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Jan 12, 2013 7:33 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
we had sometime up to five Firearms in our home,and the Ammunition to go along with them!
All of us knew though,that unless in an emergency,those two stay separated!
Never had a Firearm go off accidentally in our home!
It's just Malarkey and Scaremongering that it is unsafe to have Kids and Firearm in the same House!
What the problem is today,is Lack Of Firearms-Instruction!
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Jan 12, 2013 7:33 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
montemonte: Well your introduction post didn't say he was in the kids bedroom. It said you heard screams. The kids could be screaming from the sound of the window breaking. But I'll put that aside.

It doesn't make sense that he would go to their bedroom unless he was going to take them hostage or to kill them. He has to know that you are going to be running in there. That could be his ploy to get you out of your bedroom. Also, if he went directly to their bedroom chances are this person has been in your house before and knows the layout of the house so more then likely, you know each other. Could it be an ex-husband who lost custody of the children and has come to take them away.

So I would be running to the kids bedroom and at the same time calling 9-1-1. When I got there I would do everything possible to distract him from the children. You didn't say that he had a gun so my immediate goal would not be to kill this person unless he has harmed the children. I also wouldn't have a gun so I would have to pick up something in the kids room to beat the crap out of him.

When you kill an intruder, if it goes to court, the prosecutor is going to ask you, why did you kill him. If you say I just wanted to kill him, even though you had a right to kill an intruder, it doesn't go well for you. The thing to say is....I just wanted to stop him. I'll agree that you're not going to think about that when in the scenario that you gave us. That's why it's important to be educated about the law.

So now I'm in the kids room. The minute I see him I will spray the pepper spray but here's another time you have to think when you're spraying it. There shouldn't be any wind in the room unless the broken window was in the kids room, so the spray won't be carried by wind, but you don't want the spray to go into the kids eyes, so you have to work this guy away from the children.

Stopping an intruder isn't just physical. You need to think through the process. By now you should be hearing sirens outside your house.

BTW, if you were thinking I might have said I would get a kitchen knife, that would be a big mistake on my part. Unless I knew exactly how to hold a knife to kill someone, he would have used it on me.

Now that you see I'm a woman of many words, I'd probably try to talk him to death


Your right, I should have been more specific on details and such...however, in the state of Oklahoma we have "make my day law", if a person enters your property uninvited and you know they are there to cause harm, you have a right to defend yourself, even if death occurs, you are not convicted...

The only thing with pepper spray that I have a problem with, is most criminals are running on pure adrenaline, heard horror stories about this....

But all in all I like your tactic....

Atleast your a woman of many wise words cheers
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Jan 12, 2013 7:35 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
Migsy: Why threads now are all about guns?somebody shoot me pls.


hug

I actually opened it for other scenerio's other than gun use actually...just trying to get what the "anti-gun" folks do during an emergency
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Jan 12, 2013 7:36 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
montemonte: Well your introduction post didn't say he was in the kids bedroom. It said you heard screams. The kids could be screaming from the sound of the window breaking. But I'll put that aside.

It doesn't make sense that he would go to their bedroom unless he was going to take them hostage or to kill them. He has to know that you are going to be running in there. That could be his ploy to get you out of your bedroom. Also, if he went directly to their bedroom chances are this person has been in your house before and knows the layout of the house so more then likely, you know each other. Could it be an ex-husband who lost custody of the children and has come to take them away.

So I would be running to the kids bedroom and at the same time calling 9-1-1. When I got there I would do everything possible to distract him from the children. You didn't say that he had a gun so my immediate goal would not be to kill this person unless he has harmed the children. I also wouldn't have a gun so I would have to pick up something in the kids room to beat the crap out of him.

When you kill an intruder, if it goes to court, the prosecutor is going to ask you, why did you kill him. If you say I just wanted to kill him, even though you had a right to kill an intruder, it doesn't go well for you. The thing to say is....I just wanted to stop him. I'll agree that you're not going to think about that when in the scenario that you gave us. That's why it's important to be educated about the law.

So now I'm in the kids room. The minute I see him I will spray the pepper spray but here's another time you have to think when you're spraying it. There shouldn't be any wind in the room unless the broken window was in the kids room, so the spray won't be carried by wind, but you don't want the spray to go into the kids eyes, so you have to work this guy away from the children.

Stopping an intruder isn't just physical. You need to think through the process. By now you should be hearing sirens outside your house.

