why GOD allows human suffering (48)
Because we need it, to some extend
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Godsgift: It's like one of these viruses on the internet. Create a problem and sell you the solution. God creates a moral dilemma in you and then sells you redemption....the price....just your eternal soul and 10% of your salary to the church. We're told he gives you free will but try and use it.....then you'll burn in hell forever.
Very true, tell the people who are starving or homeless about free will, wonder what they'd say of it. I'm sure I'll be told soon enough that I am to be dammed for all eternity
Or that I'd better find god soon before it's too late.
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stringman: this may explain it.
I think it's bull.
I believe God made the universe, then made us and gave us free will and there ends his involvement. The will to chose to be good and help others or be evil to take from others. We also have the choice to live in earthquake or flood prone areas or move to safer places.
In the end, he chooses whom he welcomes into heaven and from what I understand they are those who have helped others rather than taken from them.
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Albertaghost: I think it's bull.
I believe God made the universe, then made us and gave us free will and there ends his involvement. The will to chose to be good and help others or be evil to take from others. We also have the choice to live in earthquake or flood prone areas or move to safer places.
In the end, he chooses whom he welcomes into heaven and from what I understand they are those who have helped others rather than taken from them.
We do?? I think you will find that people who live in countries were there are threats of earthquakes etc, or are starving because of lack of water/resources for them to grow crops, or there country is torn apart by war, hardly have the opportunity to up sticks and leave the country. jmoI believe God made the universe, then made us and gave us free will and there ends his involvement. The will to chose to be good and help others or be evil to take from others. We also have the choice to live in earthquake or flood prone areas or move to safer places.
In the end, he chooses whom he welcomes into heaven and from what I understand they are those who have helped others rather than taken from them.
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Albertaghost: I think it's bull.
I believe God made the universe, then made us and gave us free will and there ends his involvement. The will to chose to be good and help others or be evil to take from others. We also have the choice to live in earthquake or flood prone areas or move to safer places.
In the end, he chooses whom he welcomes into heaven and from what I understand they are those who have helped others rather than taken from them.
I believe God made the universe, then made us and gave us free will and there ends his involvement. The will to chose to be good and help others or be evil to take from others. We also have the choice to live in earthquake or flood prone areas or move to safer places.
In the end, he chooses whom he welcomes into heaven and from what I understand they are those who have helped others rather than taken from them.
you are right GOD did make the universe and us. yes he is pleased that we do good and help others. but if you do not believe in HIM and believe HE is your lord and saviour,all is lost.GOD says this is the way it is suppost to be that is the way it is suppost to be.lets face it man has turned away from GOD and gone his own way, not working out is it.IMP.
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Study determinism. You might just get a better idea of life than the fodder of fundy nonsense; but then determinism includes fundy nonsense. 
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Right...because of God made freewill 'free' for mankind...it started from Genesis...althroughout the book of old testament, it depicted God as God of war, God of judges...
Im currently reading Mere Christianity by CS Lewis who was a former atheist.
''And free will is what has made evil
possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.''
I do think its because of freewill that made human do evil things... I say God is fair because he know man is a rational being capable of thinking...so he gave us freewill. Because without it, we wouldnt progress...its just that, men are oftentimes rebellious. We tend to do things our own way. We say we dont need God, because for us we are capable of ourselves.
And its man's doing that we suffer now. Why do u blame God for whats happening with the world today. God created universe and we are tasked to take care of all inferior things... But were corrupting this planet. Satan must be very pleased coz he wants to take over the people of this earth...but as long as there are people who believed in Him, Satan cant win. Blessed are those who havent seen yet believed. So please do not say that God is unfair or Hes to blame...
You think of the people born blind, mute and disabled naturally? They were made to manifest the works of our God.
And I pray that this world be a better place...for you, for me, and the entire human race!
Im currently reading Mere Christianity by CS Lewis who was a former atheist.
''And free will is what has made evil
possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.''
I do think its because of freewill that made human do evil things... I say God is fair because he know man is a rational being capable of thinking...so he gave us freewill. Because without it, we wouldnt progress...its just that, men are oftentimes rebellious. We tend to do things our own way. We say we dont need God, because for us we are capable of ourselves.
And its man's doing that we suffer now. Why do u blame God for whats happening with the world today. God created universe and we are tasked to take care of all inferior things... But were corrupting this planet. Satan must be very pleased coz he wants to take over the people of this earth...but as long as there are people who believed in Him, Satan cant win. Blessed are those who havent seen yet believed. So please do not say that God is unfair or Hes to blame...
You think of the people born blind, mute and disabled naturally? They were made to manifest the works of our God.
And I pray that this world be a better place...for you, for me, and the entire human race!
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stringman: this may explain it.
God is ; Just an ILUSSION, created by humans' perception of the REALITY.However,I think there's only a MIND&MATTER,they're the FUNDAMENTALS of all EXISTENCE.Those two ENTITIES has NO feeling (as we humans have) e.g. there's two wires;Positive-negative (+ & - ) das those two wires care who or what come to join them ? NO.The electrical current or force might burn anything what come in between,whether be a human,animal or an other object and will do so without any feeling or mercy whatsoever.
Definition;"God" per se can NOT exist and the "Matter" can NOT also,but the TOTAL EXISTENCE,can be comprehanded only by those two REALITIES TOGETHER,not independtly (or separated )
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morgan5: We do?? I think you will find that people who live in countries were there are threats of earthquakes etc, or are starving because of lack of water/resources for them to grow crops, or there country is torn apart by war, hardly have the opportunity to up sticks and leave the country. jmo
Are they painted to a rock? If not they are able to move, strive to move, attempt to change their circumstances.
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stringman: you are right GOD did make the universe and us. yes he is pleased that we do good and help others. but if you do not believe in HIM and believe HE is your lord and saviour,all is lost.GOD says this is the way it is suppost to be that is the way it is suppost to be.lets face it man has turned away from GOD and gone his own way, not working out is it.IMP.
Obviously you don't believe in free will. I do.
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Because GOD doesnt exist idiots, do you believe in Santa Claus too ?
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just as Christ suffered the sins of the world.
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humanilty makes greatness
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humanilty makes greatness
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just as Christ suffered the sins of the world.
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humilaty makes greatness
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humilaty makes greatness
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LOL !
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pedro27: just as Christ suffered the sins of the world.
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humilaty makes greatness
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humilaty makes greatness
bump
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stringman: you are right GOD did make the universe and us. yes he is pleased that we do good and help others. but if you do not believe in HIM and believe HE is your lord and saviour,all is lost.GOD says this is the way it is suppost to be that is the way it is suppost to be.lets face it man has turned away from GOD and gone his own way, not working out is it.IMP.
So let me get this right....This infinite being you speak of, felt the need to create beings, namely you and me, just to worship him and feed some need that he is lacking in himself. Is he insecure.....or are you creating your God in your own image?
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after reading all comments in this thread I am again ( at least not last .... 2000 x ) happy I am a Catholic one 
I´m not going to bother myself and others to explain why... in fact, being Catholic and be a part of a world Catholic community is just much easier than try to find useless answers for useless questions.
I´m not going to bother myself and others to explain why... in fact, being Catholic and be a part of a world Catholic community is just much easier than try to find useless answers for useless questions.
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pedro27: just as Christ suffered the sins of the world.
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humilaty makes greatness
it is through suffering that we become great, also we resemble Christ when we suffer, offer your suffering up.
humilaty makes greatness
i agree pedro
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this may explain it.