Should parents-to-be require a licence? (49)
mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 PostsA 40 something year old seeing a shrink cos of your childhood my god 
what a waste of money its a cop out to blame your parents or your up bringing, admittedly some people have better parenting skills than others, my motto in life is there is always 2 paths or 2 choices in life to follow so up to the individual to choose whatever ,good and bad in the world since the dawning of time 
what a waste of money its a cop out to blame your parents or your up bringing, admittedly some people have better parenting skills than others, my motto in life is there is always 2 paths or 2 choices in life to follow so up to the individual to choose whatever ,good and bad in the world since the dawning of time mollybaby: I watched that before...great video!
hi moll hope your well ,, thanks for the kick up the butt a while back much appreciated 
mjpd67: A 40 something year old seeing a shrink cos of your childhood my god what a waste of money its a cop out to blame your parents or your up bringing, admittedly some people have better parenting skills than others, my motto in life is there is always 2 paths or 2 choices in life to follow so up to the individual to choose whatever ,good and bad in the world since the dawning of time
Great video, MJ, thank you...
So
You're saying that the apple does fall far from the tree? That you have choices?
So why do some people choose to be bad? Where does that instinct come from?
Let's say one's father was a womaniser all his life - is the son learning that this is acceptable, and follows in his footsteps, growing up to be disrespectful to women? Not necessarily physically, but mentally or emotionally? Or is he just choosing to be that way?
We are all affected by what we have experienced in life - whether you want to quote FB sayings or not. Yes, we have choices. But we are conditioned by that which we have experienced ourselves. You're either going to go in the opposite direction, or you're going to follow in the footsteps of those that taught you.
And btw - welcome back
mjpd67: hi moll hope your well ,, thanks for the kick up the butt a while back much appreciated
I'm always available for that!!
henonpause: Great video, MJ, thank you...
So
You're saying that the apple does fall far from the tree? That you have choices?
So why do some people choose to be bad? Where does that instinct come from?
Let's say one's father was a womaniser all his life - is the son learning that this is acceptable, and follows in his footsteps, growing up to be disrespectful to women? Not necessarily physically, but mentally or emotionally? Or is he just choosing to be that way?
We are all affected by what we have experienced in life - whether you want to quote FB sayings or not. Yes, we have choices. But we are conditioned by that which we have experienced ourselves. You're either going to go in the opposite direction, or you're going to follow in the footsteps of those that taught you.
And btw - welcome back
So
You're saying that the apple does fall far from the tree? That you have choices?
So why do some people choose to be bad? Where does that instinct come from?
Let's say one's father was a womaniser all his life - is the son learning that this is acceptable, and follows in his footsteps, growing up to be disrespectful to women? Not necessarily physically, but mentally or emotionally? Or is he just choosing to be that way?
We are all affected by what we have experienced in life - whether you want to quote FB sayings or not. Yes, we have choices. But we are conditioned by that which we have experienced ourselves. You're either going to go in the opposite direction, or you're going to follow in the footsteps of those that taught you.
And btw - welcome back
I think some people have to fight harder against bad upbringings to ensure that they do not choose the same route.
Some will need professional help to get the tools to do this.
others just choose to repeat what they know..
mjpd67: As Mr Humphries said on Are you being Served ,,,, Im Free
Wahoooo, I've scored! My number is 1850..
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MADDOG69: We would though. It's a slippery slope. I think you're the one missing the whole theory. Once you start bringing in laws or regulations like that, it can be abused. Anyway, having children is considered a fundamental right by everyone, no matter who or what you are. Imagine if someone like me got the job of deciding who can have kids or not? I'd ban kids in Cork and have yiz all sterilized.
Just as well my daughter's South African, then
This post was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion - and folk have as always, taken it too far.
It is obvious, it has to be, that this is not a viable idea, nor a recommendation...
YOu said it above - having kids is a fundamental right. The question is.. what if it wasn't, and that was what this post was supposed to be about.
Like, the kids in Cork, like, are some of the soundest, like, around, like.
If a child can receive love ,shelter,food,warmth,
Love from two parents is the ideal ,like father or mother but if its only from just one parent or guardian and the child's welfare is guaranteed then love,
Adequate warmth and food are the basics,.
Love from two parents is the ideal ,like father or mother but if its only from just one parent or guardian and the child's welfare is guaranteed then love,
Adequate warmth and food are the basics,.
peachmelba: If a child can receive love ,shelter,food,warmth,
Love from two parents is the ideal ,like father or mother but if its only from just one parent or guardian and the child's welfare is guaranteed then love,
Adequate warmth and food are the basics,.
