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Jul 13, 2014 12:11 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
54xmas hi comrad.wave ...I can't view what you posted because it is not available to me here in Ireland but I am sure it is lovely.wine
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Jul 13, 2014 12:40 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
54xmax: Really, why is god truth? What makes you say that?
coz he said he was
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Jul 13, 2014 12:41 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
@54xmax...

What are you arguing against, specifically? Only it sounds like you have (understandable) objections to certain aspects of organised religion, power and corruption.

I'm not sure that covers all concepts of 'god', though.

What if I were to define 'god' as a state of personal being which people attempt to attain? What if 'god' is to do with higher consciousness, humanity, or other such things? Could you present evidence that this concept, or goal doesn't exist?
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Jul 13, 2014 12:41 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
aroundthesun
aroundthesunaroundthesunAberdeen, Grampian, Scotland UK1 Threads 3 Posts
I worked in Africa for 15 years with the security services. We were called out to an incident. We found over 15.000 bodies. Men , women and children all killed by there own people. I decided then that there is no GOD.
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Jul 13, 2014 12:46 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
jac379: @54xmax...

What are you arguing against, specifically? Only it sounds like you have (understandable) objections to certain aspects of organised religion, power and corruption.

I'm not sure that covers all concepts of 'god', though.

What if I were to define 'god' as a state of personal being which people attempt to attain? What if 'god' is to do with higher consciousness, humanity, or other such things? Could you present evidence that this concept, or goal doesn't exist?


Well said jac!!
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Jul 13, 2014 12:47 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
jac379: @54xmax...

What are you arguing against, specifically? Only it sounds like you have (understandable) objections to certain aspects of organised religion, power and corruption.

I'm not sure that covers all concepts of 'god', though.

What if I were to define 'god' as a state of personal being which people attempt to attain? What if 'god' is to do with higher consciousness, humanity, or other such things? Could you present evidence that this concept, or goal doesn't exist?


Indeed it doesn't. In fact ironically, the word god is, for many, a barrier to that which it is supposed to be pointing us towards.
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Jul 13, 2014 12:47 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
aroundthesun: I worked in Africa for 15 years with the security services. We were called out to an incident. We found over 15.000 bodies. Men , women and children all killed by there own people. I decided then that there is no GOD.


That is an horrific thing you witnessed even me hearing it makes me shudder but you have compassion my god of my understanding is in you not any particular one person but in you through you,
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Jul 13, 2014 12:50 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: That is an horrific thing you witnessed even me hearing it makes me shudder but you have compassion my god of my understanding is in you not any particular one person but in you through you,



God was in the ones that did murder as they thought it to be right in themselves .
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Jul 13, 2014 12:56 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Jul 13, 2014 1:01 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldnt set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.

I'm a sailor man from Glasgow town,
I've roamed this world round and round,
Hes the meanest thing that I have found,
In all mydays of wander

But I could see his evil eyes,
Twas then he took me by surprise,
Take me to your paradise,
I want to see the Jungle.

Here we go again,
We're on the road again,
We're on the road again,
We're on our way to Paradise,
We love the jungle deep,
That's where the lion sleeps, (yeeeaaaaahhhh)
For in those evil eyes,
They have no place in Paradise.

Chorus 3
Grafitti on the walls just as the sun was going down,
I seen graffitti on the walls( Of the CELTS, Of the CELTS),
Graffitti on the walls that says we're Magic, We're Magic,
Graffiti on the walls.......Graffiti on the walls........
And it said..............

We went to each jungle deep,
For the Paradise that we did seek,
Was no trip for the weak,
We're waltzing with the natives.

From the Amazon to Borneo,
From Africa to Tokyo,
To the darkest jungles of the world,
But nowhere could i lose him.


Around in circles every way,
He turned to me and he did say,
I think your leading me astary,
I want your soul me boyo



gift
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Jul 13, 2014 3:34 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
jac379: I asked you if prejudice was logical and you said "Yes".

What original question of mine are you referring to?

Sorry, my mistake, I thought you were the thread author.

And I ask you again, what is 'god' that you say doesn't exist? What is the evidence that 'god' (whatever you think 'god' is) doesn't exist? What exactly are you refuting?
as a stand alone question prejudice is justified more today than ever before. Would you sit back and let another religion to rule in your country? Would you want to go to war on behalf of someone's else's political and religious ideologies? The world is spending billions on security to protect themselves against those things and therefore it is reasonable.

You cannot define the god you believe in because you don't actually know what you are defining. Do your ideas come with proof or did you do the same as it has been done since the beginning, create one in your own image?
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Jul 13, 2014 3:38 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
peachmelba: That is an horrific thing you witnessed even me hearing it makes me shudder but you have compassion my god of my understanding is in you not any particular one person but in you through you,
Did you know love and hate is the same emotion? It is both scientifically and philosophically provable?
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Jul 13, 2014 3:40 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: God was in the ones that did murder as they thought it to be right in themselves .
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Jul 13, 2014 3:40 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
AgentAjax: as a stand alone question prejudice is justified more today than ever before. Would you sit back and let another religion to rule in your country? Would you want to go to war on behalf of someone's else's political and religious ideologies? The world is spending billions on security to protect themselves against those things and therefore it is reasonable.

This is logical fallacy and contradictory to your appeals for evidence.

AgentAjax: You cannot define the god you believe in because you don't actually know what you are defining. Do your ideas come with proof or did you do the same as it has been done since the beginning, create one in your own image?

What lead you to think I believed in a 'god' (whatever that might be)? confused
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Jul 13, 2014 3:41 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
AgentAjax: Did you know love and hate is the same emotion? It is both scientifically and philosophically provable?

Go on then.
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Jul 13, 2014 3:43 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
AgentAjax: Did you know love and hate is the same emotion? It is both scientifically and philosophically provable?


God is in those that hate too and commit murder to them it's their truth but when I'm not forgiving of that I do not have god in me but if I forgive the god is in me,
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Jul 13, 2014 4:00 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
peachmelba: God is in those that hate too and commit murder to them it's their truth but when I'm not forgiving of that I do not have god in me but if I forgive the god is in me,
That is not critical thinking. Forgiveness is not part of human nature it is part of rationalizing.
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Jul 13, 2014 4:03 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
AgentAjax: That is not critical thinking. Forgiveness is not part of human nature it is part of rationalizing.

Are you saying it's not human nature to rationalise? confused
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Jul 13, 2014 4:07 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
AgentAjax: That is not critical thinking. Forgiveness is not part of human nature it is part of rationalizing.


I can forgive but I won't forget, I don't think the Argentinian manager will be forgiving of the German goalkeeper for flying out of his box and nearly knocking the strikers head off,,,.im watcing match now it's electrifying all the masses of people watching my telly nearly sparking,super
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Jul 13, 2014 4:09 PM CST Your Best Argument For Atheism
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
jac379: Go on then.
under brain scans, the same neurons that become active when one experienced love or hate. Philosophically, when you defend something, anything it is because you love what you are protecting, but the opposing persons or countries interpretation is hate.
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