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Jul 6, 2021 12:39 AM CST Unaid rent
Icebucket
IcebucketIcebucketPafos, Paphos Cyprus6 Threads 24 Posts
I have already posted this in the EU forum section but I thought I would get more response from posting in here so apologies for repeating myself.

Up until a year ago I owned a business here in Cyprus and when I initially took it on there was obviously a contract drawn up between myself and the landlord, I paid the equivalent of 2 months rent as a deposit
(1200 euros), a months rent (600 euros) to secure the business so he wouldn't let it to anybody else and another months 600 euros rent up front so a total of 4 months rent before I had even opened the doors. In my contract it stated/states that the deposit was to be used in the event of any damages to the building or in lieu of unpaid rent, now during our first lockdown here which was for 2 months the business was shut and I didn't pay rent and I sold the business a week or so before the re-opening which by this time the new owners had taken over and as far as I am concerned my 2 months deposit covered the unpaid rent as stated clearly in my contract for the 2 months during lockdown but the landlord is still demanding the 2 months rent from me, any thoughts?
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Jul 6, 2021 2:33 AM CST Unaid rent
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Your scenario is very vague .
Unless you can provide the contract , it’s pointless giving any advice .
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Jul 6, 2021 2:50 AM CST Unaid rent
Icebucket
IcebucketIcebucketPafos, Paphos Cyprus6 Threads 24 Posts
Youcannow: Your scenario is very vague .
Unless you can provide the contract , it’s pointless giving any advice .
Not sure how it can be vague given the amount of information I have put in my post but anyway, I have my original contract which is all legal and above board, dated, stamped, initialed at the bottom of each page, witnessed and with actual 'paper' stamps from the authorities which they in themselves have been rubber stamped. What I am saying is my contract states that my deposit is to be used in the event of unpaid rent and during 2 months lockdown I didn't pay any so in effect my deposit was used for it's original purpose but my old landlord is still demanding the 2 months rent from me.
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Jul 6, 2021 2:52 AM CST Unaid rent
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
Get yourself a lawyer and let the law deal with it.
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Jul 6, 2021 2:59 AM CST Unaid rent
irish78eyes
irish78eyesirish78eyesMeath/Louth, Louth Ireland22 Threads 6,274 Posts
Icebucket: Not sure how it can be vague given the amount of information I have put in my post but anyway, I have my original contract which is all legal and above board, dated, stamped, initialed at the bottom of each page, witnessed and with actual 'paper' stamps from the authorities which they in themselves have been rubber stamped. What I am saying is my contract states that my deposit is to be used in the event of unpaid rent and during 2 months lockdown I didn't pay any so in effect my deposit was used for it's original purpose but my old landlord is still demanding the 2 months rent from me.
If it's on your contract then you have rights
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Jul 6, 2021 3:19 AM CST Unaid rent
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Icebucket: I have already posted this in the EU forum section but I thought I would get more response from posting in here so apologies for repeating myself.

Up until a year ago I owned a business here in Cyprus and when I initially took it on there was obviously a contract drawn up between myself and the landlord, I paid the equivalent of 2 months rent as a deposit
(1200 euros), a months rent (600 euros) to secure the business so he wouldn't let it to anybody else and another months 600 euros rent up front so a total of 4 months rent before I had even opened the doors. In my contract it stated/states that the deposit was to be used in the event of any damages to the building or in lieu of unpaid rent, now during our first lockdown here which was for 2 months the business was shut and I didn't pay rent and I sold the business a week or so before the re-opening which by this time the new owners had taken over and as far as I am concerned my 2 months deposit covered the unpaid rent as stated clearly in my contract for the 2 months during lockdown but the landlord is still demanding the 2 months rent from me, any thoughts?
What have they done with the deposit money? If they spent it on repairs it would be unusual if the cost just happened to be exactly the same as two months rent. Not a penny more, not a penny less.
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Jul 6, 2021 3:22 AM CST Unaid rent
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
It would depend upon a number of things.

You paid two months deposit, so put that to one side.

You paid two months up front, so that paid for your first month and one month you can put aside.

At the beginning of the next month you paid again to cover the next 30/31 days. You still have three months payment put aside, two deposit, one in advance.

At some point you missed two months rent. Take that out of the three months put aside, two months deposit, one in advance. That leaves one month deposit left.

If you didn't give notice at the required time according to your contract, you may be liable for the notice period. If that was one month, your deposit should cover it. If that was more than one month, say, three months, or untl the end of the contract if you were leasing 6 months, or a year at a time, you may legally owe more.

Or, if your landlord wants to keep the two months deposit for other reasons like damage beyond wear and tear/unpaid utilities he should specify and justify that.

If the landlord is trying to get extra rent based on a technicality like notice period, or wear and tear rather than damage, will it be too costly for him to make a legal claim? He's asking for 1,200 which will last for five minutes in legal fees. It may not be worth him persuing, so if it doesn't affect your credit rating, or ability to rent again in the future, it's maybe worth considering ignoring his demands.

Perhaps your first move might be to request an itemised bill from him to see if he can justify the two months he asking you for.
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Jul 6, 2021 8:06 AM CST Unaid rent
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
galrads: Here come the judge. She should ship the landlord to Portland Oregon, Chicago Illinois, new your city or san freako California to live in their sidewalk tent cities proliferating around everything there. Take his i.d. Money, credit card and phones before he leaves.
You're speaking of libtard hell.. I'm not sure any mortal should have to deal with that... doh





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Jul 6, 2021 4:11 PM CST Unaid rent
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
If it is in your contract that you get back the money you payed in advance, pay the 2 months rent and demand the 4 months back.
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Jul 6, 2021 8:45 PM CST Unaid rent
Losted
LostedLostedSherman, Texas USA1 Threads 603 Posts
Icebucket: Not sure how it can be vague given the amount of information I have put in my post but anyway, I have my original contract which is all legal and above board, dated, stamped, initialed at the bottom of each page, witnessed and with actual 'paper' stamps from the authorities which they in themselves have been rubber stamped. What I am saying is my contract states that my deposit is to be used in the event of unpaid rent and during 2 months lockdown I didn't pay any so in effect my deposit was used for it's original purpose but my old landlord is still demanding the 2 months rent from me.
Are you still freeloading off the
landlord?
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