When did it become a crime to be a patriot? (65)
just wondering what modern day china,s attitude towards muslims is?when i stayed there n the eighties,for twelve months, i stayed with shaolin monks in a temple in northern china,and inscriptions on the wall looked like a battle between islamic style warriors and the chinese,but wasnt allowed to ask or talk about it ,all i know isthey were driven out and never returned,they werent mongols so i take it they must have been islamic types like morrocans,or afghans,or could have even been northern indian.Dont think china would be happy with an islamic temple in shanghhai
In response to: Police arrest CBD protest organisers
By Mark Morri and Janet Fife-Yeomans
The Daily Telegraph September 22, 2012 12:00AM
TWO men alleged to have used texts and social media to organise a pro-Australia rally in the wake of last week's violent Muslim protest were yesterday arrested for inciting and promoting violence.
By Mark Morri and Janet Fife-Yeomans
The Daily Telegraph September 22, 2012 12:00AM
TWO men alleged to have used texts and social media to organise a pro-Australia rally in the wake of last week's violent Muslim protest were yesterday arrested for inciting and promoting violence.
Good on these two men for the first part..trying to organise a pro-Australia rally. Why can't we have a rally for ALL Australians? We can have them for China, Tibet, school teachers, unionists who want a PM's pay, illegal immigrants but not if you want one to show you are Australian and it is your primary country, no matter where you originated from. Hell, they are even trying to ban ANZAC Day Marches.
But as far as trying to mimic the violence, good on the cops for stopping it.
My daughter worked in a very large firm in the city. Out of the whole floor she worked on, she was one of very few who had 1 parent born in Australia, and was 1 of few born in Australia. But everyone called themselves Australian.
rippleinapond: just wondering what modern day china,s attitude towards muslims is?when i stayed there n the eighties,for twelve months, i stayed with shaolin monks in a temple in northern china,and inscriptions on the wall looked like a battle between islamic style warriors and the chinese,but wasnt allowed to ask or talk about it ,all i know isthey were driven out and never returned,they werent mongols so i take it they must have been islamic types like morrocans,or afghans,or could have even been northern indian.Dont think china would be happy with an islamic temple in shanghhai
Large part of the Tibet population was Muslim
robplum: Large part of the Tibet population was Muslim
was that the western side of tibet?noticed that the muslims of the east are more passive,dont seem to hav the hatred built into them,that the countries have that had been involved in the crusadesin the 12 century or thereabouts.
wash2u:
My daughter worked in a very large firm in the city. Out of the whole floor she worked on, she was one of very few who had 1 parent born in Australia, and was 1 of few born in Australia. But everyone called themselves Australian.
My daughter worked in a very large firm in the city. Out of the whole floor she worked on, she was one of very few who had 1 parent born in Australia, and was 1 of few born in Australia. But everyone called themselves Australian.
I wasn't born in Australia, but I'm an Australian citizen. I love the place and consider it my home now although I was born in the UK.
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
NotABlonde: I wasn't born in Australia, but I'm an Australian citizen. I love the place and consider it my home now although I was born in the UK.
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
My friend is from the UK she has been here for 33 years and has become an Australian citizen.
But she also goes on and on about how great and much better her birth country is 
I have asked her WHY ARE YOU HEREher answer is well you have a better lifestyle here more to offer. I don't get it why if you are so homesick stay in a country that is second rated to you 
I have said all this to her and don't get an honest answer that makes much sense, she is my friend but like a lot of imigrants takes Australia for granted JMO! In some ways it the same like I am originally from N.S.W. and came to Western Australia 35 years ago and today I look at my self as a true West Aussie sandgroper & feel like I really belong this is my home and I just love it here. I feel like I have lived here all my life and couldn't imagine living anywhere else in the world, my friend cannot believe how boring I am. Each to their own I suppose
My point is even though I am born and bred in Australia what is wrong with people who come to Australia or people who come to our different states to live "Aussies included in this debate too" and run our country down people can be so selfish! makes me real mad
We all live in Australia and call Australia home hold Ya! head up high and shuddup! get on with ya life
call Australia home 
curly28: My friend is from the UK she has been here for 33 years and has become an Australian citizen. But she also goes on and on about how great and much better her birth country is I have asked her WHY ARE YOU HEREher answer is well you have a better lifestyle here more to offer. I don't get it why if you are so homesick stay in a country that is second rated to you I have said all this to her and don't get an honest answer that makes much sense, she is my friend but like a lot of imigrants takes Australia for granted JMO!
