The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful. ( Archived) (30)

Jun 27, 2019 10:47 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
Sounds like it's easier to be plain. laugh

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Jun 27, 2019 2:12 PM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
If deep down you feel competent you become a suspicious, one-dimensional object as difficult to please as it is to trust anybody else. Fine if don't just make it in on looks.
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Jun 27, 2019 2:13 PM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: If deep down you don't feel competent you become a suspicious, one-dimensional object as difficult to please as it is to trust anybody else. Fine if don't just make it in on looks.
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Jun 27, 2019 6:01 PM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
Sethan
SethanSethanPort Of Spain, Tunapuna/Piarco Trinidad and Tobago4 Threads 1,080 Posts
MisterForYou: Sounds like it's easier to be plain.
Nothing beats understated beauties though. Beautiful women who aren't trying to sell it, or wear on their sleeves 24 hours a day. They just are.
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Jun 27, 2019 6:33 PM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
I think if you have no depth and are beautiful that lack of depth is gonna spawn manipulation based on that beauty....but then that same woman will view anything and everything in a shallow manner....beauty and depth where a woman sees herself as a whole person and not just an object of beauty is gonna spawn a woman with high self-esteem who places little importance on her beauty and a higher importance and value on who she is as a woman.....so is it easy...well I guess that depends on which category she falls into.......wave
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Jun 27, 2019 10:30 PM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
M4_Mischief: I think if you have no depth and are beautiful that lack of depth is gonna spawn manipulation based on that beauty....but then that same woman will view anything and everything in a shallow manner....beauty and depth where a woman sees herself as a whole person and not just an object of beauty is gonna spawn a woman with high self-esteem who places little importance on her beauty and a higher importance and value on who she is as a woman.....so is it easy...well I guess that depends on which category she falls into.......
But according to the link, beautiful women BECOME shallow because of the way they are brought up, ie the way society treats them. If you are constantly treated as something special because of your looks, and don't have to try as hard at anything as normal folks do, a sense of arrogance and superiority is bound to creep in. I suppose it really depends on the parent's upbringing. Spoil a child and you get a spoilt child.
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Jun 28, 2019 12:32 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
Chambellaonline now!
Chambellaonline now!ChambellaCanberra (ACT) & Batemans Bay, New South Wales Australia526 Posts
MisterForYou: But according to the link, beautiful women BECOME shallow because of the way they are brought up, ie the way society treats them. If you are constantly treated as something special because of your looks, and don't have to try as hard at anything as normal folks do, a sense of arrogance and superiority is bound to creep in. I suppose it really depends on the parent's upbringing. Spoil a child and you get a spoilt child.
I agree, I can speak from first hand experience.... , You/they are speaking about my younger sister...My sister IS and was beautiful from the day she was born..... I mean beautiful! .. she won several beauty contests, and worked as a model for a French fashion house for quite a number of years...

i think she is gorgeous and when anyone even suggest that I am nice/attractive I think to myself.. what a lot of BS and this makes be think of how beautiful my sister is... AND yes she was spoilt rotten and everyone who met her fawned over her ... These days she is still the princess... and unless you speak about something that concerns her, she isn't interested... and throws a tantrum if she doesn't get her way.. Still... LOL...
haha I could write a whole article on the subject...
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Jun 28, 2019 4:24 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
Chambella: I agree, I can speak from first hand experience.... , You/they are speaking about my younger sister...My sister IS and was beautiful from the day she was born..... I mean beautiful! .. she won several beauty contests, and worked as a model for a French fashion house for quite a number of years...

i think she is gorgeous and when anyone even suggest that I am nice/attractive I think to myself.. what a lot of BS and this makes be think of how beautiful my sister is... AND yes she was spoilt rotten and everyone who met her fawned over her ... These days she is still the princess... and unless you speak about something that concerns her, she isn't interested... and throws a tantrum if she doesn't get her way.. Still... LOL...
haha I could write a whole article on the subject...
So your own personal experience supports the gist of the article. It's not rocket science, anyone with a bit of common sense understands it. Just as the turtle hatchling has to go thru the ring of fire to get to the open ocean, so we have to earn our way in the world. By making things easy for your kids, laying on the perks, paying for college, handing them the family business, you are doing them a great disservice. (imo).
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Jun 28, 2019 5:01 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
jac_the_gripper: And yet it is you who devotes so much time to throwing down your gauntlet, to the exclusivity of all else.
Exclusivity??...sorry, I don't get the thrust of your argument. Your grammar may be too advanced for me.
Please rephrase in simpler language.
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Jun 28, 2019 5:02 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
yes I know that being a man and all you know all about women and we know nothing about ourselves.....so you go tiger.....wink
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Jun 28, 2019 5:03 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
M4_Mischief: yes I know that being a man and all you know all about women and we know nothing about ourselves.....so you go tiger.....
Feel better now tiger? applause
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Jun 28, 2019 5:07 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
I don't know...you tell me...you seem to know all women better than they know themselves...so am I?.....confused
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Jun 28, 2019 5:12 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
M4_Mischief: I don't know...you tell me...you seem to know all women better than they know themselves...so am I?.....
You seem to assume I wrote the article in the link posted. I didn't.
For your information, I may or may not agree with the article.

