why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland (100)

Jan 26, 2014 4:26 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
dublin7love
dublin7lovedublin7loveDublin, Ireland39 Posts
Because no one are prosecuted and never will be. They have to much dirt on each other in order to be able to prosecute. It would be like throwing stones in a glass house (all involved would get hurt.
Jan 26, 2014 4:27 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
weirderpgoy
weirderpgoyweirderpgoydublin, Dublin Ireland1 Threads 20 Posts
snowlynx: Silence!.. Women should be seen and not heard!
u should go live on a island of the galway coast ud be safe there
Jan 26, 2014 4:29 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
weirderpgoy
weirderpgoyweirderpgoydublin, Dublin Ireland1 Threads 20 Posts
fifitrixibelle: Thats what you said last time you gagged me & handcuffed me to the bed
u never done that with me hun id haved loved it
Jan 26, 2014 4:31 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
weirderpgoy
weirderpgoyweirderpgoydublin, Dublin Ireland1 Threads 20 Posts
dublin7love: Because no one are prosecuted and never will be. They have to much dirt on each other in order to be able to prosecute. It would be like throwing stones in a glass house (all involved would get hurt.
weve got our chance in may to teach FG;LAB a lesson DONT MISS IT
Jan 26, 2014 4:58 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
weirderpgoy: weve got our chance in may to teach FG;LAB a lesson DONT MISS IT


You're still on level one thinking. No matter who you vote for the government always wins. The only way for us to win is not to play. Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee, it makes no difference.
Jan 26, 2014 5:04 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
weirderpgoy
weirderpgoyweirderpgoydublin, Dublin Ireland1 Threads 20 Posts
facetowardsfront: You're still on level one thinking. No matter who you vote for the government always wins. The only way for us to win is not to play. Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee, it makes no difference.
go out and make a protest vote
Jan 26, 2014 5:12 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
weirderpgoy: go out and make a protest vote

What are you suggesting there, Ted? A Popular Revolution? Guillotines? Make the Liffey flow red? laugh
Jan 26, 2014 5:18 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
weirderpgoy
weirderpgoyweirderpgoydublin, Dublin Ireland1 Threads 20 Posts
MADDOG69: What are you suggesting there, Ted? A Popular Revolution? Guillotines? Make the Liffey flow red?
dont have to anything like that pal theres the power of the ballot box
Jan 26, 2014 5:42 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
weirderpgoy: go out and make a protest vote


A protest vote is still a vote and for every 20,000 votes or so, depending on the constituency, a politician gets his or her wings. I think the people who vote should bring the money to pay their share of the politicians wages and pension with them when they go to vote. Don't forget the advisers and staff you are voting to employ too. It would only probably work out at 40 or 50 thousand euro and I'm sure you could pay in installments. But no, I guess the rest of us have to pay for the stupidity of the people who keep the political merry go round spinning doh
Jan 27, 2014 8:06 AM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
weirderpgoy: every day brings more scandal last week it was the central remedial clinic and the pay off to its CEO this week its irish water and the blank chequebooks of its bosses and the scandelous bonuses paid to them and all the TAOISACH can say is he dident know



Ireland has always been that way. FF have always been a jobs for the friends and family type of party. FG have always been jobs for friends and old school tie chums party. Labour are run and always have been run by middle class white haired men in grey suits who tell people they will fight for them, but as soon as they get into government they look after themselves.

