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Nov 17, 2017 12:07 PM CST artificial intelligense
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts


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Nov 17, 2017 12:12 PM CST artificial intelligense
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
stringman: https://youtu.be/hWe62uHpikY



must admit i talk to my phone and computer all the time,rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing beer
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Nov 17, 2017 12:13 PM CST artificial intelligense
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
aries1234: must admit i talk to my phone and computer all the time,


Do they talk back yet ?
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Nov 17, 2017 12:17 PM CST artificial intelligense
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
aries1234: must admit i talk to my phone and computer all the time,


I think we all do.laugh
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Nov 17, 2017 5:32 PM CST artificial intelligense
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts


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Nov 17, 2017 6:24 PM CST artificial intelligense
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
stringman: https://youtu.be/hWe62uHpikY


doh "IntelligenCe"! How can you even CONSIDER the question of "intelligence", if you don't have ENOUGH "intelligence" to know how it's spelled? Or to use spell checker? confused dunno

Point #1. There IS no such thing as "ARTIFICIAL" intelligence! There's "intelligent", and "stupid". There's A LOT of "gray" area (natter) in between! But there's nothing ARTIFICIAL about ANY of it!

Point #2. When you say "artificial" intelligence, I am PRESUMING you mean "machine" intelligence. (As opposed to "human/biological" intelligence.) If so, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT? Instead of being UNclear, as well as confusing? If you want to discuss something, the PREREQUISITE for "INTELLIGENT" conversation", is to get EVERYBODY on the SAME page! And you do THAT, by defining, and thus KNOWING, what it IS, you're going to talk about! And the term "Artificial Intelligence" is OXYMORONIC! If something's "intelligent", it's "intelligent"! And there's NOTHING "artificial" about it.

Do I NEED to go on? frustrated
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Nov 17, 2017 7:27 PM CST artificial intelligense
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Let_Us: "IntelligenCe"! How can you even CONSIDER the question of "intelligence", if you don't have ENOUGH "intelligence" to know how it's spelled? Or to use spell checker?

Point #1. There IS no such thing as "ARTIFICIAL" intelligence! There's "intelligent", and "stupid". There's A LOT of "gray" area (natter) in between! But there's nothing ARTIFICIAL about ANY of it!

Point #2. When you say "artificial" intelligence, I am PRESUMING you mean "machine" intelligence. (As opposed to "human/biological" intelligence.) If so, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT? Instead of being UNclear, as well as confusing? If you want to discuss something, the PREREQUISITE for "INTELLIGENT" conversation", is to get EVERYBODY on the SAME page! And you do THAT, by defining, and thus KNOWING, what it IS, you're going to talk about! And the term "Artificial Intelligence" is OXYMORONIC! If something's "intelligent", it's "intelligent"! And there's NOTHING "artificial" about it.

Do I NEED to go on?


Actually according to the OXFORD DICTIONARY.

Definition of artificial intelligence in English:

artificial intelligence
(also AI)
NOUN

mass noun
The theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

Also for Merriam Webster
Definition of artificial intelligence

1 :a branch of computer science dealing with the simulation of intelligent behaviour in computers
2 :the capability of a machine to imitate intelligent human behaviour


The Phrase Artificial Intelligence was first used in 1955, and has been in use since that time when referring to any mechanical/electronic form of intelligence.
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Nov 18, 2017 7:40 AM CST artificial intelligense
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
rizlared: Actually according to the OXFORD DICTIONARY.

Definition of artificial intelligence in English:

artificial intelligence
(also AI)
NOUN

mass noun
The theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

Also for Merriam Webster
Definition of artificial intelligence

1 :a branch of computer science dealing with the simulation of intelligent behaviour in computers
2 :the capability of a machine to imitate intelligent human behaviour


The Phrase Artificial Intelligence was first used in 1955, and has been in use since that time when referring to any mechanical/electronic form of intelligence.


Will the "machines" ever out run humans?



hmmm
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Nov 18, 2017 9:43 PM CST artificial intelligense
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
rizlared: Actually according to the OXFORD DICTIONARY.

Definition of artificial intelligence in English:

artificial intelligence
(also AI)
NOUN

mass noun
The theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

Also for Merriam Webster
Definition of artificial intelligence

1 :a branch of computer science dealing with the simulation of intelligent behaviour in computers
2 :the capability of a machine to imitate intelligent human behaviour


The Phrase Artificial Intelligence was first used in 1955, and has been in use since that time when referring to any mechanical/electronic form of intelligence.


"I" KNOW what the D*mn dictionary says! Lexicographers can be JUST AS STUPID as everybody else! Just because somebody uses a term to mean a particular thing, DOESN'T mean it's either a GOOD, or CORRECT usage! Language happens to be a "hobby" of mine (as, among OTHER things, I'm a writer). And one thing I've learned, from YEARS of listening to people "talk", is that only 1 in a 1,000,000 has ANY IDEA of what they're REALLY saying!

