Farmers children three times more likely to go to college. (181)
peachmelba: Yes the injustice of it,,,I buy my potatoes and edges from my local farmer,,,his daughter captain of the Wexford camogie team won all Ireland 3 times .. ,
Yes maybe ill tell him I'm buying my spuds from an imported farmer instead ,,,I don't think.
Yes maybe ill tell him I'm buying my spuds from an imported farmer instead ,,,I don't think.
Stupid iPad Eggs sorry for the mistake.
stanley8m: Thick ignorant lazy parasite farmers, scrounging subsidies and grants off the hard working taxpayer, forcing up the cost of fuel by refusing to pay the normal amount VAT on their diesel, blockading our roads, pleading poverty and always demanding more, and yet they can afford to flood third level establishments with their big spuddie dinner eating offspring.
Taxpayers are mugs.
Taxpayers are mugs.
I take it that your are not from farming background.
Some farmers are up at 4 clock in the morning to milk then they have to feed them, then milk again in the evening, some farmers milk 3 times a day, some are up all hours lambing sheep, alot of small farms try and hold down a full time job and look after there farm and cattle in the evening.
Farmers do pay their tax.
how can you make out that's lazy?
There is very little money in farming, i know growing up on a farm, my father wasn't able to pay my college fees, so i had to get a job and save up to go to college.
Think you should pick on people that draw the DOL and have no interested in work, and are able to go to college just to keep the social welfare of their backs and cost them noting
buzzy111: I take it that your are not from farming background.
Some farmers are up at 4 clock in the morning to milk then they have to feed them, then milk again in the evening, some farmers milk 3 times a day, some are up all hours lambing sheep, alot of small farms try and hold down a full time job and look after there farm and cattle in the evening.
Farmers do pay their tax.
how can you make out that's lazy?
There is very little money in farming, i know growing up on a farm, my father wasn't able to pay my college fees, so i had to get a job and save up to go to college.
Think you should pick on people that draw the DOL and have no interested in work, and are able to go to college just to keep the social welfare of their backs and cost them noting
Some farmers are up at 4 clock in the morning to milk then they have to feed them, then milk again in the evening, some farmers milk 3 times a day, some are up all hours lambing sheep, alot of small farms try and hold down a full time job and look after there farm and cattle in the evening.
Farmers do pay their tax.
how can you make out that's lazy?
There is very little money in farming, i know growing up on a farm, my father wasn't able to pay my college fees, so i had to get a job and save up to go to college.
Think you should pick on people that draw the DOL and have no interested in work, and are able to go to college just to keep the social welfare of their backs and cost them noting
People on the dole are means tested and undergo strict assessment of their assets to establish if they qualify for assistance. How can you justify a farmer who has assets worth multi millions of euro in livestock, machinery, private home, land Rovers etc taking money off the taxpayer in the form of subsidies, grants and non payment of VAT? If they cannot make a living from their assets, sell them, invest the millions and live off the interest. Tractor driving parasites, the lot of them.
stanley8m: People on the dole are means tested and undergo strict assessment of their assets to establish if they qualify for assistance. How can you justify a farmer who has assets worth multi millions of euro in livestock, machinery, private home, land Rovers etc taking money off the taxpayer in the form of subsidies, grants and non payment of VAT? If they cannot make a living from their assets, sell them, invest the millions and live off the interest. Tractor driving parasites, the lot of them.
not all farmers are multi millionaires chap..some have 30 or 40 acres and are by no means rich..I know a farmer who was that poor he ate pigeons for a few years..your solution is to sell their land off and that'll make them money but you've no farm at the end of that to pass on to your offspring all you have is a ball of money..some things are more important
To all the farmers & farm hands....
stanley8m: But that is the problem, animals are dying because the farmers are useless at their job. I know farmers in Kildare with huge farms and they make massive profits because they have the facilities and resources to farm the land profitably.
The Irish system of small farmers forcing a living out of the soil must end, along with our policy of subsidising these failed enterprises. The future of Irish farming is in multi thousand acre estates specialising in export friendly produce.
Scrapping the subsidies will allow the market to dictate who can survive in farming, and lead to the more successful farmers growing their businesses and benefitting the country.
So to Irish farmers whinging and looking for more grants and subsidies, I say, scrap the subsidies, sell the farms and get a job.
The Irish system of small farmers forcing a living out of the soil must end, along with our policy of subsidising these failed enterprises. The future of Irish farming is in multi thousand acre estates specialising in export friendly produce.
Scrapping the subsidies will allow the market to dictate who can survive in farming, and lead to the more successful farmers growing their businesses and benefitting the country.
So to Irish farmers whinging and looking for more grants and subsidies, I say, scrap the subsidies, sell the farms and get a job.
stanley8m: But that is the problem, animals are dying because the farmers are useless at their job. I know farmers in Kildare with huge farms and they make massive profits because they have the facilities and resources to farm the land profitably.