BTW, if you were thinking I might have said I would get a kitchen knife, that would be a big mistake on my part. Unless I knew exactly how to hold a knife to kill someone, he would have used it on me.

Now that you see I'm a woman of many words, I'd probably try to talk him to death


Very well said monte. I've worked through similar situations at several police academies and deadly force, such as a using a gun, is found reasonable if ones life is serious imminent danger. It has been demonstrated time and again that a victim has only a certain amount of time to react effectively if they want to live. Home castle laws exist in most states too. It is always better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
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Jan 12, 2013 7:38 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
A burglar broke into a house one night. He shined his flashlight
around, looking for valuables when a voice in the dark said,
'Jesus knows you're here.'

He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight off, and froze.
When he heard nothing more, after a bit, he shook his head and
continued.

Just as he pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a bell he heard 'Jesus is watching you.'

Freaked out, he shined his light around frantically, looking
for the source of the voice.

Finally, in the corner of the room, his flashlight beam came to
rest on a parrot..










'Did you say that?' he hissed at the parrot..

'Yep', the parrot confessed, then squawked, 'I'm just trying to warn you that he is watching you.'

The burglar relaxed. 'Warn me, huh? Who in the world are you ?'

'Moses,' replied the bird.

'Moses?' the burglar laughed.
'What kind of people would name a bird Moses?'

'The kind of people that would name a
Rottweiler Jesus.'
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Jan 12, 2013 7:40 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
stringman: A burglar broke into a house one night. He shined his flashlight
around, looking for valuables when a voice in the dark said,
'Jesus knows you're here.'

He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight off, and froze.
When he heard nothing more, after a bit, he shook his head and
continued.

Just as he pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a bell he heard 'Jesus is watching you.'

Freaked out, he shined his light around frantically, looking
for the source of the voice.

Finally, in the corner of the room, his flashlight beam came to
rest on a parrot..

'Did you say that?' he hissed at the parrot..

'Yep', the parrot confessed, then squawked, 'I'm just trying to warn you that he is watching you.'

The burglar relaxed. 'Warn me, huh? Who in the world are you ?'

'Moses,' replied the bird.

'Moses?' the burglar laughed.
'What kind of people would name a bird Moses?'

'The kind of people that would name a
Rottweiler Jesus.'


thumbs up rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 12, 2013 7:42 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
stringman: A burglar broke into a house one night. He shined his flashlight
around, looking for valuables when a voice in the dark said,
'Jesus knows you're here.'

He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight off, and froze.
When he heard nothing more, after a bit, he shook his head and
continued.

Just as he pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a bell he heard 'Jesus is watching you.'

Freaked out, he shined his light around frantically, looking
for the source of the voice.

Finally, in the corner of the room, his flashlight beam came to
rest on a parrot..

'Did you say that?' he hissed at the parrot..

'Yep', the parrot confessed, then squawked, 'I'm just trying to warn you that he is watching you.'

The burglar relaxed. 'Warn me, huh? Who in the world are you ?'

'Moses,' replied the bird.

'Moses?' the burglar laughed.
'What kind of people would name a bird Moses?'

'The kind of people that would name a
Rottweiler Jesus.'


OMG that's too funny!!

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 12, 2013 7:48 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
I guess all in all, I'm just trying to get people to open their minds to things that "could" happen and what they would plan to do if it did occur.

guess I was raised to prepare for the unexpected...that's why I have a cellar (for tornado's in case your wondering), a life insurance policy, insurance on my property, a will...I could go on and on, most would know what to do if their house caught on fire, but sad not many have thought about defending themeselves in their own home...sad really
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Jan 12, 2013 7:48 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
If someone broke into my kid's bedroom the screams would be from the intruder.
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Jan 12, 2013 7:52 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
I guess I would grab my golf clubs and hope I hit the best drive of my life.
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Jan 12, 2013 8:08 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
Sterling_Wollops
Sterling_WollopsSterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia22 Threads 2 Polls 1,749 Posts
No intruder would ever break into this house without being stung by bees, mauled by a dog, and squashed through bars.
If they did i would pour them a beer for being a good sport.
About as stupid a answer as the question really....
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Oh quick honey grab the gun, bang de bang bang. laugh
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Jan 12, 2013 9:35 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
In response to: It's 3 am, you hear a window break...your kids are sleeping in their bedrooms down the hall...all of a sudden screams pour out, what do you do? ( all you that would say call 911, just bear in mind, your going to have to take some sort of action along with that, after all the intruder is already in your kids room)just makes me wonder how many would be wishing they had a gun....js



#1. How would one know who/what it was that broke.

