Children don't need best friends - true or false? (48)
galrads: I'm getting an education tonight
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What do these “experts” think society is composed of anyways? like no more close chosen groups/friends.. what is next family?
Looks like this is some sort of brand new secret knowledge of “wake up world” we are the “sheep?”. ..better start believing in the conspiracies theory about mind control.
of course, the media will not help, by only showing the most sensational of stories. And the side of the story shown must be in accordance with the main social attitudes.
I agree that people have been controlled by others (in ways that both enrich and destroy civilizations).… but what makes human kind is the ability to choose… But to belief in systems so “unselective” of human perception and (as a result), human behavior…. no…
I don’t call this “expert” article “educational” but “entertaining”... but very close to a future " Control and manipulation", as you said.
Looks like this is some sort of brand new secret knowledge of “wake up world” we are the “sheep?”. ..better start believing in the conspiracies theory about mind control.
of course, the media will not help, by only showing the most sensational of stories. And the side of the story shown must be in accordance with the main social attitudes.
I agree that people have been controlled by others (in ways that both enrich and destroy civilizations).… but what makes human kind is the ability to choose… But to belief in systems so “unselective” of human perception and (as a result), human behavior…. no…
I don’t call this “expert” article “educational” but “entertaining”... but very close to a future " Control and manipulation", as you said.
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joyaepace: May be, there are cliques in schools and some of them can be mean, but will the attempt to keep children's relationships superficial help against cliques and bullying? Doubt it. These cliques are not friendships but power groups with leaders and followers. There is a big difference and it can not be useful to eradicate friendships along with power relationships.
Yes, you're right, they are exactly that - power groups.
Which is exactly why the ostracised need their besties.
It'll probably exacerbate the bullying as the cliques will have to make a point of not wanting to sit next to the bullied child by being even more bullying and even more loyal to the clique.
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joyaepace: I had a boy best friend when I was not going to school yet. He was a bit older than me. Can't remember what we were talking about. I remember him bringing me books as he was that type of nerdy guy who always read. I could read before the school, so we probably talked about the books and he took me on his bicycle, which was great fun.
Memories like these are so precious.
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Bogart_1960: What do these “experts” think society is composed of anyways? like no more close chosen groups/friends.. what is next family?
Looks like this is some sort of brand new secret knowledge of “wake up world” we are the “sheep?”. ..better start believing in the conspiracies theory about mind control.
of course, the media will not help, by only showing the most sensational of stories. And the side of the story shown must be in accordance with the main social attitudes.
I agree that people have been controlled by others (in ways that both enrich and destroy civilizations).… but what makes human kind is the ability to choose… But to belief in systems so “unselective” of human perception and (as a result), human behavior…. no…
I don’t call this “expert” article “educational” but “entertaining”... but very close to a future " Control and manipulation", as you said.
Looks like this is some sort of brand new secret knowledge of “wake up world” we are the “sheep?”. ..better start believing in the conspiracies theory about mind control.
of course, the media will not help, by only showing the most sensational of stories. And the side of the story shown must be in accordance with the main social attitudes.
I agree that people have been controlled by others (in ways that both enrich and destroy civilizations).… but what makes human kind is the ability to choose… But to belief in systems so “unselective” of human perception and (as a result), human behavior…. no…
I don’t call this “expert” article “educational” but “entertaining”... but very close to a future " Control and manipulation", as you said.
This article only describes what is going on. I wonder, is the practice widespread or just beginning and limited to few schools? There must be some 'research' behind the practice. I don't think it is an explicit conspiracy though. Such ideas usually come from the academia and may be traced to particular authors who probably think that theirs are great ideas.
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jac379: Memories like these are so precious.
Heart warming!
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joyaepace: This article only describes what is going on. I wonder, is the practice widespread or just beginning and limited to few schools? There must be some 'research' behind the practice. I don't think it is an explicit conspiracy though. Such ideas usually come from the academia and may be traced to particular authors who probably think that theirs are great ideas.
agree... the interesting part, is the "sensationalism" of the article...as humans respond to information transmitted through verbal, print, and media, and how remarkable media manipulation currently is.... so who knows... maybe some future mind control.
