Perfection Exists, Can You See It? (46)
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Attending sculpting classes, I've had live models and I would be a model if asked, not sure I would offer unless it was needed.
I think, generally speaking that artistic types have a different view of beauty.
Historically as I mentioned, art sometimes has the effect of changing cultural norms, which was likely at least part of the reason for the artists work in the video and the resulting manikins.
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montemonte: Funny things is, I have self esteem in things that I'm opinionated about or in the 16 years I was a legal secretary. I even have self esteem and pride in the way I raised my daughter. I'm just hung up on the physical side of my flaws.
Someone close in my life tries to make me think it doesn't matter, but I know it matters greatly to him
Someone close in my life tries to make me think it doesn't matter, but I know it matters greatly to him
Thanks for the honesty monte,
I would think it matters more greatly to him that you find your self esteem with him. The reality is, (assuming we're talking about a S.O.) that he wants you to appreciate you as much as he does. Your missing self esteem says to him that he shouldn't see in you what he does see or that he's wrong about you ...and he can't be wrong or he wouldn't have chosen you. Makes sense?
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Ccincy: I've always been a risk taker so to speak never been scared of challenges.
Well, we're down a teammate, so you're going to have to show off more.
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BB_snickers: Thanks for the honesty monte,
I would think it matters more greatly to him that you find your self esteem with him. The reality is, (assuming we're talking about a S.O.) that he wants you to appreciate you as much as he does. Your missing self esteem says to him that he shouldn't see in you what he does see or that he's wrong about you ...and he can't be wrong or he wouldn't have chosen you. Makes sense?
I would think it matters more greatly to him that you find your self esteem with him. The reality is, (assuming we're talking about a S.O.) that he wants you to appreciate you as much as he does. Your missing self esteem says to him that he shouldn't see in you what he does see or that he's wrong about you ...and he can't be wrong or he wouldn't have chosen you. Makes sense?
I can't respond to this BB. I think you might know why.
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montemonte: I can't respond to this BB. I think you might know why.
No, I'm not party to any gos crowds and I like it that way.
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Perfection is Catherine Deneuve.
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BB_snickers: I think this is more plausible in a classroom session and as a group where all get to find a measure of self pride or esteem in creation or a reflection of self image. It might be that 'art' is a better approach to cultural change? There's certainly historical proof for it.
I'm wondering how much the 'standards' still affect those students (or anyone) beyond singular moments of self appreciation in a class.
Does having that impossible standard relentlessly thrust on us, with media marketing, detract from your ability to maintain self esteem?
I'm wondering how much the 'standards' still affect those students (or anyone) beyond singular moments of self appreciation in a class.
Does having that impossible standard relentlessly thrust on us, with media marketing, detract from your ability to maintain self esteem?
teaching art is about teaching to 'see'. and sometimes that means helping a student to 'see' their own beauty.
i don't find that mass marketing effects my ability to maintain self esteem as much as criticisms or comparisons made by those i have opened my heart to.
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teaching art is about teaching to 'see'. and sometimes that means helping a student to 'see' their own beauty.
i don't find that mass marketing effects my ability to maintain self esteem as much as criticisms or comparisons made by those i have opened my heart to.[/quote]
I like this answer.
i don't find that mass marketing effects my ability to maintain self esteem as much as criticisms or comparisons made by those i have opened my heart to.[/quote]
I like this answer.
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BB_snickers: Your point is well made in saying that one is disabled in fear. How do/did you enable your self through your own fear of others being critical of your father?
Sometimes it is still difficult for me to understand English in the exact sense how it is meant, so I hope the following is an answer to your question :-)
I think I never learned that fear.
In my world, in the world I grew up, everybody is an individual and not comparable. For me it is like a mathematic task that I cannot solve when someone wants me to understand why anybody should be afraid of or feel uncomfortable with a person only because of he or she is different or disabled. I can not feel any distance to a person because of a disability.
My dad talked always with me when people behaved in the mentioned way, and I learned already as a child that it had nothing to do with him, but with their own deficits or disabilities in their souls and minds and hearts and their individual experiences in life.