The Irish system of small farmers forcing a living out of the soil must end, along with our policy of subsidising these failed enterprises. The future of Irish farming is in multi thousand acre estates specialising in export friendly produce.
Scrapping the subsidies will allow the market to dictate who can survive in farming, and lead to the more successful farmers growing their businesses and benefitting the country.
So to Irish farmers whinging and looking for more grants and subsidies, I say, scrap the subsidies, sell the farms and get a job.
The Irish system of small farmers forcing a living out of the soil must end, along with our policy of subsidising these failed enterprises. The future of Irish farming is in multi thousand acre estates specialising in export friendly produce.
Scrapping the subsidies will allow the market to dictate who can survive in farming, and lead to the more successful farmers growing their businesses and benefitting the country.
So to Irish farmers whinging and looking for more grants and subsidies, I say, scrap the subsidies, sell the farms and get a job.
Have I rendered you speechless Buzzy? 
stanley8m: But that is the problem, animals are dying because the farmers are useless at their job. I know farmers in Kildare with huge farms and they make massive profits because they have the facilities and resources to farm the land profitably.
The Irish system of small farmers forcing a living out of the soil must end, along with our policy of subsidising these failed enterprises. The future of Irish farming is in multi thousand acre estates specialising in export friendly produce.
Scrapping the subsidies will allow the market to dictate who can survive in farming, and lead to the more successful farmers growing their businesses and benefitting the country.
So to Irish farmers whinging and looking for more grants and subsidies, I say, scrap the subsidies, sell the farms and get a job.
The Irish system of small farmers forcing a living out of the soil must end, along with our policy of subsidising these failed enterprises. The future of Irish farming is in multi thousand acre estates specialising in export friendly produce.
Scrapping the subsidies will allow the market to dictate who can survive in farming, and lead to the more successful farmers growing their businesses and benefitting the country.
So to Irish farmers whinging and looking for more grants and subsidies, I say, scrap the subsidies, sell the farms and get a job.
As the saying goes if you have livestock you will have dead stock. a animals is the the same as a human they can get sick and some die, doesn't mean they are bad job, thats just a stupid thing to say.
Most Farmers spend their susbsidies on the farm and to feed animals, they don't just bank it, and as far as grants goes for example, if you get a grant to build a shed, it has to be done to government spec so if you get 20000 of a grant, you will have to put another 20000 of you own money into it so the shed will cost 40000, if you didn't get the grant you could do it for 20000, not government spec but would be as good, and not paying a engineer to look at every stage of the job.
Until farmers get good prices for their Product they need Subsidies to keep going.
I would agree with doing away with subsidies and grants, but the Government has to make farming pay first.
stanley8m: Have I rendered you speechless Buzzy?
never haha, dont know what happend there
stanley8m: Have I rendered you speechless Buzzy?
never haha, dont know what happend there
buzzy111: never haha, dont know what happend there
Called a blonde moment...
Farmers children are three times more likely to go to college because they are three times brighter than other people's children....simple..
Phoenix: Called a blonde moment...
maybe haha
buzzy111: As the saying goes if you have livestock you will have dead stock. a animals is the the same as a human they can get sick and some die, doesn't mean they are bad job, thats just a stupid thing to say.
Most Farmers spend their susbsidies on the farm and to feed animals, they don't just bank it, and as far as grants goes for example, if you get a grant to build a shed, it has to be done to government spec so if you get 20000 of a grant, you will have to put another 20000 of you own money into it so the shed will cost 40000, if you didn't get the grant you could do it for 20000, not government spec but would be as good, and not paying a engineer to look at every stage of the job.
Until farmers get good prices for their Product they need Subsidies to keep going.
I would agree with doing away with subsidies and grants, but the Government has to make farming pay first.
Most Farmers spend their susbsidies on the farm and to feed animals, they don't just bank it, and as far as grants goes for example, if you get a grant to build a shed, it has to be done to government spec so if you get 20000 of a grant, you will have to put another 20000 of you own money into it so the shed will cost 40000, if you didn't get the grant you could do it for 20000, not government spec but would be as good, and not paying a engineer to look at every stage of the job.
Until farmers get good prices for their Product they need Subsidies to keep going.
I would agree with doing away with subsidies and grants, but the Government has to make farming pay first.
But farming will never pay it's way until we get rid of the subsidies and grants and force farmers to pay VAT. By taking this course of action only those farmers who can generate profit will survive. Small farmers will be forced to sell their land in vast numbers forcing the price of land to drop, therefore allowing accumulation of large tracts of land that will be profitable.
The only way for farming to be successful is to run it like a business. One Farming family working full time raising 80 or a hundred cattle and claiming grants subsidies and not paying VAT is a joke, but this system is being sustained by the taxpayer subsiding these unsuccessful, poorly run businesses.
