Cain and Able...........? ( Archived) (14)

Sep 9, 2021 10:38 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
Did they have slight schizophrenia ?
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Sep 9, 2021 10:51 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
pedro27: Did they have slight schizophrenia ?
i have to admit, i`ve never read the bible
have you?
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Sep 9, 2021 10:55 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
Dedovix: i have to admit, i`ve never read the bible
have you?
Your Spanish today

Somethings in the bible are true and some not


God didn't write

Humans did
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Sep 9, 2021 11:04 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
pedro27: Your Spanish today
Somethings in the bible are true and some not
God didn't write
Humans did
Are you losing your faith my sonlaugh

The word on the street is that the bible was written by `inspired` people ``

and the biggest sin would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
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Sep 9, 2021 11:07 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
Dedovix: Are you losing your faith my son

The word on the street is that the bible was written by `inspired` people ``

and the biggest sin would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
I have faith but some parts of the bible isn't true

I believe God's will is in control since day 1

I also believe we have free-will

Its all a mystery too over-allcheers
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Sep 9, 2021 11:23 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
pedro27: Did they have slight schizophrenia ?
Cain was angry and jealous because he believed Abel was more favored by God...I don’t know how that came about, if Abel had nicer digs, better cattle/chickens, or what...
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Sep 9, 2021 11:28 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
rohaan: Cain was angry and jealous because he believed Abel was more favored by God...I don’t know how that came about, if Abel had nicer digs, better cattle/chickens, or what...
I think it means something in todays world 2021
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Sep 9, 2021 11:51 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
pedro27: I think it means something in todays world 2021
Those stories are supposed to be timeless, like the lazy servant, the fig tree, etc...
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Sep 9, 2021 11:55 AM CST Cain and Able...........?
rohaan: Those stories are supposed to be timeless, like the lazy servant, the fig tree, etc...
Once we are not 2 bad

God can save us
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Sep 9, 2021 9:21 PM CST Cain and Able...........?
Losted
LostedLostedSherman, Texas USA1 Threads 603 Posts
pedro27: Did they have slight schizophrenia ?
Did they toke on 'that' spliff too?
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Sep 9, 2021 9:31 PM CST Cain and Able...........?
rohaan: Cain was angry and jealous because he believed Abel was more favored by God...I don’t know how that came about, if Abel had nicer digs, better cattle/chickens, or what...
Or was it cause abel had nicer chickensshimmy laugh
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Sep 9, 2021 9:45 PM CST Cain and Able...........?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pedro27: Did they have slight schizophrenia ?
I don’t know what schizophrenia has to do with these siblings but I read somewhere that they were both hermaphrodites.

confused
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Sep 9, 2021 10:41 PM CST Cain and Able...........?
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
In Lashan Hakodesh (The Holy Language, Ivri, Hebrew), Qayin is (mis)translated into English as Cain, and Hevel is likewise (mis)translated as Abel, and Chavva as Eve:

"And the man knew Chavva his wife; and she conceived, and bore Qayin saying, I have acquired a manchild from Hashem. And she again bore, his brother Hevel. And Hevel was a keeper of sheep, but Qayin was a tiller of the ground. ..... and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Qayin rose up against Hevel his brother, and slew him."

There is much knowledge in this section of the Torah (first five books of Mosheh, Moses). A wise man would read it, but with as accurate translation as possible, or, even better, in the original Ivri, Hebrew. Jews believe that G-d is indeed the author of the Torah, but Mosheh was the one who actually wrote it down, excluding the Ten Devarim (Ten Commandments), which G-d wrote with H-s own hand (twice, but the second time Mosheh had to provide the tablets for G-d to write on, after breaking the first set ).

G-d told Qayin that sin was at his doorstep, but that he could overcome it. But, Qayin instead chose to murder his own brother. In telling us this ancient story, G-d demonstrates H- graciousness in granting us freedom of choice. G-d could have just killed Qayin, and saved Hevel. But experience is a teacher. It wasn't just Qayin that would learn. So would Adam and Chavva (Eve), and all the world. And in re-telling this sad story, those of us that hear its lessons, still learn today, as generations have in the past for over five millinia.

This is just a very brief glimpse into this episode of the Torah. It is actually very different than what many people belief or lead others to believe. Observant Jews read the entire Torah (at least) once a year. I've forgotten how many times I've read it. I've even translated over 97% of the words of the Torah. I was starting to translate the actual sentences when my wife of blessed memory was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I lost her the day after Simchat Torah, the day when the new annual reading cycle begins, so it has been difficult for me to resume them. But I will this year.

Shalom l'Col (peace to all)
Iyyov
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Sep 9, 2021 10:47 PM CST Cain and Able...........?
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
galrads: I don’t know what schizophrenia has to do with these siblings but I read somewhere that they were both hermaphrodites.
Perhaps you should endeavor to find more accurate reading. It clearly says in the Torah they were both male. Ivri/Hebrew is a gender based language, and nowhere in the Torah is gender ambiguous. Anyone reading in the Hebrew would know this.
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