Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ? ( Archived) (164)

Oct 2, 2014 5:14 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Benny1518: Loaise. Yes. I agree with you. Parents do and should have an influence on curriculum. However, how much freedom should we give our kids to choose what they want to learn. What if religious studies is offered by a school don't you think our kids should be given the option to make up their own minds?


Once they're old enough to do that, absolutely. However, religion is taught in schools from the beginning and how does a 5 or 6 year old decide for themselves at that stage?
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Oct 2, 2014 5:15 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
KNenagh: The debate about creationism and evolution is something I never encountered in a class room and I don't think anyone should.
Must it be debated, or is it OK to just discuss it as possibilities? (I get what you mean, however....but classrooms are for learning, not for omitting. JMO)

If we start omitting every subject that might cause a problem or argument, it would be slim pickins for learning. Might as well stay at home. JMO
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Oct 2, 2014 5:17 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
KNenagh: The debate about creationism and evolution is something I never encountered in a class room and I don't think anyone should.

I think it's just an American thing.... it was never a debate here in my time. Though, the generation before me might have another version.
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Oct 2, 2014 5:24 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
rohaan: Must it be debated, or is it OK to just discuss it as possibilities? (I get what you mean, however....but classrooms are for learning, not for omitting. JMO)

If we start omitting every subject that might cause a problem or argument, it would be slim pickins for learning. Might as well stay at home. JMO


No offense to you rohaan, it's more of a question I ask myself at this stage, but is it Americans who don't get my point of view?

I had religion and science as a subjects in school. We learned about religion as in it's history and when we were older, ethic was introduced. Science as in scientific facts.

We never had a major debate that evolution would rule out the teachings of the bible. In Germany religion is very much a private matter and people who bang on about it or are "demonstrative" believers are widely avoided.

We were encouraged to ask and to debate, but I can't ever remember having a big debate about that topic in school.

I think a school is the place to ask questions, in fairness, we were encouraged to do so.
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Oct 2, 2014 5:32 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
KNenagh: No offense to you rohaan, it's more of a question I ask myself at this stage, but is it Americans who don't get my point of view?

I had religion and science as a subjects in school. We learned about religion as in it's history and when we were older, ethic was introduced. Science as in scientific facts.

We never had a major debate that evolution would rule out the teachings of the bible. In Germany religion is very much a private matter and people who bang on about it or are "demonstrative" believers are widely avoided.

We were encouraged to ask and to debate, but I can't ever remember having a big debate about that topic in school.

I think a school is the place to ask questions, in fairness, we were encouraged to do so.
I understand, and no offense was taken. We're just having a discussion, which is my point about the classroom. Perhaps the concepts of Evolution and Creationism are not appropriate in public school, after all. To this I readily agree without hesitation. But if one is taught, so should the other, because America is about fairness, and only giving one side is not fair, and supposedly NOT what we stand for.
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Oct 2, 2014 5:34 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Not to long ago all topics of religion was taken out of schools.

They even banned Santa Clause out of schools too because the districts didn't wish to offend another religion.

What I find strange is that the School Board members during their meetings say the pledge to the flag and pray but the students aren't allowed to.
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Oct 2, 2014 5:36 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
rohaan: I understand, and no offense was taken. We're just having a discussion, which is my point about the classroom. Perhaps the concepts of Evolution and Creationism are not appropriate in public school, after all. To this I readily agree without hesitation. But if one is taught, so should the other, because America is about fairness, and only giving one side is not fair, and supposedly NOT what we stand for.


Yes, we did have both subjects, and maybe it is more about facts and less about believes in our school system. I would find it alarming if only religion and not evolution was taught though, I agree with you there.
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Oct 2, 2014 5:49 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
Evolution is a scientific theory.


Creationism, like heaven and hell is a religious construct

and as such has no place in the public school system.
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Oct 2, 2014 5:55 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
youretheboss
yourethebossyourethebossMurarrie, Queensland Australia1 Threads 100 Posts
Benny1518: The "Science vs Faith " debate has been going on for some time. What side are on CS members?


Well, schools should be free to teach Creationism in religious studies classes, but not as a science, for it is simply not science. As Creationism and Intelligent Design are faith-based concepts with no scientific support, why should they be taught as a science?
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Oct 2, 2014 10:14 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Whether it's taught in schools or not, it will be found out. Just about everyone knows that Intelligent Design is the hottest theory amongst scientist right now. It started a few years ago after many studies into our DNA, determined that our universal reality, is no accident.
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Oct 2, 2014 10:25 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I attended mass and a religious class every weekday for twelve years in catholic schools. No one then objected to anything. School libraries were full of books on evolution. Was no big deal.
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Oct 2, 2014 10:47 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Conrad.. On your American money it said "In God We Trust."
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Oct 2, 2014 10:47 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Conrad.. On your American money it said "In God We Trust."
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Oct 2, 2014 10:52 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Conrad. The USA is still a majority Christian country so what is really wrong in teaching kids about their religious heritage.
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Oct 2, 2014 11:00 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Benny1518: Conrad.. On your American money it said "In God We Trust."




Not on all American money.Mine says says "To whom it may concern. Or justt passing through. laugh
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Oct 2, 2014 11:03 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Knenagh.. We are currently debating an issue. No opinion is insignificant. We don't have to agree.

As a former teacher, I sometimes have to answer questions concerning the origin of life, God and creation. Kids do think about the world hence , sharing the Biblical and evolution viewpoints and let the children draw their own conclusion is fair.
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Oct 2, 2014 11:11 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Ray. Thanks for replying. I agree totally with every thing you said.
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Oct 2, 2014 11:11 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Ray. Thanks for replying. I agree totally with every thing you said.
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Oct 2, 2014 11:14 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Postneoludite .. I don't think we can do that. We need our brain cells in order to continue this debate.
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Oct 2, 2014 11:14 PM CST Should schools teach Creationism along with Evolution ?
Benny1518
Benny1518Benny1518Port jervis, New York USA33 Threads 561 Posts
Postneoludite .. I don't think we can do that. We need our brain cells in order to continue this debate.
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