I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab. ( Archived) (164)

Dec 29, 2021 10:56 AM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Dec 29, 2021 11:09 AM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Oxycodone
OxycodoneOxycodonePula, Central Croatia Croatia1,285 Posts
Anyone who passes in this life jab or no jab is not just a name on a list. wine
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Dec 29, 2021 12:59 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Oxycodone: Anyone who passes in this life jab or no jab is not just a name on a list.
Seems someone's life has very little value to some people these days..they're nothing more than a number on a list or a statistic on a spreadsheet..sigh tis very sad..
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Dec 29, 2021 1:54 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
blathin: ^^^^^^That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do..........

Honestly, some people...20 years ago they'd be glued to coronation street and arguing with their neighbours....the internet has a lot to answer for
But you haven't critiqued my post, just poo-pooed it.

I could have said the video was crap and left it at that, but that would have been as meaningless as your post.

Please feel free to challenge my post in a meaningful way. Things have moved forward considerably since I practised any scientific methdology, so I'm up for a refresher.
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Dec 29, 2021 1:59 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
jac_the_gripper: But you haven't critiqued my post, just poo-pooed it.

I could have said the video was crap and left it at that, but that would have been as meaningless as your post.

Please feel free to challenge my post in a meaningful way. Things have moved forward considerably since I practised any scientific methdology, so I'm up for a refresher.
That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do

That pretty much covered it
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Dec 29, 2021 2:19 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
epirb: That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do

That pretty much covered it
Again, feel free to review my post in a meaningful way.

I'm up for a refresher in scientific methodology. tip hat
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Dec 29, 2021 2:31 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Again, feel free to review my post in a meaningful way.

I'm up for a refresher in scientific methodology.
It comes down to one thing now Jac , our host knows a jab victim . I don't , nor do I know a death from covid victim . I get a sneaking feeling by the end of next year that may change . No amount of huffing and puffing from you will change anything .

How many covid deaths of people do you know personally Jac ?
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Dec 29, 2021 2:38 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
I know one his name was Terry, they didn't bother doing an autopsy nothing he died three days after getting the jab. Two people here in Ensay recently got very sick and were hospitalized soon after getting the jab but thankfully have recovered
sigh
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Dec 29, 2021 2:50 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: I know one his name was Terry, they didn't bother doing an autopsy nothing he died three days after getting the jab. Two people here in Ensay recently got very sick and were hospitalized soon after getting the jab but thankfully have recovered
It's getting closer and closer .
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Dec 29, 2021 3:34 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
epirb: It comes down to one thing now Jac , our host knows a jab victim . I don't , nor do I know a death from covid victim . I get a sneaking feeling by the end of next year that may change . No amount of huffing and puffing from you will change anything .

How many covid deaths of people do you know personally Jac ?
This doesn't challenge my post which you dismissed without argung your case.

I'm not dismissing that some deaths are caused by vaccinations, I'm dismissing that the video the OP cited provides no proof of what is claimed, or implied. It's quackery and I outlined some of the reasons why it's quackery.

Challenge my post that you dismissed with reasoned argument and we have a basis for debate.

I'm really interested in this stuff because I may, or may not have had an adverse reaction to the AstraZeneca active, or non-active ingredients.

Go ahead, challenge the reasoning in my post that you dismissed without reason.
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Dec 29, 2021 3:35 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
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Dec 29, 2021 3:37 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
robplum: I know one his name was Terry, they didn't bother doing an autopsy nothing he died three days after getting the jab. Two people here in Ensay recently got very sick and were hospitalized soon after getting the jab but thankfully have recovered
If there was no autopsy, how was it demonstrated that Terry died as a direct result of being vaccinated?
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Dec 29, 2021 3:42 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
jac_the_gripper: But you haven't critiqued my post, just poo-pooed it.

I could have said the video was crap and left it at that, but that would have been as meaningless as your post.

