Ban the Burka (120)
Harryonline: There are these strange laws often by-laws from centeries back.
I did first think it was a bit mush about the Burka ban when I first heard it a few years back.
At the time I tought it was just because the French are more right wring than most.
Then I found out it was for all face covering.
Over a while, the policy has gained my favor (so much so I am talking to my friends who are involved in politics for this to be brought up in the agenda for discussion)
I am usually in favor of the rulings the human rights courts rule on.
I feel they have done the home work.
From my perspective, we should be able to recognize people face to face, and if asked to by the law.
I did first think it was a bit mush about the Burka ban when I first heard it a few years back.
At the time I tought it was just because the French are more right wring than most.
Then I found out it was for all face covering.
Over a while, the policy has gained my favor (so much so I am talking to my friends who are involved in politics for this to be brought up in the agenda for discussion)
I am usually in favor of the rulings the human rights courts rule on.
I feel they have done the home work.
From my perspective, we should be able to recognize people face to face, and if asked to by the law.
I don't disagree with the law they set out, but it should be policed in the same manner whoever is wearing a facial cover. Whether it be a scarf, big hood or even face paint.
There has to be something that means it works for all, and not just because they're of a different religion, which is all it's being used for so far.
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Laws are created to be observed and abide by all.
Anybody,not abiding laws is in trangression of the law.
Some laws need to be reported,to be acted upon.
Anybody,not abiding laws is in trangression of the law.
Some laws need to be reported,to be acted upon.
2girlsnocup: I don't disagree with the law they set out, but it should be policed in the same manner whoever is wearing a facial cover. Whether it be a scarf, big hood or even face paint.
There has to be something that means it works for all, and not just because they're of a different religion, which is all it's being used for so far.
There has to be something that means it works for all, and not just because they're of a different religion, which is all it's being used for so far.
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truheart1941: hi...Ali.....gollocks.... BUT.....if your leaders told you to come over here ..to kill...me....would you......??????...for religious..reasons.??.
Dont be silly Truheart,Ali would kill you if he thought he could sleep with a white women as a reward
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chris27292729: Laws are created to be observed and abide by all.
Anybody,not abiding laws is in trangression of the law.
Some laws need to be reported,to be acted upon.
Anybody,not abiding laws is in trangression of the law.
Some laws need to be reported,to be acted upon.
SOME being the operative word.
Someone sitting there quietly enjoying an opera show, hardly fits into something dramatic enough to have her thrown out, does it?
If she was screaming blue murder and creating a scene that people feared for their safety, then maybe so.
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2girlsnocup: I don't disagree with the law they set out, but it should be policed in the same manner whoever is wearing a facial cover. Whether it be a scarf, big hood or even face paint.
There has to be something that means it works for all, and not just because they're of a different religion, which is all it's being used for so far.
There has to be something that means it works for all, and not just because they're of a different religion, which is all it's being used for so far.
I think there has to a percentage of people who dont know about this law or the finer details.
Of course the right wing will promote it as a small victory for them, and people then hear about it that way, be it "dressed up" like if its some kind of victory for them and a thorn in the side to the (to them) evil foe.
May be the Government should promote the law correctly, say on a public service TV broadcast
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Harryonline: I think there has to a percentage of people who dont know about this law or the finer details.
Of course the right wing will promote it as a small victory for them, and people then hear about it that way, be it "dressed up" like if its some kind of victory for them and a thorn in the side to the (to them) evil foe.
May be the Government should promote the law correctly, say on a public service TV broadcast
Of course the right wing will promote it as a small victory for them, and people then hear about it that way, be it "dressed up" like if its some kind of victory for them and a thorn in the side to the (to them) evil foe.
May be the Government should promote the law correctly, say on a public service TV broadcast
It made the news after all the protests it spawned. I'm sure they all knew about it.
Most people just don't see it causes that much of a problem.
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mollybaby: Not necessarilyWhen the IRA killed people, the vast majority of Irish people would have been vocal against it, even though it was supposedly done in our name.
The majority cannot be blamed for the extremist minority.
hi Molly.......I know that....many innocent people men/woman/children....died....its heartbreaking.xx.The majority cannot be blamed for the extremist minority.
