PM CST Do you change?
Serenity1971
Serenity1971Serenity1971Serenity's Island, New York USA81 Threads 2 Polls 3,815 Posts
After seeing all the responses, I think it all comes down to one word...Expectations

If we keep are expectations low or out of the picture all together, we aren't disappointed. Accept ourselves for who we are and accept others for who they are.

grin
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Nov 12, 2006 4:38 PM CST Do you change?
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
lets see I do not sit at home waiting for a relationship to occur, and I do not sit at home and twiddle my thumbs because I do not have a "better half" to enjoy lifes many simple pleasures with, Oh yeah, I still enjoy life,but theres a space in my heart thats always available for when my betterhalf comes along, however as for time... I would have to change to accomdate my new Major addition to my life. change hell I would have to by a new calender and reorganize my time to spend any quality time or quantity, if your life is enpty then of course no changes would be called for or needed. When you have a life lacking something it ususlly is something that needs to be filled within

So yeah, there would be changes, and heres the kicker i am looking forward to the change, and even those I spend alot of time with currently would not feel bad about it.
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Nov 12, 2006 4:44 PM CST Do you change?
Deianeira
DeianeiraDeianeiraAztec, New Mexico USA2 Threads 221 Posts
Once again, eloquently stated!! As I nod and think yeah, yeah, what he said ;)thumbs up
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Nov 14, 2006 12:05 AM CST Do you change?
RenoPat
RenoPatRenoPatValley of the Sun, Arizona USA11 Threads 665 Posts
The "most" important relationship I have is with HP..wink
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Nov 14, 2006 10:10 AM CST Do you change?
earlyman
earlymanearlymanrichmond, Missouri USA2 Posts
i believe you have to compromise without abondoning your core values:
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Nov 14, 2006 10:19 AM CST Do you change?
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
I have most definately changed in relationships. Some for the better and some for the worse. Usually it is for the good, because there is compromise in all relationships. But, I have also changed who I was, because he wanted certain behaviors, such as the way I act in public and many other things that actually made up who I am. Only to be told I wasn't the same person. Well, duh. I had been complaining the whole time that I did not know myself his way. It did become our downfall as a couple. I left and took myself back and enjoy who I am once again.
Katcheers
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Nov 14, 2006 10:21 AM CST Do you change?
I don't/won't change, but I do try to be more compromising. Not an easy thing to do when you're older and quite set in your ways. For example, in my house, the TV remote is MINE ...mine mine MINE, I tell ya!

Easy compromise for that, though. Two TVs with separate remotes in separate rooms...dunno so what's the big deal?

No, I don't expect the person to change to fit my wants and needs; I try to ascertain that he is going to be a person whose wants and needs pretty much echo my own, though. Complete opposites do not for a good relationship make, IMO.

Like, I am not a meticulous housekeeper, but I'm neat and organized. No way could I or would I live with a slob. Would drive me nuts.
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