rohaan: Hello lovie, hope you are well. (Ooby is one of my faves, and a really, really nice and caring man, so it is natural I want to defend his side).
I know it wasn't meant for me but rohaann as much I respect your opinions from time to time I didn't realize anyone needed to be defended here.
Ccincy: I know it wasn't meant for me but rohaann as much I respect your opinions from time to time I didn't realize anyone needed to be defended here.
My bad. I should have put it another way. I agree with Ooby that banning is low-brow and cowardly. That's all.
rohaan: Hello lovie, hope you are well. (Ooby is one of my faves, and a really, really nice and caring man, so it is natural I want to defend his side).
I am on top of the world. In the midst of organising my daughters 21st party for next weekend, cant wait.
rohaan: Hello lovie, hope you are well. (Ooby is one of my faves, and a really, really nice and caring man, so it is natural I want to defend his side).
You know, you're right. I should want to because of the dislike of the banning, not because I like Ooby. We must be sure our reasons are noble. "To thine own self be true". (I happen to agree with him, btw.)
rohaan: You know, you're right. I should want to because of the dislike of the banning, not because I like Ooby. We must be sure our reasons are noble. "To thine own self be true". (I happen to agree with him, btw.)
rohaan: My bad. I should have put it another way. I agree with Ooby that banning is low-brow and cowardly. That's all.
But ro the owner(s) of this site are the ones who put those options in place for ALL members to use. I just knew that some people who may not like someone for one reason or another may misuse those options.
I've been on plenty of hunting and fishing sites where the volunteers who monitor those kinds of sites have it in for someone and close/lock that persons threads.
What I don't understand is why don't people who have the problem with the options contact the owner(s)in the first place.
janie1305Southampton, Hampshire, England UK916 posts
Hi Tom. All these changes enabling people to ban members or hide their posts were brought in during my long absence from CS. I actually have no idea how to do it. Having said that, I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to use this option. I suppose if someone was being overly crude or insulting, then banning them may be a last resort, but quite frankly when someone is acting in such a way, generally he or she is "beaten into submission" by other members collectively.
My view is that a thread or poll once posted is "owned" by everybody. I seem to remember a few years ago a moderator saying something along those lines anyway. What is the point of posting something if opposing opinions or comments are not welcome or respected?
janie1305: Hi Tom. All these changes enabling people to ban members or hide their posts were brought in during my long absence from CS. I actually have no idea how to do it. Having said that, I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to use this option. I suppose if someone was being overly crude or insulting, then banning them may be a last resort, but quite frankly when someone is acting in such a way, generally he or she is "beaten into submission" by other members collectively.
My view is that a thread or poll once posted is "owned" by everybody. I seem to remember a few years ago a moderator saying something along those lines anyway. What is the point of posting something if opposing opinions or comments are not welcome or respected?
Hi Jan, The thread originator is the only one who can ban somebody. If you start a thread you will see a big button appear under everybodies post. Just click on it and poof they can't post again in your thread unless you UNban them. I've banned a few people in my life, mostly trolls and bible thumpers who copy and post pages of gospel or really nasty people who get insulting. I don't ban dumbasses because I think it's best to let them speak and self destruct. The bit about hiding threads I think has the opposite effect by drawing attention to it. If you want to be sure everybody reads what you have to say, just hide it. Human nature will assure that it gets read.
janie1305Southampton, Hampshire, England UK916 posts
ooby_dooby: Hi Jan, The thread originator is the only one who can ban somebody. If you start a thread you will see a big button appear under everybodies post. Just click on it and poof they can't post again in your thread unless you UNban them. I've banned a few people in my life, mostly trolls and bible thumpers who copy and post pages of gospel or really nasty people who get insulting. I don't ban dumbasses because I think it's best to let them speak and self destruct. The bit about hiding threads I think has the opposite effect by drawing attention to it. If you want to be sure everybody reads what you have to say, just hide it. Human nature will assure that it gets read.
And even more revealing is the fact that some people continue to post in a thread where so many members have been banned for voicing their opinions in a non controversial manner.
ooby_dooby: Hi Jan, The thread originator is the only one who can ban somebody. If you start a thread you will see a big button appear under everybodies post. Just click on it and poof they can't post again in your thread unless you UNban them. I've banned a few people in my life, mostly trolls and bible thumpers who copy and post pages of gospel or really nasty people who get insulting. I don't ban dumbasses because I think it's best to let them speak and self destruct. The bit about hiding threads I think has the opposite effect by drawing attention to it. If you want to be sure everybody reads what you have to say, just hide it. Human nature will assure that it gets read.