In some ways it the same like I am originally from N.S.W. and came to Western Australia 35 years ago and today I look at my self as a true West Aussie sandgroper & feel like I really belong this is my home and I just love it here. I feel like I have lived here all my life and couldn't imagine living anywhere else in the world, my friend cannot believe how boring I am. Each to their own I suppose
My point is even though I am born and bred in Australia what is wrong with people who come to Australia or people who come to our different states to live "Aussies included in this debate too" and run our country down people can be so selfish! makes me real mad
We all live in Australia and call Australia home hold Ya! head up high and shuddup! get on with ya life call Australia home
In some ways it the same like I am originally from N.S.W. and came to Western Australia 35 years ago and today I look at my self as a true West Aussie sandgroper & feel like I really belong this is my home and I just love it here. I feel like I have lived here all my life and couldn't imagine living anywhere else in the world, my friend cannot believe how boring I am. Each to their own I suppose
My point is even though I am born and bred in Australia what is wrong with people who come to Australia or people who come to our different states to live "Aussies included in this debate too" and run our country down people can be so selfish! makes me real mad
We all live in Australia and call Australia home hold Ya! head up high and shuddup! get on with ya life call Australia home
Hi Curly,
I was born overseas.. I came here as a baby. Australia is my country, and my home...
But,
I did go visit where I was born, and found that like so many people, it was pretty, but the lifestyle of breathing constant carbon monoxide would have driven me crazy, and not having a garden, hanging washing out on lines that overlook roads, etc.. some of those things were positively non appealing.
I was born in a city - Trieste - Italy.. def in the city part. I guess I love cities, and I was in awe with the differences, but, no way do I want to go there to live..
As I travelled around Europe tho, I must say, my ideal life would be to have my aussie home, but travel and live in different parts of the world. but I can only dream... lol.
However, if I could chose to live somewhere, It'd be prolly in Monaco, right next to France, and to Italy, and not far from any city that I chose to go to...
Yeah Yeah, I want my cake and eat it too...
Merriweather: Hi Curly,
I was born overseas.. I came here as a baby. Australia is my country, and my home...
But,
I did go visit where I was born, and found that like so many people, it was pretty, but the lifestyle of breathing constant carbon monoxide would have driven me crazy, and not having a garden, hanging washing out on lines that overlook roads, etc.. some of those things were positively non appealing.
I was born in a city - Trieste - Italy.. def in the city part. I guess I love cities, and I was in awe with the differences, but, no way do I want to go there to live..
As I travelled around Europe tho, I must say, my ideal life would be to have my aussie home, but travel and live in different parts of the world. but I can only dream... lol.
However, if I could chose to live somewhere, It'd be prolly in Monaco, right next to France, and to Italy, and not far from any city that I chose to go to...
Yeah Yeah, I want my cake and eat it too...
I was born overseas.. I came here as a baby. Australia is my country, and my home...
But,
I did go visit where I was born, and found that like so many people, it was pretty, but the lifestyle of breathing constant carbon monoxide would have driven me crazy, and not having a garden, hanging washing out on lines that overlook roads, etc.. some of those things were positively non appealing.
I was born in a city - Trieste - Italy.. def in the city part. I guess I love cities, and I was in awe with the differences, but, no way do I want to go there to live..
