The Drug Paxel ( Archived) (40)

Nov 9, 2007 3:32 PM CST The Drug Paxel
zanteandy
zanteandyzanteandysurrey, Surrey, England UK31 Threads 284 Posts
good on you x
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Nov 9, 2007 3:33 PM CST The Drug Paxel
curlywolf
curlywolfcurlywolfmontreal, Quebec Canada402 Threads 7,052 Posts
N and A hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug
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Nov 9, 2007 3:36 PM CST The Drug Paxel
zanteandy
zanteandyzanteandysurrey, Surrey, England UK31 Threads 284 Posts
thanks
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Nov 9, 2007 3:40 PM CST The Drug Paxel
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
thanks Curlywolfhug hug hug and you too Andyhug hug hug xx
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Nov 9, 2007 3:41 PM CST The Drug Paxel
zanteandy
zanteandyzanteandysurrey, Surrey, England UK31 Threads 284 Posts
hello again kitty u should talk with your doctor about how u feel and get him to maybe refer u to someone more experienced than himself i had loads of help from loads of good people u have to ask for help sometimes nothing wrong with that hope u feel better soon andy hug
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Nov 9, 2007 5:00 PM CST The Drug Paxel
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Thanks for the advise the doctor said I would have to be on the medication for life. I think that at the times I do feel down it is because of what is going on in my life and not of the paxil, but I did not want the paxil to make it worse. The doctor gave me medication for depression which I don't know if I am depressed, I just wish I could change things.
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Nov 9, 2007 5:03 PM CST The Drug Paxel
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
I would hope you will listen to your Dr and not a bunch of opinions you get on a singles dating site.!!doh
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Nov 9, 2007 5:04 PM CST The Drug Paxel
SusieRR
SusieRRSusieRRnortheast, Ohio USA78 Threads 3 Polls 2,122 Posts
I Don't know ! But if you have been on it for years as you say, and you have not had bad side effects so far, and HAVE had bad side effects going OFF it, I would say .... consider those things.

Sorry to hear of your dilemma.

I have the same problems wondering if I should go on Fosamax or not, because of the side effects and posted that question in here and NOT ONE person answered.

Good luck.comfort
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Nov 9, 2007 5:05 PM CST The Drug Paxel
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
I know it is not good to stop by yourself, ask your doctor.
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Nov 9, 2007 5:07 PM CST The Drug Paxel
mick470
mick470mick470prior lake, Minnesota USA20 Threads 1 Polls 218 Posts
Xanax is another one.You have to get weaned off that or you won't go to sleep for days.
Do what the doctor says..you must!!!!comfort
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Nov 9, 2007 5:10 PM CST The Drug Paxel
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Did you talk to your doctor or get a second opinion about Fosamax. I don't know nothing about it but if it has side effects you would have to decide if it is worth it.
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Nov 10, 2007 1:43 AM CST The Drug Paxel
zanteandy
zanteandyzanteandysurrey, Surrey, England UK31 Threads 284 Posts
we were trying to give a bit of advise mate whats your problem if u dont like the bunch on here then u know what to do a ---- off always one ?good luck to udoh
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Nov 10, 2007 1:46 AM CST The Drug Paxel
zanteandy
zanteandyzanteandysurrey, Surrey, England UK31 Threads 284 Posts
she needed abit of comfort and advice so we gave her it il think u find we did advise to get proper help
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Nov 10, 2007 1:54 AM CST The Drug Paxel
zerstoren47
zerstoren47zerstoren47San Diego, California USA8 Posts
I think you should try to get off of it. Not cold turkey though. The problem is your doctor isn't of like mind
All these F*kkin' drugs are highly addictive and require managed reduction. Otherwise scary, dangerous side effects. Like the zapping you had.
Most doctors would give you I forgot the medical term for it but Valium for the sleeping pill drugs. I know there's something for Paxil too, I just saw it the other day
as I have an old GF who takes that for anxiety too. Go look it up
We aren't supposed to post links are we? It's Wiki-something.
Great write up on Paxil, withdrawal, etc.
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Nov 10, 2007 2:01 AM CST The Drug Paxel
zanteandy
zanteandyzanteandysurrey, Surrey, England UK31 Threads 284 Posts
i agree with u mate she can come of it i was addicted to valium sleeping pills anti ds and others illegal it took me awhile to come off six weeks of hell in a hospital with hardly any sleep but i did it and so can she i wish her good luck
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Nov 10, 2007 2:42 AM CST The Drug Paxel
DinaD
DinaDDinaDKingsport, Tennessee USA11 Threads 735 Posts
Yeah, I would have a long talk with your doctor. If he says you will be on them for life, then don't just try to take yourself off of them
I was given zoloft for PMS ..0.o. The doc said it was a Saratonin blocker and would help somehow.
I think he was way off lol I was having huge problems in life at the time.
So, the PMS issues were probably a result of the stress, resulting from all the crap going on in my life.

But the doctor of course, just wanted to give me drugs to get me out of the office quicker.
Anyway, I did not like the way I felt on them (zoned out, forgetful, tired), and after a while I took myself off of them, with bad results.
I am ok now though, but I really should not have done that on my own.

I don't take anything for depression or anything else now. I am no longer in the situation I was in, and feel fine (most of the time).

