ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ? ( Archived) (153)

Mar 29, 2015 11:36 AM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Lolette
LoletteLoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France15 Threads 1,691 Posts
Nidifugous: I've not read this particular article, but the issue has been discussed for a number of years now. For medical purposes and "authentication", it will most probably be implemented. The idiots of the world will be told that it's to counter terrorism and lots of reasons will be invented why it's "beneficial" for you. It's not beneficial because medicine hasn't fundamentally changed. The only thing that will be beneficial to the hospital is that they can determine whether you're paid up on your health insurance. I talked with a number of doctors and there seems to be a consensus that health care will have to be rationed. That means: you get treatment if you can pay for it.

I am certain that the rights (human and civil) will be amended/circumvented, just like it has already happened in the US. In the EU, they are already circumvented by means of inter-governmental agreements. I saw one such agreement between Germany and the Netherlands that got out "accidentally". Human rights are sacrificed under the guise of anti-terrorism measures. By the time the people find out about it (if they do), it'll be too late to stop it except through massive pressure and that probably won't happen.


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Nidifugous,, hi to you ,,
The scenario that you're bringing in is likely to happen. History shows how human rights were sacrificed to satisfy man's insanity. Many perished, not exclussively on war but on the excessive and abussive behavior of humanity itself. The fact that this issue returns on the surface at the moment, that would/might be a sign (of) that agreement had been reached or sealed. We can't have an access to that, but at least there are some that are aware. Terrorism is rampant nowadays and maybe it's a timely opportunity to open those drawers. Hope not. Thanks for your piece of mind.
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Mar 29, 2015 11:37 AM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
lindsyjones: For your information, all of the participants on my writes here including but not limited to so many english people from your country, NOT ONE IS ACCUSING ME OF MY POOR USE OR UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR SUPERIOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE? Only you? How is that, and you accuse me of not understanding your point?

So let me see, has anyone ever argued with your opinion? What about those lengthy discussion where you impose your thinking without giving any merits to substantial documents presented? Do you want me to enumerate all those previous arguments to our fellow bloggers on here? And you use my missing your point because I am not born of your language? I have lived in my country for more than 40 years, and married to born American Irish, communicated with millions of people, you are the only one who accuses me of not being able to get your point because I am not born English?

How childish is that? Have you seen all my writes? If people didn't understand my presentation all of which in English, why so then that it is most participated in?

Can you tell me that?

Now on the substance of the topic. Your reasoning is taboo. Whatever the government wants, IT WILL HAPPEN.

And I still hold your failure to accept is because of your ignorance on the flow of government's policies. Whether you like it or not, it will happen.

Whatever your reasons, it will happen, you agree? Now the old laws are always superseded by needs of the government. Kapiz?

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Mar 29, 2015 11:39 AM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Lolette: ****
Nidifugous,, hi to you ,,
The scenario that you're bringing in is likely to happen. History shows how human rights were sacrificed to satisfy man's insanity. Many perished, not exclussively on war but on the excessive and abussive behavior of humanity itself. The fact that this issue returns on the surface at the moment, that would/might be a sign (of) that agreement had been reached or sealed. We can't have an access to that, but at least there are some that are aware. Terrorism is rampant nowadays and maybe it's a timely opportunity to open those drawers. Hope not. Thanks for your piece of mind.


Hello Nidi, that is the biggest reasons of the usage Nidi, per the presentation on the new development from Google.

Lolette, sorry about the sidetrack of your post.
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Mar 29, 2015 11:50 AM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Lolette
LoletteLoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France15 Threads 1,691 Posts
lindsyjones: Of course there was a lot of negative reactions from the responses specially the implication that our privacy is completely usurped. But in reality, even this is not a myth anymore. 25 years ago, it was predicted by the Popular Mechanics about the ability of the authority to monitor all our private activities for as long as there is a use of radio waves within our homes, ie. radio, stereo, computer, phone (cell)

GM the biggest automobile giant in my country had been using ON STAR on all their cars which track every vehicle where ever it is in US, Canada and Mexico, although its capability is bigger than that. Their satellite is much greater in scope and power. This is all part of the microchip program.