Oh, so they post something that goes against your belief or opinion and it's ok for you to ban them. But it happens to you and you whine and make a thread about it. How hypocritical of you
jac379: I have a habit of clicking on things I have no intention of clicking on, religion centred dating sites included.
I'm always a bit paranoid I'll ban someone by accident and I'd like to think that if I did, that person would drop me a line to let me know if it appeared I'd done it randomly.
Really, on the very rare occasion it might be prudent to ban someone, it would be reasonable to make a statement that you have and why you have.
random banning......... now there's an idea.............. gotta love it....
ooby_dooby: It seems to me that just because I voiced an opinion counter to what the poll creator holds that I was banned from his poll in spite of the fact that I hadn't even said word one to him. All I did was respond to another person who posted to the thread. Subsequently, I am unable to answer any comments directed toward me including addressing certain posters who felt it was necessary to mock on my screen name. So now people can attack me and I can't even defend myself. Is this the American way? If a person is so insecure as to ban someone for holding an opposite opinion from him, that person is truly a coward.
I feel your pain - it has happened to me too - I just don't comment on the polls that has an OP that does that -
and did you make that comment because the OP is american? cause I thought the polls were international?
Ccincy: But ro the owner(s) of this site are the ones who put those options in place for ALL members to use. I just knew that some people who may not like someone for one reason or another may misuse those options.
I've been on plenty of hunting and fishing sites where the volunteers who monitor those kinds of sites have it in for someone and close/lock that persons threads.
What I don't understand is why don't people who have the problem with the options contact the owner(s)in the first place.
I hear what you are saying. Please understand how I "roll" on these kinds of things: One of my very favorite employers had a policy that communication needed to be completely transparent. Before making a complaint about a co-worker, you had to prove with one hundred per cent effort that you had made a sterling attempt to resolve the issue WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL, and under no circumstances would the company allow a formal complaint to be made/filed while giving the reporting person anonymity. Dang I loved that company! (One of a kind..) There is nothing wrong with calling a coward on their feet. In fact, I recommend it. Just because the site allows thread banning does not mean I, or anyone else, can't tell the person doing it how WE feel about it. Hope this helps you see the world a bit through someone else's eyes, and if and when I hire employees, I will include those same policies and procedures as that very wise employer did for our team. By the way--there were very few squabbles. People learned to get along because they were prodded to graduate from kindergarten to adulthood. It solved a great many problems, and prevented many, as well.
janie1305: Hi Tom. All these changes enabling people to ban members or hide their posts were brought in during my long absence from CS. I actually have no idea how to do it. Having said that, I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to use this option. I suppose if someone was being overly crude or insulting, then banning them may be a last resort, but quite frankly when someone is acting in such a way, generally he or she is "beaten into submission" by other members collectively.
My view is that a thread or poll once posted is "owned" by everybody. I seem to remember a few years ago a moderator saying something along those lines anyway. What is the point of posting something if opposing opinions or comments are not welcome or respected?
Owned by everyone.... Nonsense...
And an Opposing view is one thing, you are correct about this. I've always tried and welcomed that in any thread or poll Ive created. However, that is not what lead to hypocrite ooby being banned in my stupid poll. had he appologized, i would have lifted the ban. nothing difficult. Instead he went whining to everyone, instead of emailing me.
Hypocrite oob posted way off-topic and he knows it. What a whiner. Many in agreement with oob evidently don't realize that the Ban button is a self-moderation tool. Imagine how your instructor in any credited school would tolerate someone always going off- topic in class with a defined topic or insulting the instructor or others. That violator would be out of their or probably get a flunking grade.
By the way I call oob, a hypocrite because he has banned others and he openly admits it here. He can't see the forest for the trees. His post is no different than a trolls post since it is off-topic.
And btw, anyone, if you need to discuss off-topic, and your aren't blocked, why don't you use another media provided on CS, like email? If that doesn't work for you, why not start your own thread or post to discuss your topic of interest?
I wasn't wrong in using the ban feature. I am glad now I did it for more reasons.
I haven't seen this crude PAC-attack mentality since I first joined CS, and it is sad to see. I never thought so many people would go off on me like this without reviewing the complaint. I opened up the possibility for CS members to do this by making it clear in this thread who oob was talking it about.
I have other feelings about this pac-attack mindset but suffice for me.... any sympathizer of oob, or intolerant of moderator tools, go fly a kite.
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I know it wasn't meant for me but rohaann as much I respect your opinions from time to time I didn't realize anyone needed to be defended here.