Charlie Hebdo...continued.... (22)
There is not a Musselman alive who would not imagine that he was performing an action pleasing to God and his Holy Prophet by exterminating every Christian on earth, while the Christians are scarcely more tolerant on their side.
-- Denis Diderot, Conversations with a Christian Lady (written 1774; published 1777), repr. in Lester G Crocker, ed, Selected Writings, ed. (1966), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
-- Denis Diderot, Conversations with a Christian Lady (written 1774; published 1777), repr. in Lester G Crocker, ed, Selected Writings, ed. (1966), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
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Conrad73: There is not a Musselman alive who would not imagine that he was performing an action pleasing to God and his Holy Prophet by exterminating every Christian on earth, while the Christians are scarcely more tolerant on their side.
-- Denis Diderot, Conversations with a Christian Lady (written 1774; published 1777), repr. in Lester G Crocker, ed, Selected Writings, ed. (1966), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
-- Denis Diderot, Conversations with a Christian Lady (written 1774; published 1777), repr. in Lester G Crocker, ed, Selected Writings, ed. (1966), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
Isn't he the same guy who has the quote about the last politician being strangled with the entrails of the last priest? Or something like that?
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kidatheart: Seeing as the last thread ran up to the allotted number of posts, and the topic was hardly finished....
I see one "Christian" had the gall to denigrate another religion, in a most disgusting fashion in a thread. This I can see as being something that should be condemned, and not just by Islam, but by all, religious or not.
This is not the same as what Charlie Hebdo does, which is to make people look at themselves, for who and what they are, and what they believe. Satire, and political commentary is not spreading hate, but more an invitation for an introspective insight into one's own life.
The two should be seen for what they are, being that they're vastly different, and treated as such.
I see one "Christian" had the gall to denigrate another religion, in a most disgusting fashion in a thread. This I can see as being something that should be condemned, and not just by Islam, but by all, religious or not.
This is not the same as what Charlie Hebdo does, which is to make people look at themselves, for who and what they are, and what they believe. Satire, and political commentary is not spreading hate, but more an invitation for an introspective insight into one's own life.
The two should be seen for what they are, being that they're vastly different, and treated as such.
Ref Guardian.
As many as 15,000 copies of Charlie Hebdo are to go on sale in the UK over the coming days – a fifteen-fold increase over last week – as newsagents and bookshops continue to struggle to meet demand for the French satirical magazine.
Queues formed through the night when last week’s edition went on sale in the UK early on Friday, the first since the terrorist attack on the magazine’s offices in Paris, with most customers missing out as only about 1,000 copies were available.
However, this week more than 3,500 copies of Charlie Hebdo’s second issue since the attack will be available in newsagents specialising in foreign language publications and independent bookshops across the south-east of England from Friday morning.
Potentially as many as 12,000 further copies will be made available across the country in the next few days.
It is understood that demand is still outstripping the number of copies supplied to the UK, with most of the 15,000 run going on sale over the coming days earmarked for customers who had ordered or reserved a copy last week.
It is thought that Charlie Hebdo is still only available in independent book stores and specialist newsagents. Major retailers such as WH Smith, Sainsbury’s and Morrisons have said they do not intend to start stocking the title despite the upsurge in popularity.
It had been indicated to wholesalers that an English language version of this week’s edition of Charlie Hebdo might be made available, however it is understood that that only the French language version has been supplied so far.
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This reminds me of an episode of American Dad when Avery's wife is brainwashed...
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Ok, here it goes my opinion on this:
if one lived in an ideal world,
one could use humour to
make people think, to look
deep into their souls and perhaps change,
but since we live in the real world then
what they did was just stupid, they got themselves killed.
if one lived in an ideal world,
one could use humour to
make people think, to look
deep into their souls and perhaps change,
but since we live in the real world then
what they did was just stupid, they got themselves killed.
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Boris Johnson - The Guardian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sannu: Cheers Conrad!
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CHARLIE QUACK !
during 45 years the"charlie team" has vomite all aspects of the society: religion,politics,french and foreigners people ..and now they are heroes of the nation ! pitiful..volatility and inconsequence ! IAM NOT A CHARLIE AND YOUR ARE A COUNTRY OF CHARLOTS !
during 45 years the"charlie team" has vomite all aspects of the society: religion,politics,french and foreigners people ..and now they are heroes of the nation ! pitiful..volatility and inconsequence ! IAM NOT A CHARLIE AND YOUR ARE A COUNTRY OF CHARLOTS !
