DedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia5,492 posts
snowlynx: You know nothing about science. You know nothing of what is involved when a bright young person learns science for years at second and third level schools, goes to university to learn more and then spends decades in a career where they acquire expertise that you or I could only dream of. These are the people who are worth listening to but you prefer to listen to some loon on the internet who looks around the net until they find something that confirms their ignorant prejudices and spreads it.
You and I both know nothing about medical science but the difference is that I know that I know nothing. We live in a world where everyone is entitled to their opinion, that's the only way a civilised society can work but that doesn't mean every opinion has value, some are worthless and even dangerous.
so lets try again-you dont have any arguments ,just blind obedience to the system
medicine isn`t a exact science at all - do you have confidence in your vaccine ???
jac_the_gripper: If there was no autopsy, how was it demonstrated that Terry died as a direct result of being vaccinated?
Excuse me interjecting but the same thought crossed my mind. Sometimes people's recollection and interpretation of events are cloured by their prejudices.
Just because a person who died had the jab does not mean that the jab was the cause of death. At this moment in time, it is likely a person jabbed up may die of underlying conditions, this does not make the jab the cause of death.
And I guess the most important question is not whether you resist the vaccine, but why?
Because COVID isn't that bad? That means you're a liberal. Because you're terrified of vaccines and the international conspiracy behind them? Not so much liberal. That's perhaps even more right wing than the covid dodgers. At present it's most accurate to say we have a right wing and a far right wing, the left doesn't really exist outside of those who could take it or leave it. Those who aren't that scared either way.
Why people like you continue to spread panic is beyond me. Every pandemic is a war, people get killed in a war. But in the end comes peace. Just let doctors, nurses and scientists do what they must do. And do what they ask. It is not a sheep following it is to be a soldier to help to win a war
Don't you have something else to do? There are always to do something if you think about it.
Pilot172: Lots people fuss about the vaccine. Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
You cannot compare the one shot polio & malaria vaccines to the present day covid ones.
The covid vaccines are ineffective as has been the case with people still catching & dying from the virus, even after the 3 jabs .
These are facts , not opinions.
No science can prove that the severity of the illness depends on whether you’ve had the vaccine.
I don’t read what scientists write , as much as I believe advertisements that promote a product. I look at what’s going on around me . Ie . 5 people have contacted the omicron variant at a Christmas party I attended & the ones who have the worst symptoms are those who’ve been triple jabbed .
Youcannow: You cannot compare the one shot polio & malaria vaccines to the present day covid ones.
The covid vaccines are ineffective as has been the case with people still catching & dying from the virus, even after the 3 jabs .
These are facts , not opinions.
No science can prove that the severity of the illness depends on whether you’ve had the vaccine.
I don’t read what scientists write , as much as I believe advertisements that promote a product. I look at what’s going on around me . Ie . 5 people have contacted the omicron variant at a Christmas party I attended & the ones who have the worst symptoms are those who’ve been triple jabbed .
Lancer here is such an extremist that by posting here you must be ready to be called all the names in the book. But don't worry Lancer I'll not report you as I never do that out of principle. So bring out all your worst adjectives. You're welcome.
It's youcannows comment I'm here for. You say science can not prove that you get a milder effect. With Delta you can. Omicron is a new guy in town. But I like the face of him so far.
pat8lanips: No science can prove that the severity of the illness depends on whether you’ve had the vaccine.
I don’t read what scientists write , as much as I believe advertisements that promote a product.
Can you spot the contradiction there?...
Not really. My point is that governments are clueless & hide behind the scientists when things don’t go according to plan . Every country has different ways of dealing with the virus , whether it be a full , or partial lockdown. Here in England, we have limited restrictions, whereas the rest of GB have tighter ones . That shows to me that even the scientists are clueless as to the severity of this virus .
Grandsiozzie: Lancer here is such an extremist that by posting here you must be ready to be called all the names in the book. But don't worry Lancer I'll not report you as I never do that out of principle. So bring out all your worst adjectives. You're welcome.
It's youcannows comment I'm here for. You say science can not prove that you get a milder effect. With Delta you can. Omicron is a new guy in town. But I like the face of him so far.
Delta was around before any vaccine was available, and before you say that less people died after receiving the jabs , you have to take 2 things into account. First of all , the virus mutated . Secondly, most of the country had already contacted the virus & so have natural antibodies. I wonder if the government can release facts about the numbers of people who have died after already had the virus ..
pat8lanips: No science can prove...followed by... I don;t read what scientists say-
Most would see this as a contradiction.
It's not a perfect world, mistakes will be made, the situation will change... But I'd go with science over belief any day, myself.
What scientists are you referring to . The ones who claim that once you’ve contacted the virus , it’s unlikely you won’t catch it again , or the ones who claim that one dose of the vaccine will give you immunity?
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You and I both know nothing about medical science but the difference is that I know that I know nothing. We live in a world where everyone is entitled to their opinion, that's the only way a civilised society can work but that doesn't mean every opinion has value, some are worthless and even dangerous.
medicine isn`t a exact science at all - do you have confidence in your vaccine ???