We have no real choice in Ireland as far and left and right is concerned. All parties are run by people who look after their cronies by setting up quango after quango. They all basically have the same view of looking after the rich and then maybe a few Euro will trickle down to those who are in desperate need.
Our police force is one of the most corrupt in the world and they investigate themselves. The ombudsman has no authority of the Garda commissioner, which is so stupid it's unbelievable. doh

I could go on forever. It's a banana republic and we are a joke to the rest of the world.
Jan 27, 2014 4:26 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
I know you have to have abit of humour to lighten things... but why does everything have to come back to personal attack ? I find some of the comments here really annoying.... people trying to be funny and having a laugh. The Economy and the fact that 2 generations will still be paying off the excesses and depravity of our Govt. and their Banking cronies and Building cronies and all the appalling apartments built with migrant workers [mainly ukraine and polish men ]. HAHA great fun.... until you have to go into hospital like I did, bring in your own medicines as in painkillers [because of cutbacks] come in to the hospital in an ambulance and yet wait 3 days on a Trolley before Scans are taken.
Then wait another year before you actually get the operation [thanks to myself for going online/Tv] Dont want to get too personal. It is no laughing matter.
People seem to change when they get into power. I dont believe FF and SinnFein will get in, too many recent exposures about their highlife whilst in New York, whooping it up in best of hotels, dont think that went down with the Comrades..... nope we need fresh blood.
Jan 27, 2014 4:34 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
goldengloss: I know you have to have abit of humour to lighten things... but why does everything have to come back to personal attack ? I find some of the comments here really annoying.... people trying to be funny and having a laugh. The Economy and the fact that 2 generations will still be paying off the excesses and depravity of our Govt. and their Banking cronies and Building cronies and all the appalling apartments built with migrant workers [mainly ukraine and polish men ]. HAHA great fun.... until you have to go into hospital like I did, bring in your own medicines as in painkillers [because of cutbacks] come in to the hospital in an ambulance and yet wait 3 days on a Trolley before Scans are taken.
Then wait another year before you actually get the operation [thanks to myself for going online/Tv] Dont want to get too personal. It is no laughing matter.
People seem to change when they get into power. I dont believe FF and SinnFein will get in, too many recent exposures about their highlife whilst in New York, whooping it up in best of hotels, dont think that went down with the Comrades..... nope we need fresh blood.


Put yourself forward GG, you will have my support.
Jan 27, 2014 5:01 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
Sofarsogood74 Well said ! I agree with you totally. What really upsets me is that the most vulnerable, the elderly,children with disabilities, cutbacks for carers of children with disabilities, etc., etc., the quangos [already mentioned] in HSE [one of the most ineffective cash guzzling middle man orientated organisations], I think FF, Labour [whom I voted for and indeed was a member of, Finegael, have just become puppets to Germany. As somebody has already said in this forum, we are a laughing stock. Where else would blatant criminal Top Bankers etc., be paid for the debacle they created? and paid to ride happily into the sunset, it is perverse and yes Apathy is at the core. Where did we learn to be apathethic? Who taught us to be subservient? The Brits have been gone a long time now. So the blame game doesnt do us any favours
Jan 27, 2014 5:17 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
goldengloss: Where did we learn to be apathethic? Who taught us to be subservient?


The State education system - Sit down, be quiet, where's your homework, be a good girl, don't cause trouble, don't be a tattle-tale, sit up straight, do what your told, know your place, respect your betters.....


The whole thing is getting your brainwashed into accepting there are those in authority and those who obey without whimper. They know best. They can take care of everyone. You just need to shut up and do what your told. Repeat what they say and you get rewarded with approval, don't and you get humiliated.


We don't need a different government to 'take care of the old and the vulnerable'. We need NO government. It's a pity people are so brainwashed into thinking that voting a different bunch of liars into power will make any difference.