If you have an "interest" in "communications", you should first take the time to understand how "language" came into existence! In the beginning, it USED to convey some "information". Very IMPRECISELY, to be sure! But REAL info! Nowadays, anyone who has a REAL understanding of language, can control YOUR response to HIS statement, simply by his choice of wording. And it has NO relationship to veracity! And those that DON'T have any understanding just lie UNknowingly (or knowingly, it depends).

Are you familiar with the term "Oxymoron"? (If not, or even IF you are, look it up! In your "dictionary"!) Your DICTIONARY includes a word for words that DON'T make ANY sense! NONSENSICAL words, like "Artificial Intelligence"!

AGAIN, "I" tell you, there is NO SUCH THING, as "ARTIFICIAL" intelligence! Something either IS, or ISN'T intelligent! Look in your dictionary! You'll find that "artificial" means "NOT real", or "Imitation". Something that MAY REPRESENT/RESEMBLE a/the REAL thing. MY stance, is that you CAN'T "fake" intelligence! There's either intelligence (at work), or there's not. You CAN'T have it BOTH ways! Are you maintaining that it CAN be faked?
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Nov 18, 2017 10:21 PM CST artificial intelligense
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Let_Us: Look in your dictionary! You'll find that "artificial" means "NOT real", or "Imitation". Something that MAY REPRESENT/RESEMBLE a/the REAL thing. MY stance, is that you CAN'T "fake" intelligence! There's either intelligence (at work), or there's not. You CAN'T have it BOTH ways! Are you maintaining that it CAN be faked?


So what is intelligence? intelligence means the ability to learn, gain knowledge, learn new skills in a living being. So if a machine has the ability to imitate a living being and learn to acquire new skills and knowledge, then by any definition, including the one you posted, that would be Artificial Intelligence.

Just because you don't like a definition does not change the fact that a dictionary is the authority for the meanings of words.

As someone who has spent years studying etymology you may have hit on the wrong person to discuss the actual meaning of English words laugh laugh laugh
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Nov 18, 2017 11:44 PM CST artificial intelligense
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
rizlared: So what is intelligence? intelligence means the ability to learn, gain knowledge, learn new skills in a living being. So if a machine has the ability to imitate a living being and learn to acquire new skills and knowledge, then by any definition, including the one you posted, that would be Artificial Intelligence.

Just because you don't like a definition does not change the fact that a dictionary is the authority for the meanings of words.

As someone who has spent years studying etymology you may have hit on the wrong person to discuss the actual meaning of English words


scold NO! That would be INTELLIGENCE! WHAT is "artificial" about learning a new skill? You can either do it, or you can't. You either LEARNED it, or you DIDN'T! There's NO middle ground! It's either intelligence, or it's NOT. "Artificial" DOES NOT apply! Intelligence CAN NOT "BE" artificial! If you'd said IMITATIVE intelligence, I wouldn't have bothered to comment!

And, YEAH! Trump is PRESIDENT! But THAT doesn't make me believe or respect him! The "box" is a prison, man! And IF you stick with EVERYTHING anybody tells you, you're NEVER gonna get ANYWHERE, but where THEY'VE been! You HAVE a brain (hopefully!) USE it! DON'T let everybody ELSE (like lexicographers and dictionaries) do your thinking, FOR you! You think "THEY" don't make mistakes? The "dictionaries/encyclopedias" USED to tell us that the world was flat! You wanna go with THAT?

And maybe I oughta add THIS comment, for you to think about. You speak of "learning" as if learning implied "intelligence"! I can teach a goldfish to swim in only one part of his aquarium! Does THAT mean it's "intelligent"? NO! It means that it has the ability to recognize patterns! THAT'S what "learning" is all about! Pattern recognition! Intelligence is being able to go where there IS no pattern to discern! Until AFTER you've been there, and come back! To jump those "chasms" where there ARE no tracks to follow! But you seem to be having a problem doing that (even when the trail is described to/for you!) dunno
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Nov 18, 2017 11:50 PM CST artificial intelligense
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
rizlared: So what is intelligence? intelligence means the ability to learn, gain knowledge, learn new skills in a living being. So if a machine has the ability to imitate a living being and learn to acquire new skills and knowledge, then by any definition, including the one you posted, that would be Artificial Intelligence.

Just because you don't like a definition does not change the fact that a dictionary is the authority for the meanings of words.

As someone who has spent years studying etymology you may have hit on the wrong person to discuss the actual meaning of English words


Oh! I forgot to point THIS out! If dictionaries are the final arbiter of what a word means, how come they keep CHANGING the definitions of the words they've ALREADY defined? And WHY would they have to keep writing NEW ones? EXERCISE your INTELLIGENCE, man! Think! DISCOVER SOMETHING - for YOURSELF, for once!
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Nov 19, 2017 12:59 AM CST artificial intelligense
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
rizlared: So what is intelligence? intelligence means the ability to learn, gain knowledge, learn new skills in a living being. So if a machine has the ability to imitate a living being and learn to acquire new skills and knowledge, then by any definition, including the one you posted, that would be Artificial Intelligence.

