Jealousy ( Archived) (136)

Mar 21, 2013 8:29 AM CST Jealousy
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
montemonte: The hound is my relationship specialist




rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing wait a minute, what's wrong wit cat'scool cool cool cool
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Mar 21, 2013 8:32 AM CST Jealousy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
bodleing: I doubt there are any "relationship specialists" on here.

Which is surely much of the motivation for debating relationship subjects: to learn and progress. tip hat
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Mar 21, 2013 8:34 AM CST Jealousy
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
tomcatwarne: wait a minute, what's wrong wit cat's



laugh I gave you a thumbs up in post 61 Tommy. Can't agree with you again....it's against the Rules grin
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Mar 21, 2013 8:36 AM CST Jealousy
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
jac379: Which is surely much of the motivation for debating relationship subjects: to learn and progress.


Indeed, but too many just trying to push their own agendas to debate, learn and progress unfortunately.

wine
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Mar 21, 2013 8:36 AM CST Jealousy
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
jac379: Which is surely much of the motivation for debating relationship subjects: to learn and progress.




I wouldn't consider calling a male member out much motivation for debating subjects: to learning and progress.How do you learn and progress from that?
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Mar 21, 2013 8:37 AM CST Jealousy
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
lips
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Mar 21, 2013 8:38 AM CST Jealousy
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Anyway, off out for lunch now with Mickyscouse.

Anyone remember him?
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Mar 21, 2013 8:40 AM CST Jealousy
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
bodleing: Anyway, off out for lunch now with Mickyscouse.

Anyone remember him?



I kinda do. He's usually in the Irish forum isn't he?
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Mar 21, 2013 8:40 AM CST Jealousy
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
tomcatwarne: But it's not only me you are attacking, it's other people as well, I am well known for quoting and only quote sources where there is no copyright.

Your insistence on claiming you are the sole arbitrator of subjects, and personally attacking others quotes, even calling them psychopaths, is indefensible. This is a free forum and whilst you have a good grasp on some subjects your blind allegiance to feminist Marxism leads you artsy.Lets get on to discussing subjects freely, and with a bit of humour. CS is not the holy grail of discussion. Lets leave out the personal attacks on people you don't like and have some fun.




thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up



Thank you Tom this is exactly my feelings only you explained them better.
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Mar 21, 2013 8:40 AM CST Jealousy
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
montemonte: I kinda do. He's usually in the Irish forum isn't he?


These days, yes.
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Mar 21, 2013 8:42 AM CST Jealousy
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
bodleing: These days, yes.



Enjoy your lunch and save a little bit for the hound wave
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Mar 21, 2013 8:57 AM CST Jealousy
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
jac379: Which is surely much of the motivation for debating relationship subjects: to learn and progress.


I do agree Jac, it's interesting to hear different opinions from different people - and it gives you an idea about a good few people uh oh
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Mar 21, 2013 8:59 AM CST Jealousy
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Another thing to consider is why words like "needy or "clingy" are used by women to describe men(as repulsive)far more often than they are the other way around.

Jealous types are "clingy" and "needy", and the connotation and prominence of these words in the female popular vocabulary to describe clearly demonstrates that women find jealousy repulsive to a(far?)greater extent than men do.

This would explain why players, pick-up artists and men with the best looking wives/girlfriends display a character that is diametrically opposed to being jealous - aloofness, confidence and indifference.
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Mar 21, 2013 9:03 AM CST Jealousy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Ccincy: I wouldn't consider calling a male member out much motivation for debating subjects: to learning and progress.How do you learn and progress from that?

I'm not sure I understand your question, Ccincy, but I'll try to explain my reasoning.

Tom followed a train of thought which originated from him saying something to the effect of, if you have feelings of jealousy because your partner is attending to someone else, you should gain back that attention by deliberately attempting to incite jealousy in your partner.

I argued against that, but instead of following the argument through, Tom copied someone else's writing without crediting them and without relating it to his previous comments. I didn't understand why he did that.

As for Rump, he also copied someone else's writing without crediting them and so was passing it off as his own. This particular piece he copied, I found interesting in its abusive and sociopathic structuring, particularly as its presented in the original as successful relationship advice.

Both Tom's original train of debate and Rump's copy were focussed upon game playing as a solution to relationship conflict, rather than communication. I believe they're destructive solutions.

