I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab. (184)

Dec 29, 2021 12:09 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Oxycodone
OxycodoneOxycodonePula, Central Croatia Croatia1,340 Posts
Anyone who passes in this life jab or no jab is not just a name on a list. wine
Dec 29, 2021 1:57 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Okay, so the video says:

"15 autopsies were carried out on people who died 7 days to 6 months after having the vaccine."

"The coroner, or public prosecuter did not associate the cause of death as the vaccine in any of the cases, however further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the death in 14 out of 15 cases."

"...nothing will happen because work wasn't published in peer reviewed journals so they'll be ignored by the scientific community."

Later on, in the video of Bhakti himself, he says that we need to look no further than these 15 autopsy results.

The 'newscaster' says at the beginning that they delayed reporting on this to check with experts and went on to state 'everything we know about this article is true'.

It doesn't say how the 15 subjects were selected for further examination, or anything about their medical history. It may be true they were selected for further post mortem examination, but that's not the whole truth by any stretch of the imagination.

It's true, the scientific community will not take notice without a peer review of a published journal paper. It begs the question of why this information has not been published by a journal: the usual reason for refusal to publish being that a paper is flawed and not up to the scientific standards expected. Some journals have higher standards than others which is why some are considered elite, but there are wealth of journals that can be applied to. If you can't get anyone to publish your paper it's an indicator that your work is so clearly and obviously unsound, it's not worthy of peer review, but can be eliminated much earlier in the process.

Bhakti, (was he drunk in that clip?) suggesting 'we need to look no further' than these 15 autopsies is an indication that he's not up to standard when it comes to accepted scientific practise.

The same community that complains that billions of vaccinations worldwide is not a large enough sample for the vaccines to move on from experimental status, will happily say 15 subjects (possibly not randomly selected) is enough to prove that they are harmful.

The video all sounds very scientific, especially with unexplained medical jargon being read out to the masses, but it's relying on those masses not knowing jack shit about the basic scientific practises that are being skimmed over, or ignored completely in this 'report'.

Stuff like this is being ignored by the scientific community because it's not scientific. It's at best entertainment, but likely far more nefarious in it's agenda.

There are enough people who have experienced, or suspect side effects from the vaccine (including myself) for there to be an interest in onging research, but please stop peddling this useless and potentially harmful rubbish designed to create dysfunctional mass hysteria.

A figure of 93% based upon 15 (possibly not randomly selected) subjects does not stand up to scientific peer review, but does make for a splendidly sensational gutter press headline. It's like claiming 93% of people worldwide are redheads based on 15 people from one redheaded family.
Dec 29, 2021 1:59 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK1 Threads 4,943 Posts
Oxycodone: Anyone who passes in this life jab or no jab is not just a name on a list.
Seems someone's life has very little value to some people these days..they're nothing more than a number on a list or a statistic on a spreadsheet..sigh tis very sad..
Dec 29, 2021 2:05 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK1 Threads 4,943 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Okay, so the video says:

"15 autopsies were carried out on people who died 7 days to 6 months after having the vaccine."

"The coroner, or public prosecuter did not associate the cause of death as the vaccine in any of the cases, however further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the death in 14 out of 15 cases."

"...nothing will happen because work wasn't published in peer reviewed journals so they'll be ignored by the scientific community."

Later on, in the video of Bhakti himself, he says that we need to look no further than these 15 autopsy results.

The 'newscaster' says at the beginning that they delayed reporting on this to check with experts and went on to state 'everything we know about this article is true'.

It doesn't say how the 15 subjects were selected for further examination, or anything about their medical history. It may be true they were selected for further post mortem examination, but that's not the whole truth by any stretch of the imagination.

It's true, the scientific community will not take notice without a peer review of a published journal paper. It begs the question of why this information has not been published by a journal: the usual reason for refusal to publish being that a paper is flawed and not up to the scientific standards expected. Some journals have higher standards than others which is why some are considered elite, but there are wealth of journals that can be applied to. If you can't get anyone to publish your paper it's an indicator that your work is so clearly and obviously unsound, it's not worthy of peer review, but can be eliminated much earlier in the process.

Bhakti, (was he drunk in that clip?) suggesting 'we need to look no further' than these 15 autopsies is an indication that he's not up to standard when it comes to accepted scientific practise.

The same community that complains that billions of vaccinations worldwide is not a large enough sample for the vaccines to move on from experimental status, will happily say 15 subjects (possibly not randomly selected) is enough to prove that they are harmful.

The video all sounds very scientific, especially with unexplained medical jargon being read out to the masses, but it's relying on those masses not knowing jack shit about the basic scientific practises that are being skimmed over, or ignored completely in this 'report'.

Stuff like this is being ignored by the scientific community because it's not scientific. It's at best entertainment, but likely far more nefarious in it's agenda.

There are enough people who have experienced, or suspect side effects from the vaccine (including myself) for there to be an interest in onging research, but please stop peddling this useless and potentially harmful rubbish designed to create dysfunctional mass hysteria.

A figure of 93% based upon 15 (possibly not randomly selected) subjects does not stand up to scientific peer review, but does make for a splendidly sensational gutter press headline. It's like claiming 93% of people worldwide are redheads based on 15 people from one redheaded family.
^^^^^^That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do..........

Honestly, some people...20 years ago they'd be glued to coronation street and arguing with their neighbours....the internet has a lot to answer for roll eyes
Dec 29, 2021 2:54 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin: ^^^^^^That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do..........