Just because you don't like a definition does not change the fact that a dictionary is the authority for the meanings of words.

As someone who has spent years studying etymology you may have hit on the wrong person to discuss the actual meaning of English words


PS: One last thing! Dictionaries are NOT "the Authority" for the meanings of words! The people USING those words, are the "Authority" about what they mean! YOU have an AUTHORITY problem! dunno
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Nov 19, 2017 1:12 AM CST artificial intelligense
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
CS Security sir bobby



How is everything going here?

I hope no-one is disputing my authority on here, if so i'll turn you all into chickens.
chicken chicken chicken chicken angel2

Now play nice humanoids





Lub Bobby sir bobby xox
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Nov 19, 2017 3:58 AM CST artificial intelligense
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Let_Us: Oh! I forgot to point THIS out! If dictionaries are the final arbiter of what a word means, how come they keep CHANGING the definitions of the words they've ALREADY defined? And WHY would they have to keep writing NEW ones? EXERCISE your INTELLIGENCE, man! Think! DISCOVER SOMETHING - for YOURSELF, for once!

A language is a living thing and like most living things it evolves, English is one of the foremost languages in the world for evolving, Engish is made up of so many original and modern languages that any dictionary has to modify and take into account new words or meanings.
For example, the word "selfie", a newly created word, that is now a part of standard English and has been added to the two main English dictionaries Oxford/Cambridge. Definitions change over time and so that also needs to be modified.

Can you refrain from shouting please, it is not necessary and makes it hard to read your posts, thank you.

Oh a dictionary is not an encyclopedia, but unless you understood the use and meaning of a dictionary, I guess easy to make that mistake.

If you are a writer, how come you don't understand the basic meaning of dictionary? It would be impossible to communicate if all words were left unacountable and any meaning attached to those words.
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Nov 19, 2017 4:27 AM CST artificial intelligense
Innocentia00122
Innocentia00122Innocentia00122Osnabrück, Lower Saxony Germany2 Threads 723 Posts
lifeisadream: Will the "machines" ever out run humans?

wave

No, that is not possible, I am quite sure. It is not possible to find an algorithm for the ability to judge. In judging there is a too big chemical process involved that is always unpredictable.
A synthetic human will always be only a surrogate for the natural intelligence.
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Nov 19, 2017 4:46 AM CST artificial intelligense
Innocentia00122
Innocentia00122Innocentia00122Osnabrück, Lower Saxony Germany2 Threads 723 Posts
Let_Us: "IntelligenCe"! How can you even CONSIDER the question of "intelligence", if you don't have ENOUGH "intelligence" to know how it's spelled? Or to use spell checker?

Point #1. There IS no such thing as "ARTIFICIAL" intelligence! There's "intelligent", and "stupid". There's A LOT of "gray" area (natter) in between! But there's nothing ARTIFICIAL about ANY of it!

Point #2. When you say "artificial" intelligence, I am PRESUMING you mean "machine" intelligence. (As opposed to "human/biological" intelligence.) If so, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT? Instead of being UNclear, as well as confusing? If you want to discuss something, the PREREQUISITE for "INTELLIGENT" conversation", is to get EVERYBODY on the SAME page! And you do THAT, by defining, and thus KNOWING, what it IS, you're going to talk about! And the term "Artificial Intelligence" is OXYMORONIC! If something's "intelligent", it's "intelligent"! And there's NOTHING "artificial" about it.

Do I NEED to go on?


Hi, Let-Us,
Artificial Intelligence is not an Oxymoron. An Oxymoron is a stylistic device and is used to make the reader stop and think. I don´t think that that was the intention when the use of that term started long ago. If it would have been then it would be even a contradictio in adiecto.

But I understand what you mean with that "artificial" and "intelligence" are contradicting each other. I always understood intelligence as the substantive of intellegere (Latin infinitive). It means to understand, to realize. The ability to understand and realize naturally (without any help) only have creatures.
The things that are called "artificially intelligent" are things developed by intelligent people to support or make stronger the natural intelligence.
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Nov 19, 2017 6:38 AM CST artificial intelligense
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Nov 19, 2017 7:51 AM CST artificial intelligense
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Innocentia00122: No, that is not possible, I am quite sure. It is not possible to find an algorithm for the ability to judge. In judging there is a too big chemical process involved that is always unpredictable.
A synthetic human will always be only a surrogate for the natural intelligence.

That is not what the experts are saying, they are concerned about AI.

"ability to judge"
An algorithm for the ability to judge?
it cold be developed if taken objective traits/parameters/tendencies/patters which could be better that taking emotions/bias into it as we humans do.

(I am not an expert in the subject but I find it interesting and my bet is on the machines laugh)


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