Love from two parents is the ideal ,like father or mother but if its only from just one parent or guardian and the child's welfare is guaranteed then love,
Adequate warmth and food are the basics,.
Love and protection of the child is the most important .
henonpause: Just as well my daughter's South African, then
This post was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion - and folk have as always, taken it too far.
It is obvious, it has to be, that this is not a viable idea, nor a recommendation...
YOu said it above - having kids is a fundamental right. The question is.. what if it wasn't, and that was what this post was supposed to be about.
Like, the kids in Cork, like, are some of the soundest, like, around, like.
This post was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion - and folk have as always, taken it too far.
It is obvious, it has to be, that this is not a viable idea, nor a recommendation...
YOu said it above - having kids is a fundamental right. The question is.. what if it wasn't, and that was what this post was supposed to be about.
Like, the kids in Cork, like, are some of the soundest, like, around, like.
Really? Cos it seemed terribly serious to me like... the forewarning of a controversial topic... the story about the man beating a woman nearly to death... all very seroius type of stuff, no?
Imagine living in china,you want to start a family ,,
Your told no you can only have two at the most,you find out you having a girl and you have to get termination,
That's what happens or did happen to many families in some parts of china,
China is one of the most populated I know and they have to keep the numbers down but the way they go about things,
,,
Then again they are communists,
The poor Chinese are dying with the smog industrial pollution,
Not good for those mothers expecting their one child,
Your told no you can only have two at the most,you find out you having a girl and you have to get termination,
That's what happens or did happen to many families in some parts of china,
China is one of the most populated I know and they have to keep the numbers down but the way they go about things,
,,Then again they are communists,
The poor Chinese are dying with the smog industrial pollution,
Not good for those mothers expecting their one child,
MADDOG69: Really? Cos it seemed terribly serious to me like... the forewarning of a controversial topic... the story about the man beating a woman nearly to death... all very seroius type of stuff, no?
Lol, MD, you ain't gonna wind me up lol.
The theory of licencing parents-to-be was tongue in cheek. If you're going to be pedantic about it all...
The business of the woman who was beaten up? Not so much fun at all.
peachmelba: Imagine living in china,you want to start a family ,,
Your told no you can only have two at the most,you find out you having a girl and you have to get termination,
That's what happens or did happen to many families in some parts of china,
China is one of the most populated I know and they have to keep the numbers down but the way they go about things,
,,
Then again they are communists,
The poor Chinese are dying with the smog industrial pollution,
Not good for those mothers expecting their one child,
It also means you cant have brother, sister or cousin ....Your told no you can only have two at the most,you find out you having a girl and you have to get termination,
That's what happens or did happen to many families in some parts of china,
China is one of the most populated I know and they have to keep the numbers down but the way they go about things,
,,
Then again they are communists,
The poor Chinese are dying with the smog industrial pollution,
Not good for those mothers expecting their one child,
henonpause: Lol, MD, you ain't gonna wind me up lol.
The theory of licencing parents-to-be was tongue in cheek. If you're going to be pedantic about it all...
The business of the woman who was beaten up? Not so much fun at all.
What wind up? The theory of licencing parents-to-be was tongue in cheek. If you're going to be pedantic about it all...
The business of the woman who was beaten up? Not so much fun at all.
Tell us this, does that dog of yours have a licence?
michaelright: It also means you cant have brother, sister or cousin ....
Yes and when the parents are older it be own to just the one to look after them,
,I was an only child for 8 years and took me awhile to share with my bro,
peachmelba: Yes and when the parents are older it be own to just the one to look after them,
,I was an only child for 8 years and took me awhile to share with my bro,
,I was an only child for 8 years and took me awhile to share with my bro,
Then three years later a sis came after the first bro,
Then another bro came along four years after sis,
Then another bro a year and half after the second bro,
I said mam that's enough now. Stop having babies ,
So she did,,,about time too I said,
Absolutely!!!
but.................
First you need a dictatorship for it, as else having children is classed one of the most fundamental rights to a human being, unthinkable to remove it within a liberal society.
Next, even if we should be able to get that going within a democracy, who will set the criteria? Where to draw the line of who is allowed and who is not? I for example do not believe that hitting a child full stop is good (and mine were raised without that need). Many though believe 'slapping' is a valid method.