As I travelled around Europe tho, I must say, my ideal life would be to have my aussie home, but travel and live in different parts of the world. but I can only dream... lol.
However, if I could chose to live somewhere, It'd be prolly in Monaco, right next to France, and to Italy, and not far from any city that I chose to go to...
Yeah Yeah, I want my cake and eat it too...
There's a spare room for you here in the west of Ireland.
Godsgift: There's a spare room for you here in the west of Ireland.
Oh K, thanks so much, and you know I'd take you up on it if I come over ..
Hey, are you back from your holiday already... Jeez, I wanna hear how you went..
NotABlonde: I wasn't born in Australia, but I'm an Australian citizen. I love the place and consider it my home now although I was born in the UK.
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
To bad we cant hear your accent notablonde . Great picture must have a great accent as well as being a nice person to chat online with
Was that to much crawling
mickyj63: To bad we cant hear your accent notablonde . Great picture must have a great accent as well as being a nice person to chat online with
Was that to much crawling
Was that to much crawling
oops wrong thread thought it was the accent thread
curly28: My friend is from the UK she has been here for 33 years and has become an Australian citizen. But she also goes on and on about how great and much better her birth country is I have asked her WHY ARE YOU HEREher answer is well you have a better lifestyle here more to offer. I don't get it why if you are so homesick stay in a country that is second rated to you I have said all this to her and don't get an honest answer that makes much sense, she is my friend but like a lot of imigrants takes Australia for granted JMO!
In some ways it the same like I am originally from N.S.W. and came to Western Australia 35 years ago and today I look at my self as a true West Aussie sandgroper & feel like I really belong this is my home and I just love it here. I feel like I have lived here all my life and couldn't imagine living anywhere else in the world, my friend cannot believe how boring I am. Each to their own I suppose
My point is even though I am born and bred in Australia what is wrong with people who come to Australia or people who come to our different states to live "Aussies included in this debate too" and run our country down people can be so selfish! makes me real mad
We all live in Australia and call Australia home hold Ya! head up high and shuddup! get on with ya life call Australia home
In some ways it the same like I am originally from N.S.W. and came to Western Australia 35 years ago and today I look at my self as a true West Aussie sandgroper & feel like I really belong this is my home and I just love it here. I feel like I have lived here all my life and couldn't imagine living anywhere else in the world, my friend cannot believe how boring I am. Each to their own I suppose
My point is even though I am born and bred in Australia what is wrong with people who come to Australia or people who come to our different states to live "Aussies included in this debate too" and run our country down people can be so selfish! makes me real mad
We all live in Australia and call Australia home hold Ya! head up high and shuddup! get on with ya life call Australia home
Similar to curly work with a kiwi woman she hates it here lived in australia over 20 yrs . She moved here when her kids were young.She got public housing and everything else .Her biggest regret her kids becoming aussie citizens .
She hates living here and wont go back
mickyj63: oops wrong thread thought it was the accent thread
:-) You fool (said with a nice accent of course)
NotABlonde: I wasn't born in Australia, but I'm an Australian citizen. I love the place and consider it my home now although I was born in the UK.
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
NotA, so much agree. I am not for everyone to have to speak English (of many variations) but that if you want to live in a ANY country, you should learn to speak their language and respect their customs and beliefs.
Merriweather: Hi Curly,
I was born overseas.. I came here as a baby. Australia is my country, and my home...
But,
I did go visit where I was born, and found that like so many people, it was pretty, but the lifestyle of breathing constant carbon monoxide would have driven me crazy, and not having a garden, hanging washing out on lines that overlook roads, etc.. some of those things were positively non appealing.
I was born in a city - Trieste - Italy.. def in the city part. I guess I love cities, and I was in awe with the differences, but, no way do I want to go there to live..
As I travelled around Europe tho, I must say, my ideal life would be to have my aussie home, but travel and live in different parts of the world. but I can only dream... lol.