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Bogart_1960: agree... the interesting part, is the "sensationalism" of the article...as humans respond to information transmitted through verbal, print, and media, and how remarkable media manipulation currently is.... so who knows... maybe some future mind control.
Interesting concept. Seeing something in print as being a form of mind control....
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Friends are overrated.
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Bogart_1960: agree... the interesting part, is the "sensationalism" of the article...as humans respond to information transmitted through verbal, print, and media, and how remarkable media manipulation currently is.... so who knows... maybe some future mind control.
It is mind control, whether the authors of the idea intend it or not. It could be that there are different ideas coming from academia, but the education departments chose which should be implemented and which not.
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Kaybee50: Interesting concept. Seeing something in print as being a form of mind control....
well...sometimes writing shows some different controlled mind
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MrRick77: Friends are overrated.
I agree friends with adults is overrated but as a child I didn't have any friends, least not a best friend and I really wanted on.
My family lived on a street with all "black" people. We got along with them but when it was found out at elementary and high school that I lived with....they said the N word, I was a cast out.
I think children should have at least one BFF for times when they don't want to tell mommy and daddy something that is on their mind.
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joyaepace: "A head teacher of a leading primary school has said young children should not have best friends because it could leave others feeling ostracised and hurt...
parents of children at a private day school in south-west London have been told it's not good for their offspring to have best friends...
Instead they should be encouraged to have "lots of good friends" to avoid overly possessive relationships and upsetting fall-outs, head teacher Ben Thomas was quoted by the Daily Telegraph as saying".
I find this idea upsetting for few reasons. Firstly, I think it will create a generation of people who are unattached, superficial and indifferent to others since they will never learn closeness and intimacy. Secondly, learning intimacy may be a basis for relationships later in life. When all people are same to you, how are you supposed to stay with one person? Thirdly, close relationships give a feeling of security. I, for example, did not have many friends and never wanted to have them, but was quite happy to have one at a time. Did anyone feel excluded because of that? Don't think so. If I was not allowed to have a friend, how lonely would my school life be? Why should a child be deprived of a friend if a child is not the outgoing type liking to have lots of friends?
And how are they going to terminate the forming friendships? I know that in my nephews' school here in Ireland children are 'rotated' to sit with different children all the time possibly for the same reasons. They still have friends though. Are the teachers to intervene in pupil's relationships even further? How far? Am I old fashioned or what, but this idea seems scary to me. Control and manipulation rather than education in my opinion. What do you think? There is a link if somebody wants to read the article.
parents of children at a private day school in south-west London have been told it's not good for their offspring to have best friends...
Instead they should be encouraged to have "lots of good friends" to avoid overly possessive relationships and upsetting fall-outs, head teacher Ben Thomas was quoted by the Daily Telegraph as saying".
I find this idea upsetting for few reasons. Firstly, I think it will create a generation of people who are unattached, superficial and indifferent to others since they will never learn closeness and intimacy. Secondly, learning intimacy may be a basis for relationships later in life. When all people are same to you, how are you supposed to stay with one person? Thirdly, close relationships give a feeling of security. I, for example, did not have many friends and never wanted to have them, but was quite happy to have one at a time. Did anyone feel excluded because of that? Don't think so. If I was not allowed to have a friend, how lonely would my school life be? Why should a child be deprived of a friend if a child is not the outgoing type liking to have lots of friends?
And how are they going to terminate the forming friendships? I know that in my nephews' school here in Ireland children are 'rotated' to sit with different children all the time possibly for the same reasons. They still have friends though. Are the teachers to intervene in pupil's relationships even further? How far? Am I old fashioned or what, but this idea seems scary to me. Control and manipulation rather than education in my opinion. What do you think? There is a link if somebody wants to read the article.
I think everyone needs a best friend.
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MrRick77: Friends are overrated.
Quite a telling and sad statement. Have you been let down by friends or always found it difficult to make any? It goes a long way to explaining why you have such difficulty interacting with people.
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joyaepace: I had a boy best friend when I was not going to school yet. He was a bit older than me. Can't remember what we were talking about. I remember him bringing me books as he was that type of nerdy guy who always read. I could read before the school, so we probably talked about the books and he took me on his bicycle, which was great fun.
