Falsely Accused?? (68)
xxmissuniquexx: Just how far do you go? Suppose see what 2moros phone call brings and have a look at this cctv myself, prob take quiet a battle to get a copy off them though
You're not allowed to view the CCTV AFAIK, under the Data Protection Act initially at least. So when you do, ... write to the Data Protection Commissioner aswell. LOL
As for how far you go, talk to the solicitor. An early settlement would buy a few school books and uniforms. 
xxmissuniquexx: Just looking for a lil bit of advice off anyone who can offer some
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of shoplifting and if so what did you do about it and what was the outcome?
Happened my teenager over the weekend and any advice or anyone who can share their stories would be helpful to me
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of shoplifting and if so what did you do about it and what was the outcome?
Happened my teenager over the weekend and any advice or anyone who can share their stories would be helpful to me
So anyways... did she get good gear out of the place afterwards?
/joke btw. Don't me mad.
MADDOG69: You're not allowed to view the CCTV AFAIK, under the Data Protection Act initially at least. So when you do, ... write to the Data Protection Commissioner aswell. LOL As for how far you go, talk to the solicitor. An early settlement would buy a few school books and uniforms.
Seems that free legal aid place hadnt a clue what they were saying so, I had been told I couldnt view it then she said I could. Think i'll totally disregard all she said to me as it wasnt as helpful as id hoped
And sure we'll see what he has to say 2moro/later on as he hadnt viewed the cctv either when we spoke.And as for the slagging im at it since to take her mind off it and get the buzz off her, she said that night my arm is sore, think I pulled a muscle in it, and I said sure thats bound to happen when your trying to lift shops that size
she was trying not to laugh, and now we're asking does she steal to order, giving requests and sizes. Ah sure a mad thing to happen but it'll be sorted, maybe someone will have an experience to share, id be curious to hear some stories 
xxmissuniquexx: Seems that free legal aid place hadnt a clue what they were saying so, I had been told I couldnt view it then she said I could. Think i'll totally disregard all she said to me as it wasnt as helpful as id hoped And sure we'll see what he has to say 2moro/later on as he hadnt viewed the cctv either when we spoke.
My place years ago was broken into. I rented above a shop off the same owner that owned the whole block. I was allowed to see the CCTV from downstairs, ... unofficially... just in case I recognised them myself. Just me and the shop staff... on the QT. They would get in trouble if I mentioned it to anyone.
You're not doing anything wrong BTW if you look at it. It's the shops responsibility. Unless a guard was there as part of an investigation. If I'm wrong someone correct me.
xxmissuniquexx: Just looking for a lil bit of advice off anyone who can offer some
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of shoplifting and if so what did you do about it and what was the outcome?
Happened my teenager over the weekend and any advice or anyone who can share their stories would be helpful to me
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of shoplifting and if so what did you do about it and what was the outcome?
Happened my teenager over the weekend and any advice or anyone who can share their stories would be helpful to me
I would be fuming also....if it happened to my child...
I will ask my girl...she is HR manager...in Dublin store....hopefully not this store...
She will know her rights..will PM you when I talk to her...if you like....
perfect9: I would be fuming also....if it happened to my child...I will ask my girl...she is HR manager...in Dublin store....hopefully not this store... She will know her rights..will PM you when I talk to her...if you like....
Hopefully not the same store M
And yes id be grateful to hear what your daughter thinks about it, im just finding it very bizarre the way they went about the matter esp with a minor. And the whole making her purchase 2 items from the store even though they only came to 5 euro but they kept them and announced in front of the other people in the queue why they were keeping them. She was mortified, actually didnt tell me til later that night as she thought she'd be in trouble
MD I actually wish there had been a guard with her, the detective pointed out 2 outside the store at 1 stage and threatened to bring them in if she didnt buy what she picked out. Its abit unfair that I cant view it but i'll wait til I do however long it takes as im in no hurry to sort it to ease there troubles
xxmissuniquexx: Just looking for a lil bit of advice off anyone who can offer some
Has anyone ever been falsely accused of shoplifting and if so what did you do about it and what was the outcome?
Happened my teenager over the weekend and any advice or anyone who can share their stories would be helpful to me
you could get a nlce few bob out of that,Has anyone ever been falsely accused of shoplifting and if so what did you do about it and what was the outcome?