Honestly, some people...20 years ago they'd be glued to coronation street and arguing with their neighbours....the internet has a lot to answer for
But you haven't critiqued my post, just poo-pooed it.

I could have said the video was crap and left it at that, but that would have been as meaningless as your post.

Please feel free to challenge my post in a meaningful way. Things have moved forward considerably since I practised any scientific methdology, so I'm up for a refresher.
Dec 29, 2021 2:59 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper: But you haven't critiqued my post, just poo-pooed it.

I could have said the video was crap and left it at that, but that would have been as meaningless as your post.

Please feel free to challenge my post in a meaningful way. Things have moved forward considerably since I practised any scientific methdology, so I'm up for a refresher.
That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do

That pretty much covered it
Dec 29, 2021 3:19 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
epirb: That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do

That pretty much covered it
Again, feel free to review my post in a meaningful way.

I'm up for a refresher in scientific methodology. tip hat
Dec 29, 2021 3:31 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper: Again, feel free to review my post in a meaningful way.

I'm up for a refresher in scientific methodology.
It comes down to one thing now Jac , our host knows a jab victim . I don't , nor do I know a death from covid victim . I get a sneaking feeling by the end of next year that may change . No amount of huffing and puffing from you will change anything .

How many covid deaths of people do you know personally Jac ?
Dec 29, 2021 3:38 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
I know one his name was Terry, they didn't bother doing an autopsy nothing he died three days after getting the jab. Two people here in Ensay recently got very sick and were hospitalized soon after getting the jab but thankfully have recovered
sigh
Dec 29, 2021 3:50 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
robplum: I know one his name was Terry, they didn't bother doing an autopsy nothing he died three days after getting the jab. Two people here in Ensay recently got very sick and were hospitalized soon after getting the jab but thankfully have recovered
It's getting closer and closer .
Dec 29, 2021 4:34 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
epirb: It comes down to one thing now Jac , our host knows a jab victim . I don't , nor do I know a death from covid victim . I get a sneaking feeling by the end of next year that may change . No amount of huffing and puffing from you will change anything .

How many covid deaths of people do you know personally Jac ?
This doesn't challenge my post which you dismissed without argung your case.

I'm not dismissing that some deaths are caused by vaccinations, I'm dismissing that the video the OP cited provides no proof of what is claimed, or implied. It's quackery and I outlined some of the reasons why it's quackery.

Challenge my post that you dismissed with reasoned argument and we have a basis for debate.

I'm really interested in this stuff because I may, or may not have had an adverse reaction to the AstraZeneca active, or non-active ingredients.

Go ahead, challenge the reasoning in my post that you dismissed without reason.
Dec 29, 2021 4:35 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Pilot172
Pilot172Pilot172Mirambeau, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France1 Threads 15 Posts
Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
Dec 29, 2021 4:37 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
robplum: I know one his name was Terry, they didn't bother doing an autopsy nothing he died three days after getting the jab. Two people here in Ensay recently got very sick and were hospitalized soon after getting the jab but thankfully have recovered
If there was no autopsy, how was it demonstrated that Terry died as a direct result of being vaccinated?
Dec 29, 2021 4:42 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK1 Threads 4,943 Posts
jac_the_gripper: But you haven't critiqued my post, just poo-pooed it.

I could have said the video was crap and left it at that, but that would have been as meaningless as your post.

Please feel free to challenge my post in a meaningful way. Things have moved forward considerably since I practised any scientific methdology, so I'm up for a refresher.
Critiqued it? Where do you think you are? An art gallery? Among a group of same subject PhD's who're discussing your thesis? You're not. It's just a dating site forum where a mix of all sorts throw in their tuppence worth..that's all.....

But that's the thing, you didn't write anything of any substance, just a lot ....an awful lot...of hot air and empty waffle.
Dec 29, 2021 4:51 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin: Critiqued it? Where do you think you are? An art gallery? Among a group of same subject PhD's who're discussing your thesis? You're not. It's just a dating site forum where a mix of all sorts throw in their tuppence worth..that's all.....

But that's the thing, you didn't write anything of any substance, just a lot ....an awful lot...of hot air and empty waffle.
Critique, throw in your tuppence, I'm not bothered what you call it, just do it if you can reason where my post should be challenged.

Share your knowledge so we might all learn something.
Dec 29, 2021 4:52 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Pilot172: Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
Or indeed, what might have happened had there been no lockdowns, other restrictions, or vaccines during this pandemic.

That's not to say that there shouldn't be ongoing research into the vaccines, including the incidence of adverse events. It just needs to be carried out and reported in an ethical and meaningful way.

Quackery provides no more information than does ignoring issues.
Dec 29, 2021 4:55 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK1 Threads 4,943 Posts
Pilot172: Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
You're 100% spot on Pilot and not misinformed. The worst affected are the very ones who're not vaccinated.

It's only a few decades since children were regularly affected by polio and it was an absolute scourge on society and families. These anti vaxers have no idea how lucky they are to live in such a safe world and would be the first in line if their child fell ill to TB or measles....or polio, Vaccinations have made them safe and by extension complacent, stupid and very very foolish...
Dec 29, 2021 5:02 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK1 Threads 4,943 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Critique, throw in your tuppence, I'm not bothered what you call it, just do it if you can reason where my post should be challenged.

Share your knowledge so we might all learn something.


Say something worth reading and I will....
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