#2.The kids could've knocked a lamp etc off their end table for all I know.
I sure wouldn't go off half cocked and start shooting.

I would definitly get out of bed and invesigate.I sure wouldn't want to shoot the kids.

There's a number of reasons why glass would've broke.
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Jan 13, 2013 10:02 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
pisceslady7online today!
pisceslady7online today!pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
I live in Australia and only know ONE person with a gun and he is a farmer who uses it to shoot foxes attacking his sheep. So...guns don't really come into it here. Most of the people that break in are also not carrying guns but teens looking for money. (Yes, I was broken into recently and this is backed up by the information given to me by my local police)

What would I do? Stay quiet and listen to get as much information as possible whilst I called the police AND my neighbours.

I would then quietly creep to the front/back door to unlock it so my neighbours/police could get in.

I would then throw something down the hall to the OTHER end of the house...and, when the intruder came out to investigate...hit him with a heavy object.

Hopefully the neighbours would be close behind me. Actually, I luckily have a very large neighbour who looks like a bouncer who is just ten feet from my front door. His shadow would scare anyone to death!
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Jan 13, 2013 10:12 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
stringman:
'Moses?' the burglar laughed.
'What kind of people would name a bird Moses?'

'The kind of people that would name a
Rottweiler Jesus.'


In your countries has not been talked about laws to prohibit certain breeds of dogs?

Not guns, not dogs. If you want to defend your home as a castle, dig a moat all around and buy a few crocodiles...until they ban crocodiles.
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Jan 13, 2013 10:14 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
pisceslady7:
What would I do? Stay quiet and listen to get as much information as possible whilst I called the police AND my neighbours.

I would then quietly creep to the front/back door to unlock it so my neighbours/police could get in.

I would then throw something down the hall to the OTHER end of the house...and, when the intruder came out to investigate...hit him with a heavy object.




Good thinking Pices. I especially like the part about throwing something that would make noise to distract him. I also like the part about unlocking the door.

I would have a German Shepherd dog or maybe a Rottweiler. Both are good guard dogs as well as family dogs. Yes, a Rottweiler can be just as cuddly as a two pound Pomeranian. When the dog barked the intruder would move on to the next house UNLESS his intent was just for this house. That's why in my original response I said the fact that he went directly to the bedroom of the childroom makes me think this might be more about a vendetta on the woman then a robbery.
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Jan 13, 2013 10:15 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
GUZMAN1: In your countries has not been talked about laws to prohibit certain breeds of dogs?

Not guns, not dogs. If you want to defend your home as a castle, dig a moat all around and buy a few crocodiles...until they ban crocodiles.
they probably are already banned though about a million Regulations about the Possession of Exotic Animals!laugh

Imagine reading the cause for your arrest on the Warrant,"Illegal Possession Of A Dozen Crocodiles"!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 13, 2013 10:21 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
fearlessfred001
fearlessfred001fearlessfred001Salt Flat, TX, Texas USA66 Posts
There was story I read a while back. It seems that someone was breaking into a house. The homeowner called 911 and was told that police would be there "as soon as possible". The homeowner calls back and says "don't worry about it, I have a gun and I am going to shoot them". The police arrived in less then 2 minutes. It seems that the safety of criminals mattered more then the safety of the homeowner. Anyone that breaks into my house will be carried out.
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Jan 13, 2013 10:24 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Conrad73: they probably are already banned though about a million Regulations about the Possession of Exotic Animals!

Imagine reading the cause for your arrest on the Warrant,"Illegal Possession Of A Dozen Crocodiles"!

laugh Or "to feed crocodiles with burglars in an unauthorized way".
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Jan 13, 2013 10:28 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Conrad73: they probably are already banned though about a million Regulations about the Possession of Exotic Animals!

Imagine reading the cause for your arrest on the Warrant,"Illegal Possession Of A Dozen Crocodiles"!



Addendum to the Warrant: that didn't eat you...laugh
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Jan 13, 2013 10:39 AM CST What would you really do.....c'mon now be honest
Sterling_Wollops: No intruder would ever break into this house without being stung by bees, mauled by a dog, and squashed through bars.
If they did i would pour them a beer for being a good sport.
About as stupid a answer as the question really....
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Oh quick honey grab the gun, bang de bang bang.


You have bars on your windows??
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