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Jan 17, 2019 2:06 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
Some 310,000 UK citizens live in Spain and they would have to confirm their residency under a no-deal Brexit, officials said.

The Spanish labour minister said the two countries had "close and solid" relations and they were working on a bilateral accord.
What is the UK prime minister doing?

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Jan 17, 2019 2:08 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
What does the withdrawal agreement say?

The withdrawal agreement covers some of these key points:

How much money the UK will have to pay the EU in order to break the partnership - that's about £39bn
What will happen to UK citizens living elsewhere in the EU, and equally, what will happen to EU citizens living in the UK
How to avoid the return of a physical border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland when it becomes the frontier between the UK and the EU

A length of time, called the transition period, has been agreed to allow the UK and EU to make a trade deal and to give businesses the time to adjust.

That means that if the withdrawal agreement gets the green light, there will be no huge changes between 29 March 2019 and 31 December 2020.

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Jan 17, 2019 2:23 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
aries1234:
Alot of MP's are going to feel the wrath of the British people at the next election.
That's politics for you. dunno
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Jan 17, 2019 2:26 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
bodleing2: A small majority of British people voted for something they were fooled into believing they could have.
It was never going to happen and it will never happen. As Macron said, they voted on a pack of lies.
Twas ever thus.
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Jan 17, 2019 3:22 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
robdinero
robdinerorobdineroRojales, Valencia Spain38 Posts
All the people pushing for a " Peoples Vote" to decide what should happen. and I'm not saying they shouldn't.

But I will ask them what is the difference between a "Peoples Vote" and a referendum, e.g. 2016 Vote.

James
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Jan 17, 2019 3:23 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
robplum: That's why they voted the way they did in the house of commons, why so many voted nay...but that doesn't mean they didn't know what they were doing, they didn't know the outcome is highly unlikely, after all they all sip tea together...
If they don't leave down the not to distant track UK will be paying eu debt levies payments bound up in time so billions outlaid now at least would free the UK from bailing out Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain etc etc, dammed if you do dammed if you don't, mean while the Chinese are eat Australian mutton with the new year feasting and you'll be borrowing horse meat from Germany
The UK is the sixth richest nation in the world. I agree we should be negotiating new deals wit NZ and Oz, but we will survive, at least our masters in Whitehall will ensure that.
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Jan 17, 2019 11:02 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
aries1234: Ok Lee for once I agree with you, Watch out the hairball troll has been let out for the evening,.
It looks like cs has brought yet another ideal couple together.
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Jan 17, 2019 11:34 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
Harbal: It looks like cs has brought yet another ideal couple together.
and you become another aging spinster.
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Jan 17, 2019 11:40 PM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234: Rotten traitor set iy up so May couldn't proceed any further'


He is the most hated man in UK amongst the Brexiteers, John Bercow,
I agree , will this man please go away ,,,thumbs up
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Jan 18, 2019 1:12 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Order, order.... lol
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Jan 18, 2019 1:13 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
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Jan 18, 2019 2:10 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
EXRED
EXREDEXREDNorthumberland, England UK6 Threads 1,659 Posts
bodleing2: A small majority of British people voted for something they were fooled into believing they could have.
It was never going to happen and it will never happen. As Macron said, they voted on a pack of lies.
Sorry what pack of liesconfused

We voted for NO free movement of people, we voted to make our own laws, we voted for freedom to trade who we wanted to not just so called elite club, we voted for our fishermen to fish freely in our own waters.

We then handed the job to MP,S and yes it's hard leaving a club who don't want us to leave.
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Jan 18, 2019 2:14 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
daears
daearsdaearsIn a house lol, Hawke's Bay New Zealand23 Threads 1,542 Posts
aries1234: Rotten traitor set iy up so May couldn't proceed any further'


He is the most hated man in UK amongst the Brexiteers, John Bercow,
Why can't they just sort it dunno dunno . Life ain't that stupid dunno Or is it just feeding pockets of the unneeding dunno
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Jan 18, 2019 2:49 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
EXRED: Sorry what pack of lies

We voted for NO free movement of people, we voted to make our own laws, we voted for freedom to trade who we wanted to not just so called elite club, we voted for our fishermen to fish freely in our own waters.

We then handed the job to MP,S and yes it's hard leaving a club who don't want us to leave.
Well said Red , i concurbeer handshake teddybear
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Jan 18, 2019 3:13 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
Brexit news latest: Theresa May refuses to budge on no deal and issues official call-out for troops to help manage EU exit chaos
Evening Standard Simon Johnson,Evening Standard 22 hours ago


Theresa May today rebuffed growing calls to rule out a no-deal Brexit by issuing a formal call-out notice for troops to help manage any chaos triggered by Britain crashing out of the EU.

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson told Parliament that 3,500 regular and reserve forces would be ready to be deployed across the country.

They could swiftly bolster responses to any no-deal threats to the “welfare, health and security of UK citizens” and to the “economic stability of the UK”, the Ministry of Defence stressed. Military fuel tanker drivers, engineers, planners and logistics experts could be sent in to deal with any food, medicine and petrol shortage crises, as well as offering support in Whitehall and to town halls.

Mr Willamson said: “We will have 3,500 service personnel held at readiness, including regulars and reserves, in order to support any government department on any contingencies they may need.”
Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson (AP)

Getting serious
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Jan 18, 2019 4:31 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
aries1234: Brexit news latest: Theresa May refuses to budge on no deal and issues official call-out for troops to help manage EU exit chaos
Evening Standard Simon Johnson,Evening Standard 22 hours ago


Theresa May today rebuffed growing calls to rule out a no-deal Brexit by issuing a formal call-out notice for troops to help manage any chaos triggered by Britain crashing out of the EU.