So self-esteem of a visually disabled person is as normal for me as the self-esteem of any other person.
And it would be normal to see always all kinds of mannequins in the shop windows.
But I´m not sure if I answered your question :-)
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Innocentia00122: Sometimes it is still difficult for me to understand English in the exact sense how it is meant, so I hope the following is an answer to your question :-)
I think I never learned that fear.
In my world, in the world I grew up, everybody is an individual and not comparable. For me it is like a mathematic task that I cannot solve when someone wants me to understand why anybody should be afraid of or feel uncomfortable with a person only because of he or she is different or disabled. I can not feel any distance to a person because of a disability.
My dad talked always with me when people behaved in the mentioned way, and I learned already as a child that it had nothing to do with him, but with their own deficits or disabilities in their souls and minds and hearts and their individual experiences in life.
So self-esteem of a visually disabled person is as normal for me as the self-esteem of any other person.
And it would be normal to see always all kinds of mannequins in the shop windows.
But I´m not sure if I answered your question :-)
I think I never learned that fear.
In my world, in the world I grew up, everybody is an individual and not comparable. For me it is like a mathematic task that I cannot solve when someone wants me to understand why anybody should be afraid of or feel uncomfortable with a person only because of he or she is different or disabled. I can not feel any distance to a person because of a disability.
My dad talked always with me when people behaved in the mentioned way, and I learned already as a child that it had nothing to do with him, but with their own deficits or disabilities in their souls and minds and hearts and their individual experiences in life.
So self-esteem of a visually disabled person is as normal for me as the self-esteem of any other person.
And it would be normal to see always all kinds of mannequins in the shop windows.
But I´m not sure if I answered your question :-)
You answered just fine. Even people who speak the language have difficulty with understanding the sense of things. In fact you may have answered some other posters as well, or at least have given them food for thought.
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BB_snickers: You answered just fine. Even people who speak the language have difficulty with understanding the sense of things. In fact you may have answered some other posters as well, or at least have given them food for thought.
My self esteem issues started with my father when I was a very young child.
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BB_snickers: I found it inspiring and mostly as part of the human condition. You answered the pose question but not whether you feel/think that your self esteem is disabled in any way? (by the social standards)
My selfesteem being disabled in any way?
No.
By social standars? They do not matter to me.
Au contraire, I might be guilty of being overconfident and if I ever decided to pose i might make some bucks because of the social standars.
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lifeisadream: My selfesteem being disabled in any way?
No.
By social standars? They do not matter to me.
Au contraire, I might be guilty of being overconfident and if I ever decided to pose i might make some bucks because of the social standards.
No.
By social standars? They do not matter to me.
Au contraire, I might be guilty of being overconfident and if I ever decided to pose i might make some bucks because of the social standards.
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BB_snickers: Somewhere there is a crack in your armor. I will let Antjo find it.
Antjio?
Why Antjio?
Besides, he must be busy counting the money from his lover's business.
A crack in my armor?
I have not armor.
At this stage in my life I have had everything a mortal can have from this world and I need not an armor.
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At this exact moment in time, I could not do this.
A year and a half ago, before illness and subsequent body changes, I may have been able to.
A few months ago, because of another reason, I was on my way to being able to.
But right now, no.
A year and a half ago, before illness and subsequent body changes, I may have been able to.
A few months ago, because of another reason, I was on my way to being able to.
But right now, no.
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Really awesome video !!!, but yes i could, but i don't think that would be a good marketing scheme !
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BB_snickers: I think, generally speaking that artistic types have a different view of beauty.
Historically as I mentioned, art sometimes has the effect of changing cultural norms, which was likely at least part of the reason for the artists work in the video and the resulting manikins.
Historically as I mentioned, art sometimes has the effect of changing cultural norms, which was likely at least part of the reason for the artists work in the video and the resulting manikins.
Self esteem is like greed, if I think more of myself than others we are not equal.
My self is equal to those that have self imperfections.
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This is a wonderful thread - I am glad you shared it with us -
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I've always been a risk taker so to speak never been scared of challenges.