We need big farms with thousands of livestock and by all means allow the successful farmer employ the dispossessed farmers to work on the land at a minimum wage which reflects the low skill requirements of the farming industry.
If only we had someone with the balls of Mrs Thatcher to take on the Irish farmers. She wouldn't be long about crushing those sponging, tractor driving parasites.
snowlynx: Farmers children are three times more likely to go to college because they are three times brighter than other people's children....simple..
Well farmers are definitely bright enough to fool the taxpayer into paying for their Toyota Avensis and big spuddie dinners for the past forty years.
stanley8m: But farming will never pay it's way until we get rid of the subsidies and grants and force farmers to pay VAT. By taking this course of action only those farmers who can generate profit will survive. Small farmers will be forced to sell their land in vast numbers forcing the price of land to drop, therefore allowing accumulation of large tracts of land that will be profitable.
The only way for farming to be successful is to run it like a business. One Farming family working full time raising 80 or a hundred cattle and claiming grants subsidies and not paying VAT is a joke, but this system is being sustained by the taxpayer subsiding these unsuccessful, poorly run businesses.
We need big farms with thousands of livestock and by all means allow the successful farmer employ the dispossessed farmers to work on the land at a minimum wage which reflects the low skill requirements of the farming industry.
If only we had someone with the balls of Mrs Thatcher to take on the Irish farmers. She wouldn't be long about crushing those sponging,
tractor driving parasites.
The only way for farming to be successful is to run it like a business. One Farming family working full time raising 80 or a hundred cattle and claiming grants subsidies and not paying VAT is a joke, but this system is being sustained by the taxpayer subsiding these unsuccessful, poorly run businesses.
We need big farms with thousands of livestock and by all means allow the successful farmer employ the dispossessed farmers to work on the land at a minimum wage which reflects the low skill requirements of the farming industry.
If only we had someone with the balls of Mrs Thatcher to take on the Irish farmers. She wouldn't be long about crushing those sponging,
tractor driving parasites.
I Agree farming should be ran as a business, but as i said before government may do something to make it pay, and it would pay if the got payed for there product, but in the meat industry the factory get the most of the money, i don't think that's right.
Were are you getting that farmers don't pay VAT?? they don't on fuel and Machinery unless they are vat register, they do get Vat back on Concrete if they are doing a big job but that's about it.
Low skilled environment?? Farming is a Dangerous environment and you are going to put a low skilled worker in to work cattle. its a trade that takes years to prefect,and you have to love it to do it. not like most trades that you do 4 years to qualify.
No mater what your business is or how big it is if you dont get paid more than what it cost you, its simple your not going to make money.
You can go on all night if your like that farmers a loaded and a lazy, but i know first hand that they are lucky to brake even each year, some years can be better than others.
stanley8m: Well farmers are definitely bright enough to fool the taxpayer into paying for their Toyota Avensis and big spuddie dinners for the past forty years.
only for farming in Ireland there would be less exports and would cost more for meat and milk at the counter
buzzy111: I Agree farming should be ran as a business, but as i said before government may do something to make it pay, and it would pay if the got payed for there product, but in the meat industry the factory get the most of the money, i don't think that's right.
Were are you getting that farmers don't pay VAT?? they don't on fuel and Machinery unless they are vat register, they do get Vat back on Concrete if they are doing a big job but that's about it.
Low skilled environment?? Farming is a Dangerous environment and you are going to put a low skilled worker in to work cattle. its a trade that takes years to prefect,and you have to love it to do it. not like most trades that you do 4 years to qualify.
No mater what your business is or how big it is if you dont get paid more than what it cost you, its simple your not going to make money.
You can go on all night if your like that farmers a loaded and a lazy, but i know first hand that they are lucky to brake even each year, some years can be better than others.
Were are you getting that farmers don't pay VAT?? they don't on fuel and Machinery unless they are vat register, they do get Vat back on Concrete if they are doing a big job but that's about it.
Low skilled environment?? Farming is a Dangerous environment and you are going to put a low skilled worker in to work cattle. its a trade that takes years to prefect,and you have to love it to do it. not like most trades that you do 4 years to qualify.
No mater what your business is or how big it is if you dont get paid more than what it cost you, its simple your not going to make money.
You can go on all night if your like that farmers a loaded and a lazy, but i know first hand that they are lucky to brake even each year, some years can be better than others.
So you think it takes a highly skilled person to pull the land rover over to the side of the road and have a look to see if the cattle are doing alright eating grass?
Oh and as for your point on Farmers importance for exports and bringing revenue into the country, if Irish agriculture is so successful, why are we the taxpayers, subsidising them?
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Yes maybe ill tell him I'm buying my spuds from an imported farmer instead ,,,I don't think.