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson told Parliament that 3,500 regular and reserve forces would be ready to be deployed across the country.

They could swiftly bolster responses to any no-deal threats to the “welfare, health and security of UK citizens” and to the “economic stability of the UK”, the Ministry of Defence stressed. Military fuel tanker drivers, engineers, planners and logistics experts could be sent in to deal with any food, medicine and petrol shortage crises, as well as offering support in Whitehall and to town halls.

Mr Willamson said: “We will have 3,500 service personnel held at readiness, including regulars and reserves, in order to support any government department on any contingencies they may need.”
Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson (AP)

Getting serious
I hope they arrest John Brecow and throw mim in the dungeons at the Palace of Westminsterlaugh
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Jan 18, 2019 8:16 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
EXRED: Sorry what pack of lies

We voted for NO free movement of people, we voted to make our own laws, we voted for freedom to trade who we wanted to not just so called elite club, we voted for our fishermen to fish freely in our own waters.

We then handed the job to MP,S and yes it's hard leaving a club who don't want us to leave.
A full deck and more i believe...sigh

We send £350 million pounds a week to Brussels. ...leave claim.

Sir Andrew Dilnot, Chair of the UK Statistics Authority has said today:

Given the high level of public interest in the European Union referendum debate, it is vital that official statistics are used accurately, with important caveats and limitations explained.
The UK Statistics Authority is disappointed to note that there continue to be suggestions that the UK contributes £350 million to the EU each week, and that this full amount could be spent elsewhere (see Annex A).
As we have made clear, the UK’s contribution to the EU is paid after the application of the rebate. We have also pointed out that there are payments received by the UK public and private sectors that are relevant here. The continued use of a gross figure in contexts that imply it is a net figure is misleading and undermines trust in official statistics.

We can't control our borders in the EU leave claim.

Free movement means we can’t control our borders, right?
by Luke Lythgoe | 23.03.2016
EU membership requires free movement of people and that means the UK no longer has control of its borders. At least that’s what eurosceptics like Nigel Farage would have people believe. They’ve done a brilliant job muddling the issues. This makes concerns such as terrorism and the refugee crisis feel even more threatening as a result of EU membership. But the two issues are different.

Farage said, following the Brussels bombings, that EU border rules led to “the free movement of terrorists, of criminal gangs and of Kalashnikovs“.

It’s not just UKIP’s boss who muddles the issues. Vote Leave, which is vying with a Farage-backed group to be the official Leave campaign, says on its website that free movement of people means the UK has “almost no control over who enters Britain from Europe” and makes it “much harder to fight terrorism”.

We control our borders
Despite what Brexiteers say, Britain doesn’t need to “reclaim control of its borders”. Anyone who wants to enter the UK still needs to present a passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country for security checks by the UK Border Force.

This differs from our EU partners in the Schengen Area, where internal border checks between countries have largely been abolished. The UK has an opt out from the Schengen Area and will never be obliged to join.

One thing that has helped muddle the issue is the migration crisis focussed on Syria, which has led to much talk of Europe’s “leaky borders”. But, in fact, these are the Schengen Area’s leaky borders. The UK’s control of its own borders means that, despite more than one million migrants entering Schengen in 2015, few have reached the UK. The camps in Calais are testament to how difficult it is for irregular non-EU migrants to enter Britain.

Even media organisations who strive for impartiality helped muddle this issue at the height of the migration crisis by using the short-hand “Europe” when Schengen is more accurate (see these BBC, Reuters and FT headlines).

Cont....
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Jan 18, 2019 8:22 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Eurosceptics blame open borders for recent terrorist atrocities. This partly holds true for the Paris attacks. But any jihadi attempting to enter the UK will be checked. Whether they will be apprehended is down to British border officials, not the EU. That would be true if we quit the EU too. Key to catching potential terrorists at the border is intelligence, and the UK will find it easier to cooperate on EU-wide counter-intelligence by remaining in the EU.

Free movement is different
Free movement of people is different from border-free travel inside Schengen or, indeed, Schengen’s leaky external borders. It is a fundamental principle of the EU, which does apply to Britain. It allows EU nationals to work without a permit, reside, look for a job and enjoy equal treatment to other citizens in another EU member state. These are not refugees fleeing civil war in Syria or economic migrants from outside Europe.

People can argue whether the UK should give Poles, Italians and Swedes rights to work and live in Britain. InFacts argues that on balance the economic argument is in Britain’s favour. It’s also a two-way street, with many Brits enjoying the same rights elsewhere in the EU.

Some eurosceptics, such as Iain Duncan Smith and Liam Fox, argue that today’s Schengen’s leaky borders could become tomorrow’s free movement of refugees or even terrorists. The most extreme suggestion is that a jihadi could lie low in a Schengen country for several years, get citizenship and then bomb the UK. InFacts has already argued that such a plot seems overly elaborate and long-winded.

This is a small extract from a very long list. To see the full list....

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Jan 18, 2019 9:14 AM CST He did the peoples Brexit in
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
6 June, 2016 by Richard Corbett

Nearly three years ago, this man is a labour MEP, and might br slightly.. biased.

This article is nearly three years old and things have been moved on since the dark ages.

Of course we are still paing the EU dues, this will cease on March 29 2019, when we will leave the EU.

Conversly they are still making grants to us until that date.

None of the issues you raise are the problems with Mays deal proposal, but the main obstacle , the Backstop issue, is now being resolved.

And we will go on our merry way on the 29, whats the EU going to do, invade us??
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