Happened my teenager over the weekend and any advice or anyone who can share their stories would be helpful to me
My mate done security studies and he told me that
security in shops have to 100% sure of somebody
shoplifting because if they are wrong the store
can be sued for a huge amount .
I wouldnt let it go anyway its the fact she was
accused in front of the whole store !
Not a nice thing to happen anybody I wouldnt mind
going further with it especially if they already
acknowledge they are wrong .
The balls in your court
security in shops have to 100% sure of somebody
shoplifting because if they are wrong the store
can be sued for a huge amount .
I wouldnt let it go anyway its the fact she was
accused in front of the whole store !
Not a nice thing to happen anybody I wouldnt mind
going further with it especially if they already
acknowledge they are wrong .
The balls in your court
Trealach01: You do not have to leave the premises to be charged with theft. Once you pass the LAST check-out point, you can be stopped and searched, and if found to have an item without a receipt the security can hold you until the gardai arrive. It seems that this girl was unjustly held and could bring charges of 'unlawful detention'. There is also the question of "defamation", since she was falsely accused in public of stealing. My advice, is go and see a solicitor - she may have a case against the store.
Your wrong! A person can still turn around and pay, legally you have to leave the store before you can accuse them. And at no time if you took your eyes off them can u accuse the person,as they could have put it back and u missed it. you have to bee 100% sure. so yes if this was me i would seek a solicitor and take it from there. that was an awful situation for your daughter to be in.
I remember when I worked in a particular large dept store we were told you needed to be 100% sure the person had the item on them before you stopped them and only outside the door, especially when as in a lot of shops the checkouts are located in the middle of the store and not close to the door.
There was this one woman who lifted something and was watched intensely by staff til she left but I thought it looked like she had dropped it. Cue me running like a mad thing round the path she took after she lifted the item. Found it hidden behind a pile of towels! Her plan was to be falsely accused of shop lifting. She walked ever so slowly out the door and even hung around directly outside waiting to be accused til she saw me appear at the door with the item she was 'pretending' she had stolen.
We were always told that a false accusation would be an expensive thing to happen and to avoid it at all costs.
To accuse someone we had to see them lift it.....see them conceal it and make sure we had visual contact on them for the rest of their stay in the shop.
Sounds like that shop is hoping and praying the apology will be enough for you.
I would also make sure to send a letter to their head office and not just the store itself.
That was a horrible horrible experience for your daughter to go through. (((HUGS)))
There was this one woman who lifted something and was watched intensely by staff til she left but I thought it looked like she had dropped it. Cue me running like a mad thing round the path she took after she lifted the item. Found it hidden behind a pile of towels! Her plan was to be falsely accused of shop lifting. She walked ever so slowly out the door and even hung around directly outside waiting to be accused til she saw me appear at the door with the item she was 'pretending' she had stolen.
We were always told that a false accusation would be an expensive thing to happen and to avoid it at all costs.
To accuse someone we had to see them lift it.....see them conceal it and make sure we had visual contact on them for the rest of their stay in the shop.
Sounds like that shop is hoping and praying the apology will be enough for you.
I would also make sure to send a letter to their head office and not just the store itself.
That was a horrible horrible experience for your daughter to go through. (((HUGS)))
While understanding the issues in this case I think one thing has been lost. The security staff in a lot of city centre shops have a very difficult job. The city is full of skangers trying to rob shops blind. Unfortunate as it is mistakes will be made.
skyblue43: While understanding the issues in this case I think one thing has been lost. The security staff in a lot of city centre shops have a very difficult job. The city is full of skangers trying to rob shops blind. Unfortunate as it is mistakes will be made.
Nothing lost at all. Blatent bullying. Something similar happened to someone I know in Tesco Kilrush. Tesco settled out of court. A young inexperienced person would be so terrified that they would agree to anything. As to taking payment and keeping the goods and the receipt....well that is called extortion or demanding money with menaces and that is a crime. For your daughter's benefit, you need to seek legal council.
id be onto a solicitor quick...shes a minor..you should have been called..
making her buy stuff is ridiculous unless she had it on her person..which she says she didnt.
then if she paid for it ..it is hers..so they are not keeping to their contract of sale.
personally, I would, through my solicitor demand a meeting with head of irish operations with this store..(im assuming its a non irish company) and ask for a report on paper from the store manager and the security guard and the video footage. solid paper proof of what they say happened..and u could actually call the gardai on them for denying your daughter her purchases.