It is no longer a matter of prediction, it will happen. The activities leading to the benefit is much greater for our government control when it comes to terrorism. Of course we will not agree, and hence Virginia is the leading state to vote against it, but like anything that covers far more effective in government control, I have a feeling, it is going to happen.



Thank you Lindsy ,,
It will happen or not? well we have more or less attacked the topic.
Maybe at the moment we are evoking this possibility, some are yelling to the wonders of technology, while some are losing their lives, their livelihood due to the lack of consideration on the importance of man.
ROBOTS are remplacing the utility of man, some organs can be replaced just like spareparts,,some live much much more longer, other die at a very young age due to exposition to toxic elements. Our lives wether we like it not are piloted by the people composing the society including you and me. In the long run, everyone is responsible ,, i hope people play good their respective rules.
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Mar 29, 2015 11:54 AM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
lindsyjones: For your information, all of the participants on my writes here including but not limited to so many english people from your country, NOT ONE IS ACCUSING ME OF MY POOR USE OR UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR SUPERIOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE? Only you? How is that, and you accuse me of not understanding your point?

So let me see, has anyone ever argued with your opinion? What about those lengthy discussion where you impose your thinking without giving any merits to substantial documents presented? Do you want me to enumerate all those previous arguments to our fellow bloggers on here? And you use my missing your point because I am not born of your language? I have lived in my country for more than 40 years, and married to born American Irish, communicated with millions of people, you are the only one who accuses me of not being able to get your point because I am not born English?

How childish is that? Have you seen all my writes? If people didn't understand my presentation all of which in English, why so then that it is most participated in?

Can you tell me that?

Now on the substance of the topic. Your reasoning is taboo. Whatever the government wants, IT WILL HAPPEN.

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Please tell me how in nine months it may be compulsory to have your baby microchipped in Europe? Please tell me how you think that's going to work without current legal process.

I'm not saying it's not possible to abolish the European Human Court of Human Rights, the veto of the Queen, head of the Commonwealth over government and that we might be subject to a fiendish dictatorship at some point in the future, but to have everything overridden and the compulsory microchipping of babies in place within nine months seems a little over-optimistic to my thinking.

Three flakes of snow and a leaf on the train track and whole of Britain comes to a bureaucratic grinding halt of confusion and inactivity. roll eyes laugh
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Mar 29, 2015 11:58 AM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Lolette: Thank you Lindsy ,,
It will happen or not? well we have more or less attacked the topic.
Maybe at the moment we are evoking this possibility, some are yelling to the wonders of technology, while some are losing their lives, their livelihood due to the lack of consideration on the importance of man.
ROBOTS are remplacing the utility of man, some organs can be replaced just like spareparts,,some live much much more longer, other die at a very young age due to exposition to toxic elements. Our lives wether we like it not are piloted by the people composing the society including you and me. In the long run, everyone is responsible ,, i hope people play good their respective rules.


The law of progress Lolette. We can't stop it. Look at the effects of the hydrogen bomb. It ended the war. Now we have nuclear bombs that can wipe out the whole earth.

Microchip is way too late even to my expectations of being used for the public. It was already talked about 35 years ago but the world was not ready for such a change.

Imagine, on top of this. A car can drive on its own without a driver? It has already been tested by about 400 thousand miles and not a single accident. Reported on the latest of technology.
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Mar 29, 2015 12:04 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
am not going to participate in the global lucifarin, antichrist, mark of the beast end time scenario, I can live like its 1847.

"citizens" are already taking the chip thinking they are part of the Lucy Te~am, part of the Lucy Te~am, part of the Lucy Te~am
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Mar 29, 2015 12:06 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
I'm not saying it's not possible to abolish the European Human Court of Human Rights, the veto of the Queen, head of the Commonwealth over government and that we might be subject to a fiendish dictatorship at some point in the future, but to have everything overridden and the compulsory microchipping of babies in place within nine months seems a little over-optimistic to my thinking.

