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rohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 PostsA few years ago a nurse practitioner I worked with and I were having a lively discussion about workplace dynamics. She told me that every group (as in employees at a hospital) have this funky thing going on where one is a tattler, one is a victim, one is an aggressor, one is a loner, something like that. I can't find any reference to this phenomenon, but having worked in this arena for over 30 years I do believe there's merit to this observation. Does anyone know what this is called, say in psychological terms, and if it is indeed a known aspect of "groups"? Thanks
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You almost said it... 'Group Dynamics'
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bad cop, good cop
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sophiasummer: bad cop, good cop
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I knew a long time ago this game. To make maters worse Im unionized 
Even some coworkers remarked how I seem to get all the bad apprentices. No worries Im very close to retirement
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open2it: Interesting. Although it's my preference to work with a partner, I want to choose the partner. It also happens that I work very well alone. So when I'm in a group situation, I tend to be a loner/observer... because I really don't like the social and political "games" that happen in groups.
Soooo you want to work alone, yet choose your partner? Soooo are you not comfortable? within your work space?
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sophiasummer: So you will take on more hard work than sharing it?
For now, yes. I met a student teacher I'd like to work with. She doesn't graduate until next year. I keep in touch with her because I think she'd be a good match. We'll see what happens.
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chatonlyman2: Could you be possibly in the lets cut a job trap that is very much a trend. Work softly
No, my job has only been done single-handedly in the county I'm in. We've had some growth. There is an indication that the growth will continue. At some point, I will need help. They offered me help, but I'm not ready.... because I haven't found someone who is a good fit and currently available to work with me. It will be a growth position when it happens: assuming it happens.------ This thread is Archived ------
open2it: For now, yes. I met a student teacher I'd like to work with. She doesn't graduate until next year. I keep in touch with her because I think she'd be a good match. We'll see what happens.
What line of work are in?
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sophiasummer: What line of work are in?
I'm a teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL/ESL). But I hold an unusual position. I am the sole ESOL teacher for an entire rural county. So I travel from site to site to assess students who come from other language backgrounds and to serve the students who qualify for ESOL/ESL services under federal guidelines.
Last year I had six schools until April; then I got a seventh school. Eight would be almost impossible for one person to manage effectively.
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open2it: I'm a teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL/ESL). But I hold an unusual position. I am the sole ESOL teacher for an entire rural county. So I travel from site to site to assess students who come from other language backgrounds and to serve the students who qualify for ESOL/ESL services under federal guidelines.
Last year I had six schools until April; then I got a seventh school. Eight would be almost impossible for one person to manage effectively.
Last year I had six schools until April; then I got a seventh school. Eight would be almost impossible for one person to manage effectively.
I'm impressed, indeed! site to site? you travel much overseas? or do you sweep yourself within the many cultures of USA? That's brilliant!
What are the Federal Guidelines?
Why is it so hard for you to see others that want to share the English language. To teach as you do?
Regards
Sophie
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sophiasummer: I'm impressed, indeed! site to site? you travel much overseas? or do you sweep yourself within the many cultures of USA? That's brilliant!
What are the Federal Guidelines?
Why is it so hard for you to see others that want to share the English language. To teach as you do?
Regards
Sophie
What are the Federal Guidelines?
Why is it so hard for you to see others that want to share the English language. To teach as you do?
Regards
Sophie
I don't want to dominate the thread talking about my work. But I would be happy to answer your questions as best I can if you would like to email me.
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open2it: I don't want to dominate the thread talking about my work. But I would be happy to answer your questions as best I can if you would like to email me.
That's cool, Just passing by, no domination intended.
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I work by myself going from place to place doing repairs so pretty much all of my interactions are one on one...but annoying as the whole Group Dynamics thing can be sometimes...being a people watchet I kind of miss it sometimes 
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rohaan: A few years ago a nurse practitioner I worked with and I were having a lively discussion about workplace dynamics. She told me that every group (as in employees at a hospital) have this funky thing going on where one is a tattler, one is a victim, one is an aggressor, one is a loner, something like that. I can't find any reference to this phenomenon, but having worked in this arena for over 30 years I do believe there's merit to this observation. Does anyone know what this is called, say in psychological terms, and if it is indeed a known aspect of "groups"? Thanks
Perhaps its predictable because the analysis of the group dynamic specifically utilises archetypes, or stereotypes?
Its not that there is the wacky phenomenon of particular types repeatedly gathering together in a fixed format, its that we can stereotypically wedge people into the roles as long as we don't pay too much attention to individual differences, or needs.
It has a very limited role in analysing group dynamics positively and will probably lead to faulty, shallow and unproductive analysis in the long run.
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rohaan: A few years ago a nurse practitioner I worked with and I were having a lively discussion about workplace dynamics. She told me that every group (as in employees at a hospital) have this funky thing going on where one is a tattler, one is a victim, one is an aggressor, one is a loner, something like that. I can't find any reference to this phenomenon, but having worked in this arena for over 30 years I do believe there's merit to this observation. Does anyone know what this is called, say in psychological terms, and if it is indeed a known aspect of "groups"? Thanks
Just like CS then
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jac379: Perhaps its predictable because the analysis of the group dynamic specifically utilises archetypes, or stereotypes?
Its not that there is the wacky phenomenon of particular types repeatedly gathering together in a fixed format, its that we can stereotypically wedge people into the roles as long as we don't pay too much attention to individual differences, or needs.
It has a very limited role in analysing group dynamics positively and will probably lead to faulty, shallow and unproductive analysis in the long run.
Its not that there is the wacky phenomenon of particular types repeatedly gathering together in a fixed format, its that we can stereotypically wedge people into the roles as long as we don't pay too much attention to individual differences, or needs.
It has a very limited role in analysing group dynamics positively and will probably lead to faulty, shallow and unproductive analysis in the long run.
Yay I feel not silly being alone, no wedge shall come between me and me.
Hey Jac
very cool!
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It occurrs to me how convenient it would be to stuff someone
we're having trouble with into one of these roles.
It's not my fault she feels like I'm bullying her, she's just a victim type.
I'm not excluding him from the group, he's just a loner.
What I did wasn't dangerous or irresponsible, she's just a tattler.
we're having trouble with into one of these roles.
It's not my fault she feels like I'm bullying her, she's just a victim type.
I'm not excluding him from the group, he's just a loner.
What I did wasn't dangerous or irresponsible, she's just a tattler.
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sophiasummer: Yay I feel not silly being alone, no wedge shall come between me and me.
Hey Jac
very cool!
Hey Jac
very cool!
“I do my thing, and you do your thing. I am not in this world to live up to your expectations, and you are not in this world to live up to mine. You are you, and I am I, and if by chance we find each other, it’s beautiful.” ~ Frederick. E. Perl
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Ocee102: It occurrs to me how convenient it would be to stuff someone
we're having trouble with into one of these roles.
It's not my fault she feels like I'm bullying her, she's just a victim type.
I'm not excluding him from the group, he's just a loner.
What I did wasn't dangerous or irresponsible, she's just a tattler.
we're having trouble with into one of these roles.
It's not my fault she feels like I'm bullying her, she's just a victim type.
I'm not excluding him from the group, he's just a loner.
What I did wasn't dangerous or irresponsible, she's just a tattler.
Its not that she disagrees with me, she's just an aggressor.
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