But clearly that nuance escapes the likes of you and other women here
who cannot wait to show their fangs at anything remotely hinting at misogynism or machoism.

if you actually took the time to read the article and process it, you'll realise that it is in fact
a 'mea culpa' on the part of society and families, who shape and form the psychology of girls from an early age.

Did you even get that?
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Jun 28, 2019 5:25 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
Fangs?....gee you know im sitting here feeling absolutely no emotion about this thread whatsoever....I don't agree with the article....no matter how you're raised eventually you become an adult that has choices....as an adult woman you have a chance to see and value yourself as a whole person and yes to realize that looks are only one small part of who you are....looks are no great feat...we're born with them so don't deserve the accolades and importance that people place on them....now having a beautiful soul on the other hand that's something different all together...what does it say about the people in society who place such high value on such a small part of who somebody is?....I have a daughter who is absolutely gorgeous but I taught her to value her intelligence and who she is as a woman and to make her own way....so there goes that theory.....wave
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Jun 28, 2019 5:27 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
Chambella: I agree, I can speak from first hand experience.... , You/they are speaking about my younger sister...My sister IS and was beautiful from the day she was born..... I mean beautiful! .. she won several beauty contests, and worked as a model for a French fashion house for quite a number of years...

i think she is gorgeous and when anyone even suggest that I am nice/attractive I think to myself.. what a lot of BS and this makes be think of how beautiful my sister is... AND yes she was spoilt rotten and everyone who met her fawned over her ... These days she is still the princess... and unless you speak about something that concerns her, she isn't interested... and throws a tantrum if she doesn't get her way.. Still... LOL...
haha I could write a whole article on the subject...
Yup, that syncs with my experience. I knew a family with a little daughter, maybe 4 or 5 yrs old. She was a doll, like a perfect porcelain version of Kristina Pimenova. Well, she was spoilt rotten by everyone, all the cousins, every visitor, and her parents, and I can remember thinking, 'How is this kid ever going to grow up with a balanced understanding of how the world works'? She truly thought the universe revolved around her, even at that age. I have no idea how it turned out. I have more stories, but I don't want to bore you.
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Jun 28, 2019 5:29 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
In response to: True self (also known as real self, authentic self, original self and vulnerable self) and false self (also known as fake self, idealized self, superficial self and pseudo self) are psychological concepts often used in connection with narcissism.

The concepts were introduced into psychoanalysis in 1960 by Donald Winnicott. Winnicott used true self to describe a sense of self based on spontaneous authentic experience, and a feeling of being alive, having a real self. The false self, by contrast, Winnicott saw as a defensive façade – one which in extreme cases could leave its holders lacking spontaneity and feeling dead and empty, behind a mere appearance of being real.

To maintain their self-esteem, and protect their vulnerable true selves, narcissists need to control others' behavior...seen as extensions of themselves.
Just a wee Wiki thing.
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Jun 28, 2019 5:50 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
MisterForYou: Exclusivity??...sorry, I don't get the thrust of your argument. Your grammar may be too advanced for me.
Please rephrase in simpler language.
Yeah, I make whopping great grammatical errors at times.

It's a part of my authentic experience and identity. I hold the funny ones close to my heart and they're often associated with enriching human interaction.
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Jun 28, 2019 6:06 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
I'm not handsome, I'm not cute, women wish that I was mute. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 28, 2019 6:13 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
MisterForYou
MisterForYouMisterForYouValletta, Majjistral Malta87 Threads 16 Polls 962 Posts
PeKaatje: I'm not handsome, I'm not cute, women wish that I was mute.
PK, tell it like it is.
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Jun 28, 2019 6:24 AM CST The Princess Syndrome, or The Curse of Being Beautiful.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Never make it easy for a woman. People will accept privilege, accept rigged and they'll accept the idea of getting lucky, but an aspect or least the illusion of making it in on merit must remain.
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