I believe you answered it as my original understanding Jac.

Yes it takes a lot of effort and focus on the optimistic enforcement, but as you say, it is possible and that is all I wanted to say.
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Mar 29, 2015 12:09 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
lindsyjones: I'm not saying it's not possible to abolish the European Human Court of Human Rights, the veto of the Queen, head of the Commonwealth over government and that we might be subject to a fiendish dictatorship at some point in the future, but to have everything overridden and the compulsory microchipping of babies in place within nine months seems a little over-optimistic to my thinking.

I believe you answered it as my original understanding Jac.

Yes it takes a lot of effort and focus on the optimistic enforcement, but as you say, it is possible and that is all I wanted to say.


And if I can add, there might be a set up, just my crazy mind saying it. What if there is a conspiracy to cause havoc and destruction in your country and make it imminent for them to do it even faster than nine months? Isn't that, too a possibility?
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Mar 29, 2015 12:10 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
crayons: am not going to participate in the global lucifarin, antichrist, mark of the beast end time scenario, I can live like its 1847.

"citizens" are already taking the chip thinking they are part of the Lucy Te~am, part of the Lucy Te~am, part of the Lucy Te~am


Question Crayons, what are you going to do?handshake
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Mar 29, 2015 12:11 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Lolette: Recently,, NBC carried out this sort of prediction or let's call it initial brain storming about the implantation of microchips in all americans, and the same issue is being discussed likewise in Europe.
It seems, in Europe, babies born from December 2016 will be microchipped.
Mothers and would be mothers are already on thier cry out and ready to boycott hospitals and maternity in ever this measure will be carried out.
For medical files, i think it's can be discussed ,, by law enforcers, might be too ? SPIES & DETECTIVES out of the view ?
Well, predictions happened ,, all these wireless telephones and those airplanes we're part of predictions ,,, GEOLOCALISATION TOTAL , it's connected to a satellite. YOU are concerned.
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Mar 29, 2015 12:51 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
lindsyjones: Yes it takes a lot of effort and focus on the optimistic enforcement, but as you say, it is possible and that is all I wanted to say.

By 2016? You've yet to explain how that's going to happen.

Personally, I'd like to think we won't let go of our human rights so easily as you appear to have done in the US.
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Mar 29, 2015 1:07 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
jac_the_gripper: By 2016? You've yet to explain how that's going to happen.

Personally, I'd like to think we won't let go of our human rights so easily as you appear to have done in the US.


You just missed my scenario Jac? The government will set up a conspiracy theory which will cause imminence. I thought you entertained the high optimistic rate? I just confirmed your theory, now you are asking me?

But let me explain again like grade one, and don't accuse me of english deficiency okay?

Here it is. Your country will be continually terrorized, let us say in the fall continued on till the arrival of 2016? Voila, the government can do anything. A remote possibility on the time frame but still it is a
possibility.
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Mar 29, 2015 1:12 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
I'm not saying it's not possible to abolish the European Human Court of Human Rights, the veto of the Queen, head of the Commonwealth over government and that we might be subject to a fiendish dictatorship at some point in the future, but to have everything overridden and the compulsory microchipping of babies in place within nine months seems a little over-optimistic to my thinking.

These are your words, are they not?

So I confirmed it. I can give you more scenarios, but then your limited thinking will have a hard time accepting them..so what is the use?



Personally, I'd like to think we won't let go of our human rights so easily as you appear to have done in the US.”

Can you please give me a scenario and specific on this?
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Mar 29, 2015 1:35 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
Lolette: ****
Nidifugous,, hi to you ,,
The scenario that you're bringing in is likely to happen. History shows how human rights were sacrificed to satisfy man's insanity. Many perished, not exclussively on war but on the excessive and abussive behavior of humanity itself. The fact that this issue returns on the surface at the moment, that would/might be a sign (of) that agreement had been reached or sealed. We can't have an access to that, but at least there are some that are aware. Terrorism is rampant nowadays and maybe it's a timely opportunity to open those drawers. Hope not. Thanks for your piece of mind.