Thats just sickening.
making her buy stuff is ridiculous unless she had it on her person..which she says she didnt.
then if she paid for it ..it is hers..so they are not keeping to their contract of sale.
personally, I would, through my solicitor demand a meeting with head of irish operations with this store..(im assuming its a non irish company) and ask for a report on paper from the store manager and the security guard and the video footage. solid paper proof of what they say happened..and u could actually call the gardai on them for denying your daughter her purchases.
Thats just sickening.
Godsgift: Nothing lost at all. Blatent bullying. Something similar happened to someone I know in Tesco Kilrush. Tesco settled out of court. A young inexperienced person would be so terrified that they would agree to anything. As to taking payment and keeping the goods and the receipt....well that is called extortion or demanding money with menaces and that is a crime. For your daughter's benefit, you need to seek legal council.
I mentioned that I was not referring to this case. It was an aside about the difficulties of policing city centre stores where shoplifting is rampant.
xxmissuniquexx: Hopefully not the same store M
And yes id be grateful to hear what your daughter thinks about it, im just finding it very bizarre the way they went about the matter esp with a minor. And the whole making her purchase 2 items from the store even though they only came to 5 euro but they kept them and announced in front of the other people in the queue why they were keeping them. She was mortified, actually didnt tell me til later that night as she thought she'd be in trouble
MD I actually wish there had been a guard with her, the detective pointed out 2 outside the store at 1 stage and threatened to bring them in if she didnt buy what she picked out. Its abit unfair that I cant view it but i'll wait til I do however long it takes as im in no hurry to sort it to ease there troubles
And yes id be grateful to hear what your daughter thinks about it, im just finding it very bizarre the way they went about the matter esp with a minor. And the whole making her purchase 2 items from the store even though they only came to 5 euro but they kept them and announced in front of the other people in the queue why they were keeping them. She was mortified, actually didnt tell me til later that night as she thought she'd be in trouble
MD I actually wish there had been a guard with her, the detective pointed out 2 outside the store at 1 stage and threatened to bring them in if she didnt buy what she picked out. Its abit unfair that I cant view it but i'll wait til I do however long it takes as im in no hurry to sort it to ease there troubles
Hi again,your pm has me blocked....
I asked my girl she said security deal with customers shoplifting in her particular stores and the onus is on security staff if they wrongfully accuse someone of stealing and not the store itself.
The store only deals with internal shoplifting staff etc. She also said you can be stopped leaving the store and dont have to wait till their outside.Not much help to you I guess.
skyblue43: While understanding the issues in this case I think one thing has been lost. The security staff in a lot of city centre shops have a very difficult job. The city is full of skangers trying to rob shops blind. Unfortunate as it is mistakes will be made.
Absolutely! And it's made worse by the derisory sentences given down to shoplifters by judges. These scumbags should be made serve a couple of years breaking rocks in a jail in Conneamara.
Having said that it's totally understandable that missuniquexx is so angry.
snowlynx: Absolutely! And it's made worse by the derisory sentences given down to shoplifters by judges. These scumbags should be made serve a couple of years breaking rocks in a jail in Conneamara.
Having said that it's totally understandable that missuniquexx is so angry.
Having said that it's totally understandable that missuniquexx is so angry.
Yeah. There are people making a living by shoplifting to order...
You can make up a shopping list for them including sizes and brands and the scum will nick it for you....Can yous honestly say yous have never bought any nicked gear before?? ever been to Fairyhouse market?? or any market for that matter?? practically all of it is nicked or fake!!
mcattack: Can yous honestly say yous have never bought any nicked gear before?? ever been to Fairyhouse market?? or any market for that matter?? practically all of it is nicked or fake!!
As an honest law abiding citizen I can say I have never bought nicked gear since the day I was caught walking out of BTs with one pair of trousers on over another...
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Spot on, Sir. Was going to write that until I saw you had.