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Mar 6, 2022 11:57 AM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Selenite: Oh God Yes!! There's a time for speaking and a time for silence.

It gets better and better. But when a "dark night of the soul" moment happens, its intensity is equal with how bright the light was while I could perceive its brightness. I guess total absence of duality (perfect balance) is not a permanent state for me yet...
banana Sometimes it is great to notice how afraid our ego is and wants us to be. laugh The brightness is I beleive what LOO calls density. It is essentially a level of consciousness but that's a large topic.

Non duality is a good avenue to peruse, to assist in understanding a more balanced path in life. I think without any indication of nonduality there's a chance of constant imbalance. dunno




btw .. the "Oh God Yes!!" start, took me really far away from the rest of your post for a while. It might be helpful to me if you end your posts that way, rather than beginning with it. laugh
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Mar 6, 2022 11:59 AM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Circlip: I'm sorry, BB, but all that is meaningless. It says absolutely nothing. All I can do is assume it means something to you and you derive value from it, but I'm afraid I will never understand it. Let's put it down to the wonderful diversity of mankind, and embrace it as such.
thumbs up applause

beer
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Mar 6, 2022 12:35 PM CST What is the difference?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
BB_snickers: Having too much fun with life meant that people were less concerned with the BS trappings of a church run government.

The original purpose of marriage aside from enforcing monogamy, or so I have read was that they had to come up with a way to deal with property and assets legally when divorce happened and legal aka gov. endorsed marriage/divorce was the answer.

Of course then the 'church' decided to demonize divorce with countless guilt trips that said you could not divorce and you had to stay in the misery and deny any liking for all other people.

The church is largely responsible for a lot of the fear run government edicts that we live by without questioning, even today.
Be that as it may monogamy is such as asset when it comes to rearing children. And people remain babies for longer because of social progress. Monogamy isn't what we want but it does increasingly become what it takes to stop punks running wild in the street.
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Mar 6, 2022 1:01 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: Whoop, there it is!
yay
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Mar 6, 2022 1:03 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: Romantic love is a "mind" thing in my opinion.Yep agreed EW. All is mind stuff.

Yep an energy exchange exists. (chakras) I forget what Law of One calls it so I won't even try to add to this.

you are so intuitive and mostly open that I doubt you would miss the fact that the ego is bringin the fear here
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Mar 6, 2022 1:09 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: Yep, I'm not sure that I am either. I keep referring back to the point of actually being here in this ethereal mind drop and that I think or prefer to think that there's a good reason in pursuing the physical nature of this as it brings about an evolution that just thinking about it or talking about it cannot do.

Realistically one can talk all they want about an experience but the only way to know it is to have it.
And still by having it we shall be none the wiser if it's the same experience as somebody else who might be sharing their experience in words. Because everything is relative and we can only "hear" within the limitations imposed by our own experiences, perception and understanding of any given description. And even as an empath and intuitive, still I only "hear" and "see" within the limitations of where I'm at this side of the veil. In spite of the many glimpses beyond the veil.

BB_snickers: Thank you. I will pm you once I have figured out just exactly what I'd like assistance with or maybe it'll just come to me without figuring .
Are you going to let your mind work it out? laugh
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Mar 6, 2022 1:14 PM CST What is the difference?
Circlip
CirclipCirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK22 Threads 826 Posts
Selenite: Are you going to let your mind work it out?
Well I might not be any the wiser for starting this thread, but at least it's had one positive outcome; it's brought you two kids together. wine smile
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Mar 6, 2022 1:19 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: Sometimes it is great to notice how afraid our ego is and wants us to be. The brightness is I beleive what LOO calls density. It is essentially a level of consciousness but that's a large topic.

Non duality is a good avenue to peruse, to assist in understanding a more balanced path in life. I think without any indication of nonduality there's a chance of constant imbalance.
I like snake medicine!!! During an exhibition a snake made its way into the room and wrapped itself round the easel where my "Duality" painting was being exhibited. Snake medicine's main message (as I found out later) is to not fear duality as without the 2 poles there could be no balance. It's not duality we should worry about but rather the lack of balance between the 2 components of it. One of the things the snake represents is cosmic consciousness. Anyway, after the exhibition finished I created a snake medicine painting.




BB_snickers: btw .. the "Oh God Yes!!" start, took me really far away from the rest of your post for a while. It might be helpful to me if you end your posts that way, rather than beginning with it.
That was funny!! laugh laugh
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Mar 6, 2022 1:26 PM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Be that as it may monogamy is such as asset when it comes to rearing children. And people remain babies for longer because of social progress. Monogamy isn't what we want but it does increasingly become what it takes to stop punks running wild in the street.
This certainly appears to be true. I think less punks running wild would be possible if love and compassion were taught in childhood the same as maths etc, as well as being responsible for choice.

For now, a few responsible parents will have to suffice.
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Mar 6, 2022 1:52 PM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Selenite: I like snake medicine!!! During an exhibition a snake made its way into the room and wrapped itself round the easel where my "Duality" painting was being exhibited. Snake medicine's main message (as I found out later) is to not fear duality as without the 2 poles there could be no balance. It's not duality we should worry about but rather the lack of balance between the 2 components of it. One of the things the snake represents is cosmic consciousness.

cool I like the symbolism. And the directive is apt for sure.

Selenite: Anyway, after the exhibition finished I created a snake medicine painting.
Well this would be great to see if you feel inclined.

Selenite: That was funny!!
Oh My God Yes! I often regard my unexpected horniness as funny too. gift
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Mar 6, 2022 2:16 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: I like the symbolism. And the directive is apt for sure.

