I never would have thought that I would even dream of voting for Hillary, But She and Obama are the best!!!! I mean Mccain?? Give me a break..!! Hillary and Obama actually Give a DAMN!!
I use to be Repulican mostly for the moral issues that evangelicals have, but I cant just vote on that anymore. There is so much more. Mccain thinks he is some WAR BADASS that will continue to police the world,,....while our own country people of middle to lower class suffer. I have lived in other Countries and I know how AWESOME it feels to have Health CARE!! and for no one to be homeless unless they chose to be. We can have the same here, and with Hilary or Obama we will have A much better country, A balanced Country, Not so bent on going to war...
I voted for Bush Both times, I look at him and think .... Was I a fool??? he is so Ignorant!!!
If it's gonna be either one of them, please let it be Obama.. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is something about her I just do not trust.
modernday_cowboy: I never would have thought that I would even dream of voting for Hillary, But She and Obama are the best!!!! I mean Mccain?? Give me a break..!! Hillary and Obama actually Give a DAMN!!
I use to be Repulican mostly for the moral issues that evangelicals have, but I cant just vote on that anymore. There is so much more. Mccain thinks he is some WAR BADASS that will continue to police the world,,....while our own country people of middle to lower class suffer. I have lived in other Countries and I know how AWESOME it feels to have Health CARE!! and for no one to be homeless unless they chose to be. We can have the same here, and with Hilary or Obama we will have A much better country, A balanced Country, Not so bent on going to war...
I voted for Bush Both times, I look at him and think .... Was I a fool??? he is so Ignorant!!!VOte!!! for Hilary or Obama!!
I think they're both should be in the oval office. Right wing white supremacists gonna bust a seal. Woman and a black man running the country. Outrageous!
Hillary and Bill were, are and will be crooks. Both of them will not stop at anything to get to their goals. Read up on some of the scams they were involved with. I don't know abt Obama, McCain has an air of liberalism around him. Too bad Giuliani is no longer in the race.
I am having trouble with Hillary's glib remarks at times.
I quote.....'pantsuit running the white house' and 'not one day longer'. Sure it is funny. But this next fours years are really critical to our country and the world. Sure it gets attention and maybe some votes and keeps her main voting block of women solid behind her.
But seems to me we (American)...or maybe the political process has let this become a popularity contest. Fine, she has new ideas and wants change. Tell me where the change is, why it is better, how do we do it. Give me the facts as best you know them to be. I want substance, not giggles.
There was a old circus man by the name of PT Barnum...his motto was....a fool is born every minute. I am not saying the we (the American voters) are being foolish in desiring change. Am saying we are being foolish unless we know what that change is.
This is not about politics for me. Rather getting the American public to understand...that unless you understand the candidate's platform......you might be placing your vote (support) in the wrong place.
Dig in with solid research and ask the tough questions of them all, is my best advice.
HealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
Do any of you know anything about the Council on Foreign Relations? (CFR) The CFR was founded in 1921 in order to build a "network of globalist support groups."
The CFR is highly influential because its membership includes high- ranking politicians. Among them are Senators and Congressmen, some of whom are running for President in 2008. In addition, there are high- ranking politicians who have connections with the CFR (and are thereby influenced by it), even though they are not members of it.
In 2005, the CFR produced a Task Force Report which was published as a book with the title "Building a North American Community." (You can get the book at
According to the Foreword, the CFR Task Force offers detailed proposals that are based on the "Texas summit of March 2005." This was a meeting that President Bush held at his ranch with President Vicente Fox of Mexico and Prime Minister Paul Martin of Canada. After that meeting, the three heads of state issued a press release announcing that they had made an agreement to form the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP).
The Foreword also says that the "central recommendation" of the report is the establishment of a "North American economic and security community" by the year 2010. The identity would be trinational, rather than national. We would lose our national sovereignty.
We can expect the recommendations of the CFR to be taken seriously, because many of the Democrats and Republicans who are running for President in 2008 are either members of the CFR, or else have ties with it. In addition, others are globalists, and the CFR is a globalist organization. (The following information comes from the "US Presidential Candidate Fact Sheet" of Hope for the World, Summer, 2007. The research was done by Gary Kah and Carl Teichrib.)
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES
Joe Biden is President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Hillary Clinton was a guest speaker at the CFR. In addition, her husband founded the Clinton Global Initiative. Both Clintons are strongly globalist.
Christopher Dodd is a member of the CFR.
