Why dating services are in decline ( Archived) (24)

Sep 7, 2007 7:57 AM CST Why dating services are in decline
SciFiGuy
SciFiGuySciFiGuyCulver City, USA23 Threads 121 Posts
First off, I'll state for the record that I'm NOT looking to date... but I am interested in the idea of running an intro service, just so I'd be able to do things my competitors weren't willing to do. tongue

It's hardly a secret that the dating service industry has been in decline for the last couple of years, and as a person who owned 2 businesses before this publishing house, it's not hard to figure out why. The people who run dating services simply haven't been pushing the envelope.

After I read about the ways Henry Ford and Ray Kroc ran their business empires, I knew our dating services have been making some pretty bad moves. Henry Ford taught me that you should democratize your product rather than gentrify it (a powerful lesson Louis Chevrolet learned only after going broke), and Ray Kroc taught me that by coming up with a simple standard, you can buy out your competition or drive them out of business.

To elucidate... I'd start by calling my company United Introductions or something like that. It sounds big and intimidating if you're a competitor. Then I'd offer my equivalent of the Model T or the Big Mac: a standard, all-up introductions package costing no more than 300 dollars, aimed squarely at the working-class single who makes less that $70K a year. (The SoCal market is already glutted with high-end matchmakers who command fees of $3K at the very least.) There would be an online division, too, but it would have a catch: you'd need to show up in person at United Introductions' office for an interview, before being granted online privileges. That way, the staff would know whether or not you were a kook or a troll.
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Sep 7, 2007 8:07 AM CST Why dating services are in decline
b_n_d
b_n_db_n_dGlasgow, USA60 Threads 3,675 Posts
Who is going to have this special training, to judge who's a kook or troll? One thing that would accomplish, is you should be void of scammers.thumbs up
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Sep 7, 2007 3:30 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
SciFiGuy
SciFiGuySciFiGuyCulver City, USA23 Threads 121 Posts
See above.
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Sep 7, 2007 4:31 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
Leana76
Leana76Leana76Prescott Valley, Arizona USA39 Threads 918 Posts
Of my experience on them (since Dec. 2004 off and on), I had some luck and then I didn't.

One I really got along with real good and things were going great, until after the 3rd date he dropped off of the face of the earth. I think he said he was moving, but he never told me goodbye. Oh well.
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Sep 7, 2007 4:48 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
I don't see the dating services as on the decline, your own words and ideas are proof of that.

I do see many charging fees for services they cannot deliver while at the same time offer you a discounted price if you can enlist others to join.

a major company I'll call GE is notorious for exaggerating their numbers of members even to the point of currently in litigation in several states by each States Attorney General.

If anything they should place guidelines and force these services to maintain a higher standard of customer satisfaction.

but dating services on the decline, Nope I don't see it. over saturation possibly.
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Sep 7, 2007 4:59 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
SciFiGuy
SciFiGuySciFiGuyCulver City, USA23 Threads 121 Posts
You obviously haven't been reading their trade journals.
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Sep 7, 2007 5:20 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
Leana76
Leana76Leana76Prescott Valley, Arizona USA39 Threads 918 Posts
But I do believe a lot of them don't even read the profiles of someone, before writing a message to them. My last 2 dates didn't and wanted me to explain every little detail and stuff. Before I ever respond I read their profile first and then go from there.
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Sep 7, 2007 5:54 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
b_n_d
b_n_db_n_dGlasgow, USA60 Threads 3,675 Posts
Now, do you really think people on dating sites are reading trade journals? You joined one didn't you?
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Sep 7, 2007 6:09 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
twinkles1994
twinkles1994twinkles1994Vancouver, Washington USA84 Threads 2,258 Posts
One person's kook or troll is another person's prince charming. Why should they be interviewed before being granted online access? That little guideline is a way of discriminating against people. Your staff would choose who gets on the site and who doesn't. They may deny someone based on their own preferences. What about the people who can't get to your offices? What are they supposed to do? I seriously think you need to put more thought in your grand scheme.professor professor professor
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Sep 7, 2007 8:45 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
SciFiGuy
SciFiGuySciFiGuyCulver City, USA23 Threads 121 Posts
I guess at this point, I'm just supposed to throw up my hands, and say "okay, okay, I'll go along with the herd mentality"?