Well this would be great to see if you feel inclined.

Oh My God Yes! I often regard my unexpected horniness as funny too.
Embedded image from another site
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Mar 6, 2022 2:35 PM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
This painting is pretty cool. There's some extraneous things happening on my seeing this. Something like a deja vu or repeated experience as well as a memory returning. Not what I expected. I will have to sit with this when I have some time because there's something there that isn't necessarily about art for me. confused

Oh thanks for posting it. wink
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Mar 6, 2022 2:38 PM CST What is the difference?
Circlip
CirclipCirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK22 Threads 826 Posts
BB_snickers: Not what I expected. I will have to sit with this when I have some time because there's something there that isn't necessarily about art for me.
Good chat up line, BB. thumbs up

smile
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Mar 6, 2022 2:50 PM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Selenite:
Clarity is great most of time. When I don't want to see or hear, I stay at home and off social media ...
This is probably a good practice.

Selenite: @ benign actually being in your dictionary
laugh

Ya, I am actually a fairly reserved individual and tend to be more benign than openly friendly, or in your face in real life. I do like some down and dirty though and of course posting online in a virtual & anonymous world is little different. If I'm not being badgered or pushed my personal lexicon would tend toward loving and or possibly adoringly brash. That might show here I guess. dunno

I'm not entirely sure how to describe myself, though benign doesn't seem fitting for some reason. Multidimensional has already been taken. wink
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Mar 6, 2022 2:54 PM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Circlip: Good chat up line, BB.
Circ !! Welcome back!

I thought you'd left and totally abandoned us here to our own devices.banana

Can't say as I missed you but there is now a soft spot in my heart for you. smitten
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Mar 6, 2022 3:11 PM CST What is the difference?
Circlip
CirclipCirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK22 Threads 826 Posts
BB_snickers: Circ !! Welcome back!


Can't say as I missed you
You could if you wanted to. blues
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Mar 6, 2022 3:15 PM CST What is the difference?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
BB_snickers:

I am not buddhist save some reading about it, but there's this buddhist idiom that says
"if on your path to enlightenment you come across Buddha, (the enlightened one) kill him."

Essentially it's saying what Bod said in the beginning of this thread. Enlightenment isn't achievable, it's a never ending path toward the light. You cannot reach the end, and as such actually be enlightened. Bod will correct me I trust if I've butchered the saying or the idea.

It isn't buddhist as far as I know to translate 'light' (en-light-ened) as a density of consciousness though?Bod?Other disciplines do.
I haven't heard that idiom but suspect there is more 'around it'.
Enlightenment is the ultimate achievement for a Buddhist and also to become a bodhisattva. A bodhisattva, fully enlightened one (a buddha) lives with the awarness that he, or she are not separate from all other sentient beings, there is no self. Through this awareness they cannot suffer the delusions of normal beings, sadness, anger, attachement etc. To attain bodhisattva may take many lifetimes of suffering, (samsara) and this is where karmic history comes in. To gather merit and gain positive karma takes the student closer to bodhisattva and eventually nirvana, no re-birth, no samsara.
Most people who study Buddhism do so for the infinate wisdom of the Buddha's teachings, past down through empowerments directly from the Buddha through the ages, but don't necessarily
expect to achieve enlightenment.
To become enlightened (a buddha) is extremely rare and almost unobtainable, but to take on the journey and follow the path (lam rim) will without doubt bring great peace of mind and through the loving and compassion that will follow will guarantee a more fruitful and meaningful life. This is how I understand the meaning of enlightenment. I've never met anyone who was truly on the path of lam rim to be anything but full of loving and full of the real joy of life.

This that follows is a little quote from a site i've found. The site really does explain enlightenment in a way that can maybe understood, (and is much better than my clumsy words) for anyone who may be interested, I've added a link...

"Enlightenment is not something that benefits "you" or "me." It is the absence of the illusion of there being a "you" or "me" to benefit.
Enlightenment is held up as the ultimate goal of Buddhism, but ironically it is only when the concept of being a "someone" who could achieve anything is abandoned that enlightenment naturally occurs."

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Mar 6, 2022 3:20 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: This painting is pretty cool. There's some extraneous things happening on my seeing this. Something like a deja vu or repeated experience as well as a memory returning. Not what I expected. I will have to sit with this when I have some time because there's something there that isn't necessarily about art for me.

Oh thanks for posting it.
Sooo had to look up "extraneous" laugh

Intriguing response!!!hmmm

Tell us more when you know more about what it's unlocked ...
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Mar 6, 2022 3:25 PM CST What is the difference?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
BB_snickers: This is probably a good practice.



Ya, I am actually a fairly reserved individual and tend to be more benign than openly friendly, or in your face in real life. I do like some down and dirty though and of course posting online in a virtual & anonymous world is little different. If I'm not being badgered or pushed my personal lexicon would tend toward loving and or possibly adoringly brash. That might show here I guess.

I'm not entirely sure how to describe myself, though benign doesn't seem fitting for some reason. Multidimensional has already been taken.
Adoringly brash sounds like an interesting combination!! laugh

No benign definitely does not fit your vibrational energy ... multifaceted could work may be ...
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Mar 6, 2022 3:28 PM CST What is the difference?
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Circlip: You could if you wanted to.
ah, bless you... and we are one so it's technically impossible to be separated

...and so missing you has no real meaning. dancing

However are you able to ethereally or remote view visit another? Maybe in their dreams? banana

I know people that do this, but again it's best to ask for permission. However some people, roll eyes yanno, some people.
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