Al Gore has been a speaker at the CFR and appears to be generally supportive of the organization. There is no definitive CFR membership information, but many secondary sources present him as being a member.
Mike Gravel doesn't appear to be a CFR member, but he is strongly globalist.
Dennis Kucinich is not a member of the CFR, but he is strongly globalist.
Barack Obama's wife Michelle is the director of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. (This is the Chicago branch of the CFR, but under a different name.) Barack Obama has spoken at the CFR in Washington, DC and at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.
Bill Richardson is a member of the CFR.
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES
Sam Brownback doesn't have any connections with the CFR. Neither does Jim Gilmore.
Newt Gingrich is a member of the CFR. He is also a 33rd degree Mason.
Rudi Giuliani has given presentations to the CFR. The law firm that he works with (Bracewell & Giuliani) is directly involved with the NAFTA superhighway program.
Mike Huckabee doesn't have any substantial connections with the CFR or other globalist organizations.
Duncan Hunter has consistently voted against globalist free trade programs.
John McCain is a member of the CFR.
Ron Paul is the founder of the Liberty Committee. He has consistently opposed globalism.
Mitt Romney isn't connected with the CFR.
Tom Tancredo isn't connected with the CFR. He has taken a strong stand on securing our borders.
Fred Thompson is a member of the CFR. According to the US Presidential Candidate Fact Sheet, he may not be as conservative as he appears.
modernday_cowboy: I never would have thought that I would even dream of voting for Hillary, But She and Obama are the best!!!! I mean Mccain?? Give me a break..!! Hillary and Obama actually Give a DAMN!!
I use to be Repulican mostly for the moral issues that evangelicals have, but I cant just vote on that anymore. There is so much more. Mccain thinks he is some WAR BADASS that will continue to police the world,,....while our own country people of middle to lower class suffer. I have lived in other Countries and I know how AWESOME it feels to have Health CARE!! and for no one to be homeless unless they chose to be. We can have the same here, and with Hilary or Obama we will have A much better country, A balanced Country, Not so bent on going to war...
I voted for Bush Both times, I look at him and think .... Was I a fool??? he is so Ignorant!!!VOte!!! for Hilary or Obama!!
The upside to hillary is that she'll garnish anyone's wages who refuses to sign up for the free healthcare.
(her words, not mine) Somehow I feel an oxymoron here...... I'll figure it out...just give me a minute.
TTom50: I am having trouble with Hillary's glib remarks at times.
I quote.....'pantsuit running the white house' and 'not one day longer'. Sure it is funny. But this next fours years are really critical to our country and the world. Sure it gets attention and maybe some votes and keeps her main voting block of women solid behind her.
But seems to me we (American)...or maybe the political process has let this become a popularity contest. Fine, she has new ideas and wants change. Tell me where the change is, why it is better, how do we do it. Give me the facts as best you know them to be. I want substance, not giggles.
There was a old circus man by the name of PT Barnum...his motto was....a fool is born every minute. I am not saying the we (the American voters) are being foolish in desiring change. Am saying we are being foolish unless we know what that change is.
This is not about politics for me. Rather getting the American public to understand...that unless you understand the candidate's platform......you might be placing your vote (support) in the wrong place.
Dig in with solid research and ask the tough questions of them all, is my best advice.
You're expecting people to actually do some work and to also think. Damn, you demand a lot.
HealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
Indyfella: You're expecting people to actually do some work and to also think. Damn, you demand a lot.
And while they are thinking...
They need to think about this too!!!
Relating to my previous post here:
Globalism is an approach to politics that sees individual countries as being "states" in a global government. One approach would be to have something comparable to the United Nations govern the world. Another approach would be to have every nation become part of something comparable to the European Union.
Globalism is an approach to politics that sees individual countries as being "states" in a global government. One approach would be to have something comparable to the United Nations govern the world. Another approach would be to have every nation become part of something comparable to the European Union.
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I use to be Repulican mostly for the moral issues that evangelicals have, but I cant just vote on that anymore. There is so much more. Mccain thinks he is some WAR BADASS that will continue to police the world,,....while our own country people of middle to lower class suffer. I have lived in other Countries and I know how AWESOME it feels to have Health CARE!! and for no one to be homeless unless they chose to be. We can have the same here, and with Hilary or Obama we will have A much better country, A balanced Country, Not so bent on going to war...
I voted for Bush Both times, I look at him and think .... Was I a fool??? he is so Ignorant!!!
VOte!!! for Hilary or Obama!!