He probably had an agenda.
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StillOfTheNight: I would hate to think of what the world would be if children could not have best friends.
I agree with you at 100% ! I sure would hate such a world too ! please people don't put diktats on everything, it's so wonderful to have best friends when you're a child ! i have kept a very few ones for a life time !
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Oh what a sad world if we don´t have "special" friends. I have had various throughout my life. Some I have maintained, but, unfortunately, some have grown away. Having lots of friends is wonderful too, but, those "special" people are very important. It´s the sharing of yourself that is cathartic.
Why do you think everyone looks for their soulmate??? Well, at least......they SAY they´re looking for them.
Why do you think everyone looks for their soulmate??? Well, at least......they SAY they´re looking for them.
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MADDOG69: He probably had an agenda.
Some people are just good without agenda.
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joyaepace: "A head teacher of a leading primary school has said young children should not have best friends because it could leave others feeling ostracised and hurt...
parents of children at a private day school in south-west London have been told it's not good for their offspring to have best friends...
Instead they should be encouraged to have "lots of good friends" to avoid overly possessive relationships and upsetting fall-outs, head teacher Ben Thomas was quoted by the Daily Telegraph as saying".
I find this idea upsetting for few reasons. Firstly, I think it will create a generation of people who are unattached, superficial and indifferent to others since they will never learn closeness and intimacy. Secondly, learning intimacy may be a basis for relationships later in life. When all people are same to you, how are you supposed to stay with one person? Thirdly, close relationships give a feeling of security. I, for example, did not have many friends and never wanted to have them, but was quite happy to have one at a time. Did anyone feel excluded because of that? Don't think so. If I was not allowed to have a friend, how lonely would my school life be? Why should a child be deprived of a friend if a child is not the outgoing type liking to have lots of friends?
And how are they going to terminate the forming friendships? I know that in my nephews' school here in Ireland children are 'rotated' to sit with different children all the time possibly for the same reasons. They still have friends though. Are the teachers to intervene in pupil's relationships even further? How far? Am I old fashioned or what, but this idea seems scary to me. Control and manipulation rather than education in my opinion. What do you think? There is a link if somebody wants to read the article.
How old was that Head teacher ?what colour Vra does she wear ?parents of children at a private day school in south-west London have been told it's not good for their offspring to have best friends...
Instead they should be encouraged to have "lots of good friends" to avoid overly possessive relationships and upsetting fall-outs, head teacher Ben Thomas was quoted by the Daily Telegraph as saying".
I find this idea upsetting for few reasons. Firstly, I think it will create a generation of people who are unattached, superficial and indifferent to others since they will never learn closeness and intimacy. Secondly, learning intimacy may be a basis for relationships later in life. When all people are same to you, how are you supposed to stay with one person? Thirdly, close relationships give a feeling of security. I, for example, did not have many friends and never wanted to have them, but was quite happy to have one at a time. Did anyone feel excluded because of that? Don't think so. If I was not allowed to have a friend, how lonely would my school life be? Why should a child be deprived of a friend if a child is not the outgoing type liking to have lots of friends?
And how are they going to terminate the forming friendships? I know that in my nephews' school here in Ireland children are 'rotated' to sit with different children all the time possibly for the same reasons. They still have friends though. Are the teachers to intervene in pupil's relationships even further? How far? Am I old fashioned or what, but this idea seems scary to me. Control and manipulation rather than education in my opinion. What do you think? There is a link if somebody wants to read the article.
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The irony is, the best friend scenario is the thing that works well for us oddballs - we just need an oddball and we're happy with that. I never had any desire to be in the 'in crowd' and most of my oddball friends over the years have been awesome.
Sometimes us oddballs gravitated into groups of oddballs quite naturally and comfortably. They were good times.
May be, there are cliques in schools and some of them can be mean, but will the attempt to keep children's relationships superficial help against cliques and bullying? Doubt it. These cliques are not friendships but power groups with leaders and followers. There is a big difference and it can not be useful to eradicate friendships along with power relationships.