Please feel free to challenge my post in a meaningful way. Things have moved forward considerably since I practised any scientific methdology, so I'm up for a refresher.
Critiqued it? Where do you think you are? An art gallery? Among a group of same subject PhD's who're discussing your thesis? You're not. It's just a dating site forum where a mix of all sorts throw in their tuppence worth..that's all.....

But that's the thing, you didn't write anything of any substance, just a lot ....an awful lot...of hot air and empty waffle.
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Dec 29, 2021 3:51 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
blathin: Critiqued it? Where do you think you are? An art gallery? Among a group of same subject PhD's who're discussing your thesis? You're not. It's just a dating site forum where a mix of all sorts throw in their tuppence worth..that's all.....

But that's the thing, you didn't write anything of any substance, just a lot ....an awful lot...of hot air and empty waffle.
Critique, throw in your tuppence, I'm not bothered what you call it, just do it if you can reason where my post should be challenged.

Share your knowledge so we might all learn something.
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Dec 29, 2021 3:52 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Pilot172: Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
Or indeed, what might have happened had there been no lockdowns, other restrictions, or vaccines during this pandemic.

That's not to say that there shouldn't be ongoing research into the vaccines, including the incidence of adverse events. It just needs to be carried out and reported in an ethical and meaningful way.

Quackery provides no more information than does ignoring issues.
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Dec 29, 2021 3:55 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Pilot172: Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
You're 100% spot on Pilot and not misinformed. The worst affected are the very ones who're not vaccinated.

It's only a few decades since children were regularly affected by polio and it was an absolute scourge on society and families. These anti vaxers have no idea how lucky they are to live in such a safe world and would be the first in line if their child fell ill to TB or measles....or polio, Vaccinations have made them safe and by extension complacent, stupid and very very foolish...
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Dec 29, 2021 4:02 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Critique, throw in your tuppence, I'm not bothered what you call it, just do it if you can reason where my post should be challenged.

Share your knowledge so we might all learn something.


Say something worth reading and I will....
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Dec 29, 2021 4:21 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
blathin: Say something worth reading and I will....
Why won't you share your knowledge that is greater than mine?

It comes across as horribly selfish when people are scared and suffering.

If you know why it's sound scientific practise to generalise from a (possibly non-random) sample of 15 subjects and have this data taken seriously without it being journal published, nor peer reviewed, please let me and everyone else in on the secret.
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Dec 29, 2021 5:01 PM CST I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab.
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Why won't you share your knowledge that is greater than mine?

It comes across as horribly selfish when people are scared and suffering.

If you know why it's sound scientific practise to generalise from a (possibly non-random) sample of 15 subjects and have this data taken seriously without it being journal published, nor peer reviewed, please let me and everyone else in on the secret.
Why? Because I'll decide what I'll write on here and what I won't...

I never said it was sound anything, so stop trying to put words in my mouth.

And save your stupid sarcasm for someone it'll work on...it doesn't have any effect on me at all..other than to make you look like a most distasteful character....

Jac, the world of research is very different to how you might visualise it...It's often a pompous supervisor whose whole raison d'etre is to find funding and makes their team's life a misery and in many cases turned it into a box ticking exercise. Great supervisors/P.I's are as rare as hen's teeth these days..

There's a phrase in research "publish or die"..and it doesn't matter what the quality of work is or how thorough it is , if the PhD's don't get published they're kicked to the kerb....and many even have to find their own funding...so they get sick and tired of it, the pressure and leave to go work in the private sector.....

So if that research team (I haven't watched the video) have used only 15 and come up with something of note then it's probably doing better than many many many others...not that that's the right way to do anything....

But this covid is very new and it's amazing what they've learned about it and even come up with a variety of vaccines so quickly...

Something doesn't have to be journal published to be good and worth serious attention...and what journals are you talking about, there are some really poor standard journals out there...Peer review is probably a more credible route to go but who's doing the reviewing though, I can assure you it's rarely someone who understands it as well as you would expect....

I'm afraid a certain margin of hit and miss is probably the best you're going to get right now given the seriousness of this pandemic...and us the people are going to have to accept that we're on the edge of being the guinea pigs..
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