Hi Lolette, Nice to have you on the board. I haven't said it before, so I'll say it now :-) wave

I don't think there is more "terrorism" now than there has ever been. There is sufficient data that shows that the measures that have been implemented in the last 15 years had zero effect in preventing such acts. More people die from being struck by lightning on the toilet than by the hands of terrorists (sarc). The difference between now and the past is the information flow and the incredible amount of misinformation that is put out to confuse people and keep them insecure and afraid. Fear is a powerful motivation to act even against your conscience, you know.

I quite agree that there will always be individuals and groups of people who seek to subdue others and there will always be corruption and the desire by those who are in control in virtue of owning resources to keep control. The chip issue, as I see it, could be a good thing, but it won't be. It will be misused. By misuse I mean it will not benefit the ordinary citizen. I'm hoping that plenty of reasonable people will speak out against mandatory implants and against "blackmailing" medical personnel. (Refuse treatment unless the person is implanted). Here's to hope wine
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Mar 29, 2015 1:54 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
SCB1076: Yes indeed, you are correct about that. But again, computers, no matter how well designed, eventually crash. Aircraft suffer break-ups and motorists crash cars all the time. GM et al have had NUMEROUS vehicle recalls because of things like faulty ignition switches. I can't help it, that's the way it is. And you are foolish to think that something so complex as a chip database can't somehow fail. It does not have to be due to age or wear and tear. The equipment involved can be purposefully built to self-destruct. This has happened before. Some transistors used in an Army helicopter's fire control system were found to be faulty. I did not make this up, this is a real incident! If the devices had been installed, the weapons it controlled would have malfunctioned, possibly killing innocent bystanders or even friendly aircraft. The degree of power has nothing to do with whether or not it can fail or be sabotaged. To date, our chip fabs and design firms are WOEFULLY INSECURE! Until that problem is put under control, NOBODY should trust technology implicitly. Self-driving cars will have computer problems. It's just the nature of the beast, so to speak. Deal with it! Or go off the grid. The choice is yours.


Granting without admitting that the direction of our world is in line of your thinking. I can't imagine us, living in the 19th century and have progressed right to where we are, if you are wise to think it so?

Can you pinpoint to me the cause of failure that will deter progress? GM and the recalls are of course set back on some programs, but even that will NEVER STOP our ways to progress. You are acting like a little child. We have gone to the moon. We have uncovered so many planets in the last year more than we have in the past 100 years, and you are telling me I am FOOLISH?

My dear Lord, can you see how the communication is changing our life? Why? Because of computer..Or did you forget where Bill Gates get all his 78 freaking billions? If we all think like you do, we'd still be in the cave days..
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Mar 29, 2015 1:56 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Now yes I admit, there is no perfection, I told you that in my first response to you. But telling me that I am foolish? Why don't you tell that to Newton, Einstein and those in the front lines of scientific discoveries as to what technology has done for us? Shame on you S for refusing to acknowledge what man has achieved as far as technology is concerned.

You can't stop whatever the government wants to do, with or without your consent. Or you are the foolish one.
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Mar 29, 2015 2:02 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Regardless of what we Americans our will do to/with as they wish to and there isn't too much we can do to stop them.

I could wipe us all off the face of this earth and there obviously be anything to stop them.
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Mar 29, 2015 2:03 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
That's it I'm going back to school now.lol

Ccincy: Regardless of what we Americans our will do to/with as they wish to and there isn't too much we can do to stop them.

They not I (Oh lordy have mercy on me) could wipe us all off the face of this earth and there obviously be anything to stop them.
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Mar 29, 2015 2:18 PM CST ALL AMERICANS MICROCHIPPED BY 2017 ,, ARE YOU READY ?
Ccincy: That's it I'm going back to school now.lol


Let's go CC, I will join you...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing professor professor professor help help help hug hug hug
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