Farmers children three times more likely to go to college. (181)
emerald888: I don't think it takes a highly skilled person at all, alot a born into it. Way of life for them. This might explain how they manage to hold down 9/5 jobs. Your beginning to sound like a right Townie here Stan. What's the problem. I can only speak for my own family here, they were left land, already had jobs, held onto the herd number, got a good accountant, why not apply for all the grants available.
While you were investing in property as you have so often posted here, maybe it was land you should have invested in.
While you were investing in property as you have so often posted here, maybe it was land you should have invested in.
you say alot of them were born into farming, So when a child shows a interest in it, and goes around around with their father, as he or she grows up they are learning the trade, not everyone can do it you have to have a true love for it.
Well Farming is a skill maybe not Highly skilled but not every one can do it, like every trade some are better than others.
He invested in property, didn't know that, wounder is he going buy all this land of the farmers now?
The farmers around Europe though... the grants are basically another form of Supplementary Social Welfare. Even in the supermarkets the food half the time is form abroad because they do it cheaper.
As for the farmers in in this country... I can see what happened in the UK. They moved off the land into the cities and much of the farms are now in Corporate hands. The 'farmers' are farm managers that looks after huge areas and they have economies of scale of their side. If the grants and subsidies disappeared in the morning, 2 things would happen. The farmers would try to cover the cost and we'd see a big rise in the price of food in the short term on the shelves. In the long term, the food on the shelves would be foreign.
As for the farmers in in this country... I can see what happened in the UK. They moved off the land into the cities and much of the farms are now in Corporate hands. The 'farmers' are farm managers that looks after huge areas and they have economies of scale of their side. If the grants and subsidies disappeared in the morning, 2 things would happen. The farmers would try to cover the cost and we'd see a big rise in the price of food in the short term on the shelves. In the long term, the food on the shelves would be foreign.
emerald888: I don't think it takes a highly skilled person at all, alot a born into it. Way of life for them. This might explain how they manage to hold down 9/5 jobs. Your beginning to sound like a right Townie here Stan. What's the problem. I can only speak for my own family here, they were left land, already had jobs, held onto the herd number, got a good accountant, why not apply for all the grants available.
While you were investing in property as you have so often posted here, maybe it was land you should have invested in.
While you were investing in property as you have so often posted here, maybe it was land you should have invested in.
My property Empire was created by a drug crazed hallucinogenic former poster we laughed off the site, I can't recall his username, but he is remembered by his nicknamed SNIFFY.
If I remember properly his fantasy portrayed me as a jet set developer with my own private aeroplane.
buzzy111: only for farming in Ireland there would be less exports and would cost more for meat and milk at the counter
My point is that if we remove the dole/subsidy cushion, farmers will have to produce what the market demands. This will result in larger farms, greater productivity, reduced costs and better value for the consumer.
The Irish government have to stand up to the farmer bully boys and stop them sponging off the taxpayer.
stanley8m: Oh Really, well how about this small farm, 185 acres for 6 Million
Myrtle Lodge, Ballyflannigan, Brittas Bay, Wicklow
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Farm For Sale, 185 acres €6,000,000
Oh and all the grants and subsidies thrown in eh.
Myrtle Lodge, Ballyflannigan, Brittas Bay, Wicklow
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Farm For Sale, 185 acres €6,000,000
Oh and all the grants and subsidies thrown in eh.
Thats not a small farm and it depends on where it is, land is better on the East coast and than in the West.
Googled the place you mentioned, as I thought you are clueless, are you seriously comparing that place the the average farm?
GalwayGuy35: Thats not a small farm and it depends on where it is, land is better on the East coast and than in the West.
Googled the place you mentioned, as I thought you are clueless, are you seriously comparing that place the the average farm?
Googled the place you mentioned, as I thought you are clueless, are you seriously comparing that place the the average farm?
An 185 acre farm is miniscule, tiny even by international standards. Or is your view of the world limited to the parochial confines of Macra?
You must be from farming stock, brought up to whine and whinge, play the famine hand of the poor Oirish Farmers, families of 18 children surviving hand to mouth on a half acre of rock and bog in the middle of Connemara.
Look, galwayguy, as I say to any farmer sponging off the taxpayers, if you can't make your business a success, sell the land, get a job and pay your way in society, we don't owe you a living.
Stan has obviously given up any chance of pulling a woman from a rural or agricultural background.............
stanley8m: An 185 acre farm is miniscule, tiny even by international standards. Or is your view of the world limited to the parochial confines of Macra?
You must be from farming stock, brought up to whine and whinge, play the famine hand of the poor Oirish Farmers, families of 18 children surviving hand to mouth on a half acre of rock and bog in the middle of Connemara.
Look, galwayguy, as I say to any farmer sponging off the taxpayers, if you can't make your business a success, sell the land, get a job and pay your way in society, we don't owe you a living.