However, if I could chose to live somewhere, It'd be prolly in Monaco, right next to France, and to Italy, and not far from any city that I chose to go to...
Yeah Yeah, I want my cake and eat it too...
I was born overseas.. I came here as a baby. Australia is my country, and my home...
But,
I did go visit where I was born, and found that like so many people, it was pretty, but the lifestyle of breathing constant carbon monoxide would have driven me crazy, and not having a garden, hanging washing out on lines that overlook roads, etc.. some of those things were positively non appealing.
I was born in a city - Trieste - Italy.. def in the city part. I guess I love cities, and I was in awe with the differences, but, no way do I want to go there to live..
As I travelled around Europe tho, I must say, my ideal life would be to have my aussie home, but travel and live in different parts of the world. but I can only dream... lol.
However, if I could chose to live somewhere, It'd be prolly in Monaco, right next to France, and to Italy, and not far from any city that I chose to go to...
Yeah Yeah, I want my cake and eat it too...
Yes it would be lovely to visit your home where your birthright is and to travel the world we all want to travel and see as much of the world but will always be happy to come home cause it's where my heart is
proud to be aussies put it there merri 
curly28: Yes it would be lovely to visit your home where your birthright is and to travel the world we all want to travel and see as much of the world but will always be happy to come home cause it's where my heart is proud to be aussies put it there merri
Seriously tho Curly,
no matter what, if we are honest, we do have it good here... the weather for one... even if we are having the coldest and wettest winter, it would never be that biting cold that goes on and on for months over the pond.
I did notice that lot overseas get the doldrums in their winter.. they just miss the sun, and as soon as their spring and sun comes out, they are all happy and smiling.. but in the winter, its sad sad faces..
NotABlonde: I wasn't born in Australia, but I'm an Australian citizen. I love the place and consider it my home now although I was born in the UK.
When I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
geez you born there too,so was i lol this is a pommy forum hahaWhen I lived in England there were countless Aussies working there, should they not have been allowed to go there to live and work? My niece (Australian born) is over there now working and planning on staying as long as she can, she's doing a job in recruitment that an English person could easily do, has she taken their job?
It used to amaze me the way people would complain about immigrants coming over to the UK without being able to speak the language etc yet countless Brits thought nothing of going to Spain, buying a house....talking louder to make themselves understood....
It's a takeover!
I have been an Aus Citizen for over forty years but was born in the UK...but Aus is my home.
I have been back to the UK three times over the years as my ex wanted to go' but I got so homesick for Aus after the first couple of weeks it wasent funny' in fact I was a whinging Aussie.
There are some wonderful things I love about the UK ...the people, the incredible countryside,and the lovely villages but this big wild rather isolated Country is so very speciel
and I believe the epitome of Australia is WA Wow.....if any of you have never been there try to go as that State is a law unto itself' they dont give a stuff what goes on anywhere else ...why should they as they have it all ,I will always treasure the 4 years I lived there in the hills of Glen Forest.
I have been back to the UK three times over the years as my ex wanted to go' but I got so homesick for Aus after the first couple of weeks it wasent funny' in fact I was a whinging Aussie.
There are some wonderful things I love about the UK ...the people, the incredible countryside,and the lovely villages but this big wild rather isolated Country is so very speciel
and I believe the epitome of Australia is WA Wow.....if any of you have never been there try to go as that State is a law unto itself' they dont give a stuff what goes on anywhere else ...why should they as they have it all ,I will always treasure the 4 years I lived there in the hills of Glen Forest.
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Thanks for the post Kizzy - very informative.
I think it is more a case of it being really really difficult to get Japanese citizenship which also comes with a full committment to Japan, its way of life, language, culture etc.
I suppose they have got the right idea, they don't just dish out their citizenship to all and sundry and rubber stamp it. If you want to live there you have to prove you are fully committed, language even translate your name??
It is their right to do that I guess?