The learning and progress for me is spotting game playing over effective communication and also that which constitutes effective communication, or appropriate behaviour.

I think its quite important to be able to recognise abusive and sociopathic techniques so we are neither subject to them, nor do we take them on board as ethical, or appropriate practices.
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Mar 21, 2013 9:44 AM CST Jealousy
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
jac379: I'm not sure I understand your question, Ccincy, but I'll try to explain my reasoning.

Tom followed a train of thought which originated from him saying something to the effect of, if you have feelings of jealousy because your partner is attending to someone else, you should gain back that attention by deliberately attempting to incite jealousy in your partner.

I argued against that, but instead of following the argument through, Tom copied someone else's writing without crediting them and without relating it to his previous comments. I didn't understand why he did that.

As for Rump, he also copied someone else's writing without crediting them and so was passing it off as his own. This particular piece he copied, I found interesting in its abusive and sociopathic structuring, particularly as its presented in the original as successful relationship advice.

Both Tom's original train of debate and Rump's copy were focussed upon game playing as a solution to relationship conflict, rather than communication. I believe they're destructive solutions.

The learning and progress for me is spotting game playing over effective communication and also that which constitutes effective communication, or appropriate behaviour.

I think its quite important to be able to recognise abusive and sociopathic techniques so we are neither subject to them, nor do we take them on board as ethical, or appropriate practices.





jac I wasn't referring to Tom's post but since you wish to bring him into the discussion I would suggest you go read post #59 of his.I totally agree with him.

In defense of Tom he does quite often post a link to what he posts.



As for Rump or whatever he chooses to call himself I'm not to awfully worried nor concerned about him.He's a know it all kid anyway.giggle My son's not to much younger then him and still thinks he knows everything about life.

It's funny just how much some of those kinds of people who think they're such the experts on everything.Heck I'm 64 and I'm still learning.I doubt if we ever quit learning.laugh



The forums just aren't that much fun anymore when some people come off as know it alls about just about everything.


There doesn't seem to be much laughter anymore.I rarely log in much anymore and just read and only log in when and if I see something worth posting to.
I wonder if the lack of fun could be the reason behind some people leaving or not posting in the forums anymore.Just before I left the site I noticed a coldness within the forums.Then during the presidential stuff I came back and saw nothing had really changed.Still scammers and still infighting.


Sometimes I think that maybe the sites owners should change the name from Connecting Singles to Disconnecting singles.Plus have a sign that reads enter at your own risk.To be perfectly honest jac the internet scares me to death.


Not saying I'm perfect and haven't said things out of the way too but gee whiz it doesn't seem to take much to set most people off these days.I'd be totally scared to death to meet some people on here or date them wondering if they display the very same personality they do on here.
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Mar 21, 2013 10:05 AM CST Jealousy
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
grin
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Mar 21, 2013 10:26 AM CST Jealousy
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
OOO you are awful,, but I do like yougrin tongue
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Mar 21, 2013 10:37 AM CST Jealousy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
tomcatwarne: OOO you are awful,, but I do like you

Go drink beer, you t*sser. It might improve your debate technique.

tongue backatya laugh
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Mar 21, 2013 10:45 AM CST Jealousy
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
jac379: Go drink beer, you t*sser. It might improve your debate technique.

backatya



Pubs aren't open yet but I'll have one for you when they do.


You are merely discrediting yourself by appearing intransigent and making unreasonable accusations, and acting a bit frumpish and humourless.

But if it makes you happy you winteddybear comfort dear
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Mar 21, 2013 11:13 AM CST Jealousy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
tomcatwarne: Pubs aren't open yet but I'll have one for you when they do.You are merely discrediting yourself by appearing intransigent and making unreasonable accusations, and acting a bit frumpish and humourless.

But if it makes you happy you win dear

If i appear intransigent, perhaps its because you've not said anything which might alter my thinking, despite me asking you on more than one occasion to clarify your position. What do you expect? that I say you're right, its healthy to try and make your partner jealous to alleviate your own, even though I believe the opposite to be true?

What unreasonable accusations do you think I have made? Only several times you have misrepresented me on this thread and suggested I have said things that were of your own creation.

Bestowing 'winning' status on me appears like you're attempting to patronise me in order to avoid laying your debate open to my scrutiny. chicken
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