I have had bad times when I thought that everyone would be better off if I were not here. Actually, more like I would barely be missed (other than maybe one person). But I am to stubborn to make everyone happy and go away :) Just always remember tomorrow is a new day, and a new chance. Things do get better.


hug hug hug
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Nov 10, 2007 2:55 AM CST The Drug Paxel
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
you doctor is the best guide.. all medications have potential sideeffects and no one should try to wean them or stop them by themselves ... in some cases it could be dangerous.

Life is beautiful dear .... its like a paintbox ... with all the shades in there ... you just need to look at the grey ones as just another color...

you wil see there r a lot of people with issues all around the place ..... everywhere ..... part of life ... smile , walk with your head held up and consult your doctor in this regard.handshake
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Nov 10, 2007 3:08 AM CST The Drug Paxel
GldDgs
GldDgsGldDgsWay Downeast, USA1 Threads 55 Posts
Its spelled- P A X I L, not "E L"

If you read about Paxil, or any Antidepressant you will see that NONE are designed for long term use. They have not been tested for safety of long term use and they have not been tested to see if they damage organs or the brain. The possible and more probable side effects should be enough to scare anyone from using them. Some of the side effecta are- Depression, Anxiety and Suicide....Isn't that what it is supposed to cure?

Donald Rumsfeld was instrumental in reducing US FDA drug approval times from 7 years to 9 months. Google "Donald Rumsfeld, FDA, Nutrasweet" to read about that and how Nutrasweet and Splenda/"Sucralose" came out of chemical weapons research and are very dangerous to the point people have dropped dead from using them.

Don't just Google- "Paxil" Google- "Paxil side effects" or "Antidepressants brain damage" "paxil danger side effects" (no quotation marks)

Yes, depression causes suicidal thoughts, and suicidal thoughts cause Suicide .If you are having them while on AD's then how can the AD's be working? Are you better than you were before taking them?

All AD's contain sedatives, I think these are what people feel as relief when they get on AD's. The drug is not supposed to kick in for about 4 weeks, yet people feel better in just a few days. In 6 to 9 months time they often are "flat" or backslide into deeper depression.

Paxil is hard to get off of, but they all are, which makes you wonder why they say they are safe. Paxil needs to be reduced over a 3 to4 week period(this does not mean you have to take it every day, bu the dose should be lowered)and the person needs to have a support system(good friends) to help then through the brain zapping, feeling of pressure in the head, pounding headaches, suicidal thoughts, hysteria, crying, confusion, doubt, etc. for at least a month if not 2 or 3. It will still take 6-8 months before the person feels half way normal and 2-3 years before they feel "better"

These drugs were called "the miracle drugs" "a new class of AD's" but this was just big pharma marketing. Thse drugs are very dangerous.

I have known a few people that took their own life while on them long term.

Doctors get ALL expense paid trips to the Islands etc. for pushing these drugs, and the more they prescribe the more trips they get. This is outrageous, people should be beating down their reps doors to get this stopped.

Remember, you are in control of your life, not your doctor. Do tell your doctor if you plan on weaning yourself off these drugs, do read up about it, and most defiantly do have a support system in place for at least 2 months. Fight the urge to stay on them, that is just addiction fighting back.

Look into alternative treatments(diet, exercise, herbal, supplements etc.) to fight anxiety. There is lots of info out there now and many things work. You have to change something to get results. If you have money start with massage, a sauna or hot tub. Learn deep breathing exercises. Get out and walk, go to museums, events, lectures, keep your mind occupied.
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Nov 10, 2007 3:16 AM CST The Drug Paxel
Dark1Angel8
Dark1Angel8Dark1Angel8Omaha, Nebraska USA21 Threads 704 Posts
I definitely wouldn't try to take yourself off of it, Kitty. If you are unsure about its effects on you, maybe ask your doctor if there's another med you can try without the effects.

I have a friend who tried to take herself off of Effexor and that seriously screwed her up so much that she ended up in the hospital.

Work with your doc with your concerns. I agree with the doc that its depression that caused suicide, not the med; all the med "PROBABLY" (since I'm not a doc or pharmacist) does is take away that anxiety that people get along with suicidal thoughts and makes it easier to just do it.

Talk to your doc, hon. I'm sure there's other alternatives if you don't care for the way this one makes you feel....
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Nov 10, 2007 3:23 AM CST The Drug Paxel
GldDgs
GldDgsGldDgsWay Downeast, USA1 Threads 55 Posts
Another thing, the drug companies are the same people who write the book that tells the Shrinks/Docs what, how much, how long etc. to prescribe these drugs. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

What they usaually do when you tell them you are quitting, is to switch to something else, then add a couple more. Many people are on 3 to 7 different drugs.

Don't buy into the advise above that the Docs know best, they don't, they know only what they were taught in schools/seminars sponsored by big pharma.

If you read any AD pamphlet, it will say something like "we are not sure exactly what causes depression" or "we are not sure exactly how Paxil works to fight depression, but we think" but at the same time they describe how the Paxil molecule "locks into, key like, the receptors" So basically they are contradicting themselves.

Talk to people who have been on it then quit, they know more than these doctor$ do. Very few docs have been on it yet they tell you how safe it is. Medicine is more about money than lives these days. If it isn't, then why is there a push to privatize Canadian health care now? Greed, greed, greed.
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