Read something very interesting yesterday about findings that seem to indicate humans on average are for example not born selfish. Tests were conducted which seem to point at that it is nurture which makes us selfish, as while we grow up we observe more and more that selfish and forceful behaviour gets those surrounding us what they want. We live in an elbow society, and the young grow into it.
When I gave birth to my first, in the hospital I was crying looking at many of those little ones, as it was pretty obvious quite a few of them would not end in loving warm caring families. I wanted to take them all home with me, but obviously not a chance.
We can not even force mothers to breast feed their babies. There are plenty out there who do not want to breast feed because they find it inconvenient or because they fear for the shape of their breasts. To me that's a sign of total selfishness, not conductive to being a good parent. If I'd say here though those who are of that mind set should not be allowed to have children either, it would lead to an outcry, so I won't say it (but I can think it )
but.................
First you need a dictatorship for it, as else having children is classed one of the most fundamental rights to a human being, unthinkable to remove it within a liberal society.
Next, even if we should be able to get that going within a democracy, who will set the criteria? Where to draw the line of who is allowed and who is not? I for example do not believe that hitting a child full stop is good (and mine were raised without that need). Many though believe 'slapping' is a valid method.
Read something very interesting yesterday about findings that seem to indicate humans on average are for example not born selfish. Tests were conducted which seem to point at that it is nurture which makes us selfish, as while we grow up we observe more and more that selfish and forceful behaviour gets those surrounding us what they want. We live in an elbow society, and the young grow into it.
When I gave birth to my first, in the hospital I was crying looking at many of those little ones, as it was pretty obvious quite a few of them would not end in loving warm caring families. I wanted to take them all home with me, but obviously not a chance.
We can not even force mothers to breast feed their babies. There are plenty out there who do not want to breast feed because they find it inconvenient or because they fear for the shape of their breasts. To me that's a sign of total selfishness, not conductive to being a good parent. If I'd say here though those who are of that mind set should not be allowed to have children either, it would lead to an outcry, so I won't say it (but I can think it
)Tinypaws: Absolutely!!!
but.................
First you need a dictatorship for it, as else having children is classed one of the most fundamental rights to a human being, unthinkable to remove it within a liberal society.
Next, even if we should be able to get that going within a democracy, who will set the criteria? Where to draw the line of who is allowed and who is not? I for example do not believe that hitting a child full stop is good (and mine were raised without that need). Many though believe 'slapping' is a valid method.
Read something very interesting yesterday about findings that seem to indicate humans on average are for example not born selfish. Tests were conducted which seem to point at that it is nurture which makes us selfish, as while we grow up we observe more and more that selfish and forceful behaviour gets those surrounding us what they want. We live in an elbow society, and the young grow into it.
When I gave birth to my first, in the hospital I was crying looking at many of those little ones, as it was pretty obvious quite a few of them would not end in loving warm caring families. I wanted to take them all home with me, but obviously not a chance.
We can not even force mothers to breast feed their babies. There are plenty out there who do not want to breast feed because they find it inconvenient or because they fear for the shape of their breasts. To me that's a sign of total selfishness, not conductive to being a good parent. If I'd say here though those who are of that mind set should not be allowed to have children either, it would lead to an outcry, so I won't say it (but I can think it )
but.................
First you need a dictatorship for it, as else having children is classed one of the most fundamental rights to a human being, unthinkable to remove it within a liberal society.
Next, even if we should be able to get that going within a democracy, who will set the criteria? Where to draw the line of who is allowed and who is not? I for example do not believe that hitting a child full stop is good (and mine were raised without that need). Many though believe 'slapping' is a valid method.
Read something very interesting yesterday about findings that seem to indicate humans on average are for example not born selfish. Tests were conducted which seem to point at that it is nurture which makes us selfish, as while we grow up we observe more and more that selfish and forceful behaviour gets those surrounding us what they want. We live in an elbow society, and the young grow into it.
When I gave birth to my first, in the hospital I was crying looking at many of those little ones, as it was pretty obvious quite a few of them would not end in loving warm caring families. I wanted to take them all home with me, but obviously not a chance.
We can not even force mothers to breast feed their babies. There are plenty out there who do not want to breast feed because they find it inconvenient or because they fear for the shape of their breasts. To me that's a sign of total selfishness, not conductive to being a good parent. If I'd say here though those who are of that mind set should not be allowed to have children either, it would lead to an outcry, so I won't say it (but I can think it )
Ah the old 'nature v. nurture' argument! That's something that we'll be arguing about to the end of time!
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