Hahaha!!! Ain't gonna happen, bud.yay
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Sep 7, 2007 8:55 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
I know of some dating lines, that require a copy of a passport faxed or scanned & mailed to them. That weeds out a lot of crooks.
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Sep 7, 2007 8:59 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
Icekrystal24
Icekrystal24Icekrystal24Glasgow, USA74 Threads 1,690 Posts
Are you planning on having offices across the world? To interview each prospective applicant to your dating site? This is not a realistic concenption......and dating services, such as that, have been out-dated since the internet took off. And who's to say those who show up for personal interviews aren't kooks or trolls? Who are you to judge who is right for whom?

confused
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Sep 7, 2007 9:09 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
There are alot of dating sites that operate this way, such as having to show up personally for an interview before being allowed the use of their network, etc. All they can really do is run a background check on each individual to see that they do not have a criminal record, etc. I do not know their success rate, however. I am sure it is not the best, but then again ... maybe. confused dunno
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Sep 8, 2007 5:39 AM CST Why dating services are in decline
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
very true i have not, i read the complaints against the litigation against every company and especially the trade journals are chock full of how things are Small bussiness assoc, claimas there is room for more small business owners yet I see more vacnat and empty store fronts I s small business owners getting pushed out once the are some what established... who picks up htose customers when a small busniess fails a conglomerate, even your dating services are becoming more and more franchised.

Good luck in you pursuit.

I'll not pay for that kind of service, but then again I mow my own lawn and clean my own house toorolling on the floor laughing

OK house work I could improve on.grin
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Sep 8, 2007 6:19 AM CST Why dating services are in decline
arabella
arabellaarabellaNear Farmington, Maine USA98 Threads 1 Polls 6,199 Posts
"Working class singles" huh ????

Best of Luck laugh
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Sep 8, 2007 6:22 AM CST Why dating services are in decline
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
thumbs up
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Sep 8, 2007 10:12 AM CST Why dating services are in decline
SciFiGuy
SciFiGuySciFiGuyCulver City, USA23 Threads 121 Posts
Still, I'd start and run United Introductions, partly to throw a slight scare into the hoity-toity upscale matchmakers in and around Los Angeles (out-of-area applicants would be referred to my competitors, who'd charge them more and give them poor service).dancing
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Sep 8, 2007 2:25 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
A friend suggested a site called singlesnet so I joined. Every time someone looked at my profile I got an email from the site. That was ok but they would match me up with people based on their criteria, not mine and they were almost always wrong. They also had "featured" members who paid a monthly fee. They were the only ones you could email but about 80% of them had no picture on their profile. But by far the worst thing that happened was I would get what they call "Flirts", like our flowers but there were only about 5 pre-defined comments you could use. This effectivly prevented you from connecting with anyone without becoming a "featured" member. I would get these "flirts" from women who looked like they could be "Sports Illustrated" swimsuit models. Of course they weren't "featured" members therefore to contact them I had to, drumroll please....Pay Up! Needless to say I quit that site a few weeks ago. I think the gov needs to investigate these Paygo dating sites to flush out the scams.

To SciFiGuy: good luck at designing a better mousetrap but you have to go some to beat Connecting singles. The biggest obstacle you will have to overcome is:

It must be so outrageously good, that people would be willing to pay for something they are already getting for free.
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Sep 8, 2007 2:27 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
This is true. It must be so outrageously good, that people would be willing to pay for something they are already getting for free. thumbs up
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Sep 8, 2007 3:15 PM CST Why dating services are in decline
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
Hhm .... I have to wonder how Connecting Singles would view you talking about your own dating site on their dating site? Trolling for potential members for your site????????????????
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