Wake up sheeple.
Jan 27, 2014 6:19 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
The next Election is for European only. Not a general election. Forgive me if I am wrong. unfortunately it would be a great pleasure to kick out the present crew but they aren't worried they will retire [should they wish] with a large pension.... yes, those who wore the Red Rose and used phrases like 'Labours way or .....' and Comrades, and we will stop the cronyism of Fine Fail.
Jan 27, 2014 6:25 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
Hi FacetowardsFront, I agree with what you say about the Education system and the brainwashing that takes place in our school system, and the sit up, be good etc., however I dont think that Anarcy is the answer either. There are at least a dozen good people [not politicians] who could run this country. Get rid of Quangos, run it like a business, put Agriculture back to where it should be and stop bending and bowing to Germany. We survived before them. As for Sheepie. Doh !I have been a militant political animal all my life and never a yes woman. However, being of a certain age, I am being honest when I say, i am totally disallusioned with all parties, people change when they get power and privilidge.
The worst seem to be the Socialist parties. Green party was a joke, an embarrassment, Mary Harney did more for the Air pollution in the 80s than Greens ever did. Again, look to Iceland.... people power. I'm here waiting but apathy reigns as ive already said. People are prepared to be walked on.
Jan 28, 2014 9:32 AM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
If Sinn Fein got rid of Adams they would actually do far better in the next general election, I wouldn't vote for them in a billion years as I believe they still have a substantial minority of members who fall into the category of scumbags.

There policies will also come under a lot of media scrutiny in the run up to the next general election, Pearse Doherty is a know nothing populist who has lided about his educational qualifications. If Mary Lou McDonald became leader they may get quite a bit of middle class support because at the moment most middle class voters find SF toxic under Adams continued leadership.
Jan 28, 2014 9:38 AM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
kennyfromdublin: If Sinn Fein got rid of Adams they would actually do far better in the next general election, I wouldn't vote for them in a billion years as I believe they still have a substantial minority of members who fall into the category of scumbags.

There policies will also come under a lot of media scrutiny in the run up to the next general election, Pearse Doherty is a know nothing populist who has lided about his educational qualifications. If Mary Lou McDonald became leader they may get quite a bit of middle class support because at the moment most middle class voters find SF toxic under Adams continued leadership.


If the last few years has shown us anything, it has shown us ALL parties have scumbag members!

But I wouldn't vote for Sinn Fein either simply because of things they were involved in up North.
Jan 28, 2014 9:40 AM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
kennyfromdublin: If Sinn Fein got rid of Adams they would actually do far better in the next general election, I wouldn't vote for them in a billion years as I believe they still have a substantial minority of members who fall into the category of scumbags.

There policies will also come under a lot of media scrutiny in the run up to the next general election, Pearse Doherty is a know nothing populist who has lided about his educational qualifications. If Mary Lou McDonald became leader they may get quite a bit of middle class support because at the moment most middle class voters find SF toxic under Adams continued leadership.

I wouldn't. May Lou has long reached her plateau as have the other Sinn Feinn members. I see a new fella there, his name escapes me, clean cut guy young with glasses... a few more of them would make them more appealing. I still won't vote for them. They are more left than labour although increasingly they've swung a bit right. As have Labour, organically. When I see Gilmore and then think back to his roots with Mac Giolla and the like and all them firebrands, Prionsios De Rossa etc. They sort of betrayed themselves and became Rolex Socialists.
Jan 28, 2014 1:54 PM CST why is there so much corruption in goverment in ireland
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
Ah ! Rolex Socialists I love that phrase !!hug When I was in the Republican side of things [innocent days long time ago] and really believed in Marxism blushing and that these were real freedom fighters, before I understood Communism/State Capitalism etc., I was horrified to see alot of these x members go into the trade union movement and watched in horror as these 'Barstool socialists' drove around in Beemers and had undisclosed salaries[no its not a new phenomena with C.Remedial Clinic] I became dissallusioned with all those who got into power.
With regard Mary Lou. How could you possibly trust somebody who was in the Progressive Democrats and then crossed hedges to Sinn Fein, its like black and white surely ? an appropriate political move as they needed a middle class face.However, she sells herself as being 'for the underclass , the unemployed and against quangos, however recent coverage [including photos] showed her hosting a very posh bash in New York and believe me, Sinn Fein know how to cream off the political Petty cash box too. i think it is an insult to think the middle class have been fooled by Mary Lou, to me anyway, she is transparent, Gerry has his Bolthole in Donegal where he can retire to with his pension. Gawd it gets worse.
Agree with writer about Pearse Doherty.
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