You must be from farming stock, brought up to whine and whinge, play the famine hand of the poor Oirish Farmers, families of 18 children surviving hand to mouth on a half acre of rock and bog in the middle of Connemara.
Look, galwayguy, as I say to any farmer sponging off the taxpayers, if you can't make your business a success, sell the land, get a job and pay your way in society, we don't owe you a living.
I'm not a farmer faceless man, but I did grow up on one, a 30 acre one and we never whinged, just got on with it like many others.
GalwayGuy35: I'm not a farmer faceless man, but I did grow up on one, a 30 acre one and we never whinged, just got on with it like many others.
Well fair play to you, and enjoying the benefits of country living is something I identify with. Home grown organic food, and all the good qualities we learn from hard work producing our own food in a healthy rural environment.
It is the subsidies, grants and non payment of VAT that should be abolished. Our farmers should work for a living, not scrounge and bum money off the taxpayer.
snowlynx: Stan has obviously given up any chance of pulling a woman from a rural or agricultural background.............
You never know, I might represent a challenge to a farmers daughter.
buzzy111: Very true, next thing he will say farmers should pay water charges haha,
farming was one of things that kept exports going when the recession.
Farmers have taken a big hit in the past month as Russia has stopped Irish meat coming into there country, Cattle Prices are very low at the moment.
farming was one of things that kept exports going when the recession.
Farmers have taken a big hit in the past month as Russia has stopped Irish meat coming into there country, Cattle Prices are very low at the moment.
Are they not going to?
stanley8m: Well fair play to you, and enjoying the benefits of country living is something I identify with. Home grown organic food, and all the good qualities we learn from hard work producing our own food in a healthy rural environment.
It is the subsidies, grants and non payment of VAT that should be abolished. Our farmers should work for a living, not scrounge and bum money off the taxpayer.
It is the subsidies, grants and non payment of VAT that should be abolished. Our farmers should work for a living, not scrounge and bum money off the taxpayer.
Just haven't a Clue, They do work hard, I know a farmer the has 200 head of cattle, 300 ewes, he does everything by himself calve cows and up all hours at night lambing and feeding. and to say a farmer doesn't work hard ?? I think you go work on a farm and see how long would you stick it.
Glatlol: Are they not going to?
No Why? they put there own wells in at their own experience, and they maintain it each year
buzzy111: No Why? they put there own wells in at their own experience, and they maintain it each year
So once again non farmers have to pay more than farmers, not exactly fair is it.
Glatlol: So once again non farmers have to pay more than farmers, not exactly fair is it.
Well anyone that has a private well, doesn't have to pay it.
Animals need water 24/7, River water is not good for them, so the water pump is cutting in and out every day, which has a big Esb bill that they pay, and replacing the pump every few year, when its all put together they would be paying more.
buzzy111: Just haven't a Clue, They do work hard, I know a farmer the has 200 head of cattle, 300 ewes, he does everything by himself calve cows and up all hours at night lambing and feeding. and to say a farmer doesn't work hard ?? I think you go work on a farm and see how long would you stick it.
So your farmer friend has livestock worth an extremely conservative estimate of a quarter of a million Euro, does he claim subsidies, grants and avail of practically VAT free diesel despite having all this disposable wealth in his possession?
Eh, is he sponging off the taxpayer when he is a man of considerable wealth?
No wonder farmers kids are three times more likely to go to college.
I think I would have made a good farmers wife,, I'd have the pigs and calfs in the house for the winter,,::laugh: .
They would never make it to the butchers,,
They would never make it to the butchers,,
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When my aunts hubby my uncle was younger he had a job in a slaughter yard he didnt want to but being a man that always worked from a very young age he took it,,,he hated it he told us but just got on with it...not a nice Job......yes I do eat meat but it looks so presentable on the shelves..
When my aunts hubby my uncle was younger he had a job in a slaughter yard he didnt want to but being a man that always worked from a very young age he took it,,,he hated it he told us but just got on with it...not a nice Job......yes I do eat meat but it looks so presentable on the shelves..
stanley8m: Thick ignorant lazy parasite farmers, scrounging subsidies and grants off the hard working taxpayer, forcing up the cost of fuel by refusing to pay the normal amount VAT on their diesel, blockading our roads, pleading poverty and always demanding more, and yet they can afford to flood third level establishments with their big spuddie dinner eating offspring.
Taxpayers are mugs.
Taxpayers are mugs.
What about all the lazy sods on the dole in the towns who get everything off the Government? At least farmers make food i.e. they do something
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I can only speak for my own family here, they were left land, already had jobs, held onto the herd number, got a good accountant, why not apply for all the grants available.
While you were investing in property as you have so often posted here, maybe it was land you should have invested in.