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Feb 9, 2014 2:55 PM CST The Key
Conrad73: When you are in love, it means that the person you love is of great personal, selfish importance to you and to your life. If you were selfless, it would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person.

Playboy Interview: Ayn Rand
Playboy, March 1964

Men have been taught that the ego is the synonym of evil, and selflessness the ideal of virtue. But the creator is the egoist in the absolute sense, and the selfless man is the one who does not think, feel, judge or act. These are functions of the self.

For the New Intellectual

“The Soul of an Individualist



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Feb 9, 2014 3:02 PM CST The Key
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
unlaoised: Am I the only one seeing the irony of this thread? Someone on a dating site, sprouting relationship advice?





In another month or two I won't be spending as much time on here as much as I was cause that's when my boyfriend and I begin traveling.

You all can have at anyone who gives relationship advice.laugh
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Feb 9, 2014 3:07 PM CST The Key
truheart1941online today!
truheart1941online today!truheart1941brentwood, Essex, England UK83 Threads 1 Polls 25,171 Posts
Ccincy: In another month or two I won't be spending as much time on here as much as I was cause that's when my boyfriend and I begin traveling.

You all can have at anyone who gives relationship advice.
.....what a summer reservation..and totum poles.....rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 9, 2014 3:10 PM CST The Key
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
truheart1941: .....what a summer reservation..and totum poles.....





Well we will be traveling down to the Cherokee Reservation in North Carolina could bring you back a keepsake.laugh
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Feb 9, 2014 3:26 PM CST The Key
truheart1941online today!
truheart1941online today!truheart1941brentwood, Essex, England UK83 Threads 1 Polls 25,171 Posts
Ccincy: Well we will be traveling down to the Cherokee Reservation in North Carolina could bring you back a keepsake.
awwww..how thoughtful....xxxx..a good looking Indian girl...size,,,34.24..34....about 20.....thankyouuuuu.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 9, 2014 3:31 PM CST The Key
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
truheart1941: awwww..how thoughtful....xxxx..a good looking Indian girl...size,,,34.24..34....about 20.....thankyouuuuu.





One dirty ole woman for one dirty ole man coming right up.rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 9, 2014 3:42 PM CST The Key
OnlySon
OnlySonOnlySonBarrhead, Alberta Canada10 Threads 1 Polls 104 Posts
unlaoised: Am I the only one seeing the irony of this thread? Someone on a dating site, sprouting relationship advice?


Hmmm. So many making judgements about things they know nothing about.

yawn
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Feb 9, 2014 3:48 PM CST The Key
2girlsnocup
2girlsnocup2girlsnocupunknown, Greater London, England UK28 Threads 1 Polls 2,621 Posts
OnlySon: Hmmm. So many making judgements about things they know nothing about.


Hang around. There's another person you'd like who does a lot of that laugh
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Feb 9, 2014 5:01 PM CST The Key
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
OnlySon: That is what I just said. A man and woman in a relationship are not two but are one body.


Are you sure it is only one man/one woman?

hmmm

You might need to count again.

mumbling
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Feb 9, 2014 5:03 PM CST The Key
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
OnlySon: Hmmm. So many making judgements about things they know nothing about.


Seems to me, you're the only one here making judgements roll eyes
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Feb 9, 2014 7:06 PM CST The Key
OnlySon
OnlySonOnlySonBarrhead, Alberta Canada10 Threads 1 Polls 104 Posts
2girlsnocup: Hang around. There's another person you'd like who does a lot of that


Sad but true not everyone can be inspired to see past their own nose.
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Feb 10, 2014 2:38 PM CST The Key
OnlySon: Selflessness is the key to any successful relationship.


yawn I'm sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree!

A baby crying in it's mothers arm for a teat is the epitome of selfishness, and survival. Communication is the key.
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Feb 10, 2014 4:07 PM CST The Key
OnlySon
OnlySonOnlySonBarrhead, Alberta Canada10 Threads 1 Polls 104 Posts
CasualCarol: I'm sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree!