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truheart1941: hi Molly.......I know that....many innocent people men/woman/children....died....its heartbreaking.xx.
On both sides...
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
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mollybaby: On both sides...
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
Then the majority in that community should do something about the minority who is giving them the bad name.
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mollybaby: On both sides...
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
..yes you are right there.......it would be stupid of me .to argue that point.....But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
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Harryonline: Then the majority in that community should do something about the minority who is giving them the bad name.
And they do. They are constantly speaking out against extremism, but the media choose not to ever feature that side .
We cannot take what we see on the news as gospel. I am often as guilty of that as the next. It is too easy.
But real knowledge is power.
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truheart1941: ..yes you are right there.......it would be stupid of me .to argue that point.....
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lovinyouallover9: I miss our country when we use to be burka free....
How did the date go?
Are you married yet?
Did ya keep it in the family?
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Harryonline: Then the majority in that community should do something about the minority who is giving them the bad name.
They do. They are as outraged as everyone else, as they are tainted by association by ignorant people.
They don't want that, and who better than to try and offer advice, than people from the same community or group? They can see the point, and can offer help to stop people doing crap in the name of (insert group here).
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bodleing2: I worry more about the veil that covers some peoples minds...
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What erks me out is...
Everyday people, from an everyday town in their country...
shouting and raving...
"DOWN WITH THE WEST, DOWN WITH THE WEST..."
No other group of people do this, no other relgious group, or political group, where masses come on the street.
Now, this aint normal, its Very "abnormal"
Are far as I'm concerned, I live in the West - so I oppose it.
Lots of groups have grievances, but they do not act on mass like that.
On the opposite side of the coin.
Over here you get masses going to anti war rallies.
Never saw any demonstrations for the terrorists out rages by the majority where they minority extremists are a bad name for.
Where is the out rage ? Where was international leaders of the majority displaying their out rage by their extremists ?
What you saw was people in the streets celebrating
Also are they fighting against ISIS ?
I did not post this to any particular person.
Everyday people, from an everyday town in their country...
shouting and raving...
"DOWN WITH THE WEST, DOWN WITH THE WEST..."
No other group of people do this, no other relgious group, or political group, where masses come on the street.
Now, this aint normal, its Very "abnormal"
Are far as I'm concerned, I live in the West - so I oppose it.
Lots of groups have grievances, but they do not act on mass like that.
On the opposite side of the coin.
Over here you get masses going to anti war rallies.
Never saw any demonstrations for the terrorists out rages by the majority where they minority extremists are a bad name for.
Where is the out rage ? Where was international leaders of the majority displaying their out rage by their extremists ?
What you saw was people in the streets celebrating
Also are they fighting against ISIS ?
I did not post this to any particular person.
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mollybaby: And they do. They are constantly speaking out against extremism, but the media choose not to ever feature that side .
We cannot take what we see on the news as gospel. I am often as guilty of that as the next. It is too easy.
But real knowledge is power.
We cannot take what we see on the news as gospel. I am often as guilty of that as the next. It is too easy.
But real knowledge is power.
And you have this ? is it a gift ? or did you find it ? (i'm just kidding with you)
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mollybaby: On both sides...
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
Here's the problem. The so called Moderates don't do enough about it. And this ISIS thing has focused my attention on how literally thousands of people from Western Europe have gone to Syria and Iraq.
I'm starting to come around to the idea that the moderates have a passive resistance to their own extremists... at best... and at worst, passive support.
40% of UK Muslims want Sharia law. Sharia Law and it's brother Wahhabism may be outlawed very soon in Europe as an extremest Ideology.
20% of British Muslims had some sympathy for the 7th July Bombers.
21% of British Muslims have a favourable opinion of Suicide bomber in certain circumstances.
Yep.. we're still talking the "Most" aren't like this.... but unfortunately, 20% is a huge number. It's time to start putting the heal down on necks.
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The majority,been THE MAJORITY,is responsible,for NOT be able to subdue the extremist minority.Apathy is not the answer,to an extremist minority.-
mollybaby: On both sides...
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
But the point still remains, the majority cannot be held responsible for the extremist minority
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