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sjena: CHARLIE QUACK !
during 45 years the"charlie team" has vomite all aspects of the society: religion,politics,french and foreigners people ..and now they are heroes of the nation ! pitiful..volatility and inconsequence ! IAM NOT A CHARLIE AND YOUR ARE A COUNTRY OF CHARLOTS !
Say What???during 45 years the"charlie team" has vomite all aspects of the society: religion,politics,french and foreigners people ..and now they are heroes of the nation ! pitiful..volatility and inconsequence ! IAM NOT A CHARLIE AND YOUR ARE A COUNTRY OF CHARLOTS !
Is That your idea of Freedom Of Speech.
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So... just how many of you do speak French? How many of you have a single copy of the publication?
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shivad: So... just how many of you do speak French? How many of you have a single copy of the publication?
What does that have to do with anything?
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kidatheart: What does that have to do with anything?
Duh! Think about it!
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shivad: Duh! Think about it!
Have you read the thread that this one is a continuation of?
I understand exactly what the magazine is about, and I also feel there is a need for such publications, regardless of whether certain individuals or groups feel insulted by them.
Would you have others of a similar vein be silenced? Such as MAD magazine, National Lampoon, or even Jay Leno and Dave Letterman? Same idea, just a different country.
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kidatheart: Have you read the thread that this one is a continuation of?
I understand exactly what the magazine is about, and I also feel there is a need for such publications, regardless of whether certain individuals or groups feel insulted by them.
Would you have others of a similar vein be silenced? Such as MAD magazine, National Lampoon, or even Jay Leno and Dave Letterman? Same idea, just a different country.
I understand exactly what the magazine is about, and I also feel there is a need for such publications, regardless of whether certain individuals or groups feel insulted by them.
Would you have others of a similar vein be silenced? Such as MAD magazine, National Lampoon, or even Jay Leno and Dave Letterman? Same idea, just a different country.
Allez! Ici on veut seulement Pousser les encheres! il n'y a pas de francophones, ici? Pourquoi? Hah! Faire flanelle! Regardez:
'La liberté d'expression est un droit fondamental. Charlie hebdo a besoin de vous pour survivre.
Soutenez-nous en faisant un don ! ' (charliehebdo.fr)
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RayfromUSA: That's the only kind of mercenaries the CIA can afford to hire nowadays.
Ray,you're more paranoid than all those Alphabet-Services combined!
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continued....
"Unfortunately, freedom of speech is always used as the fig leaf when people are bashing Muslims," says Jeff Siddiqui, head of American Muslims of Puget Sound. "If this was a deliberate act of provocation, I'd say fire her. Absolutely. But if now the person gets it and is contrite, I don't see why, because then we'd lose a good teacher."
After the first demonstration, one of Bhandaru's students—named Munira, a devout Muslim from the Oromo community—sent her a text: "That's just sad that you are trying to help them, they use that against you," she wrote. "I will pray for you for this drama to be over. It's just really sad seeing Muslim nowadays acting this way."
"Unfortunately, freedom of speech is always used as the fig leaf when people are bashing Muslims," says Jeff Siddiqui, head of American Muslims of Puget Sound. "If this was a deliberate act of provocation, I'd say fire her. Absolutely. But if now the person gets it and is contrite, I don't see why, because then we'd lose a good teacher."
After the first demonstration, one of Bhandaru's students—named Munira, a devout Muslim from the Oromo community—sent her a text: "That's just sad that you are trying to help them, they use that against you," she wrote. "I will pray for you for this drama to be over. It's just really sad seeing Muslim nowadays acting this way."
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I see one "Christian" had the gall to denigrate another religion, in a most disgusting fashion in a thread. This I can see as being something that should be condemned, and not just by Islam, but by all, religious or not.
This is not the same as what Charlie Hebdo does, which is to make people look at themselves, for who and what they are, and what they believe. Satire, and political commentary is not spreading hate, but more an invitation for an introspective insight into one's own life.
The two should be seen for what they are, being that they're vastly different, and treated as such.