A baby crying in it's mothers arm for a teat is the epitome of selfishness, and survival. Communication is the key.


That makes no sense. Communication theory rebuked. yay

Someone else thought because they wanted to be needed their selfishness was love and someone ought love them because they wanted it.

Alas there are those who give and those who take. Selfless love always freely gives expecting no reward or repayment. Oh and it requires no words because....

LOVE IS ALWAYS AN ACTION OF DENYING SELF TO BENEFIT ANOTHER.

doh
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Feb 10, 2014 4:11 PM CST The Key
OnlySon
OnlySonOnlySonBarrhead, Alberta Canada10 Threads 1 Polls 104 Posts
CasualCarol: I'm sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree!

A baby crying in it's mothers arm for a teat is the epitome of selfishness, and survival. Communication is the key.


That makes no sense. Communication theory debunked yay

Someone else thought because they wanted to be needed their selfishness was love and someone ought love them because they wanted it.

Alas there are those who give and those who take. Selfless love always freely gives expecting no reward or repayment. Oh and it requires no words because....

LOVE IS ALWAYS AN ACTION OF DENYING SELF TO BENEFIT ANOTHER.

doh
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Feb 10, 2014 4:23 PM CST The Key
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
OnlySon: That makes no sense. Communication theory debunked

Someone else thought because they wanted to be needed their selfishness was love and someone ought love them because they wanted it.

Alas there are those who give and those who take. Selfless love always freely gives expecting no reward or repayment. Oh and it requires no words because....

LOVE IS ALWAYS AN ACTION OF DENYING SELF TO BENEFIT ANOTHER.

Well, you're getting something out of the self-denial even if that's some idea of self-worth, or doing the right thing, so I suppose that means you're incapable of love.
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Feb 10, 2014 4:32 PM CST The Key
Lesasbre
LesasbreLesasbreHerning, Central Jutland Denmark3 Threads 1 Polls 70 Posts
Conrad73: When you are in love, it means that the person you love is of great personal, selfish importance to you and to your life. If you were selfless, it would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person.

Playboy Interview: Ayn Rand
Playboy, March 1964


Very well said!!
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Feb 10, 2014 4:45 PM CST The Key
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
lifeisadream: Are you sure it is only one man/one woman?



You might need to count again.


Where do "we" place his secretary?
Half his age and the age of our kids.


Should I have brought my mechanic along to fit in?

sigh
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Feb 10, 2014 6:25 PM CST The Key
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
OnlySon: That makes no sense. Communication theory debunked

Someone else thought because they wanted to be needed their selfishness was love and someone ought love them because they wanted it.

Alas there are those who give and those who take. Selfless love always freely gives expecting no reward or repayment. Oh and it requires no words because....

LOVE IS ALWAYS AN ACTION OF DENYING SELF TO BENEFIT ANOTHER.


Don't fool yourself, for almost all of us, everything we do is in our self interest...everything.

There are however the very few amongst us who are capable of agape, sometimes called disinterested love, that is, love wholly invested in the well being of another, without the shadow of self interest lurking beneath the surface...but that is rare.
For most of us we always expect some form of payback, even if we don't realise it.
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Feb 10, 2014 6:30 PM CST The Key
OnlySon
OnlySonOnlySonBarrhead, Alberta Canada10 Threads 1 Polls 104 Posts
jac379: Well, you're getting something out of the self-denial even if that's some idea of self-worth, or doing the right thing, so I suppose that means you're incapable of love.


Hmm. You would not give your life to save your children's?
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Feb 10, 2014 6:34 PM CST The Key
OnlySon
OnlySonOnlySonBarrhead, Alberta Canada10 Threads 1 Polls 104 Posts
Lesasbre: Very well said!!


Love is being needed and you think that's well said?

Lol!!!!

Ask you the same as the last poster... you would not die to protect your wife or children?

Quoting playboy lust as if they have any idea what love is.

rolling on the floor laughing
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