Honesty.. are you? (24)

Mar 4, 2008 3:05 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
shianne
shianneshianneValetta, Majjistral Malta8 Threads 2 Polls 45 Posts
i would like to know if you all think you are honest to people that you mmet, or does it depend on who much you like them?

and most important are you honest to yourself?
Mar 4, 2008 3:09 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
Tamarory
TamaroryTamaroryPlymouth, Devon, England UK23 Threads 2 Polls 503 Posts
ive been honest to everyone.. id like to think everyone has been honest to me too?? i think they have though, like no one really has any reason to be dishonest on this?? we are all here for the same thing, to meet people.
Mar 4, 2008 4:03 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
To be honest is the one thing that is most important in this life. Being honest .... life continues. To lie and deceive, well, the truth will eventually surface.

I have found that only in honesty can we ever bond to anybody... even in a simple friendship.

No matter who, or what you are, you are yourself, and quite unique.....and those who dont like how you are ... well, that is THEIR problem.
Mar 4, 2008 4:08 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
Totally honest,if you,re not please do not contact me.One littlelie and you,re out. I forgave too,too many in the past.thumbs up
Mar 4, 2008 5:53 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
shianne: i would like to know if you all think you are honest to people that you mmet, or does it depend on who much you like them?

and most important are you honest to yourself?


--- too much information - honest
Mar 4, 2008 7:38 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73:
Knew parts of the Discourse,but never read the whole thing.
Who would have Thunk I'd read it someday at my Ripe Old Age


Well .. I am most exceedingly pleasured that what you never Thunked you would Thunk did eventually come to pass......dancing
Mar 5, 2008 4:19 AM CST Honesty.. are you?
smoky: Well .. I am most exceedingly pleasured that what you never Thunked you would Thunk did eventually come to pass......


Good thing I am not Thunking my Bread in my Coffee,imagine the mess THAT would createconfused

Just Dunkingrolling on the floor laughing grin
Mar 5, 2008 6:21 AM CST Honesty.. are you?
natasha555
natasha555natasha555Plovdiv, Bulgaria14 Threads 649 Posts
shianne: i would like to know if you all think you are honest to people that you mmet, or does it depend on who much you like them?

and most important are you honest to yourself?

wave Hi Shianne,

We all have heard the quote: 'Honesty is the best policy!'Is it??..always..??
Sure ,it is- when anyone is honest!And sure -it is not when you meet someone else behind a mask of honesty!I don't think I have to be honest to people who play silly games and have hidden agenda,or have 2 or more profiles ,or who are sarcastic and laugh at my honesty!It doesn't mean I am dishonest to them , I try to give them less information about me and when I am sure who they are-I just cut the contact-this obviously means "to be honest to yourself"!It is the most important,honestly...
Mar 5, 2008 6:32 AM CST Honesty.. are you?
Donau
DonauDonauAttika, Attica Greece5 Threads 283 Posts
I can only agree with that!You can say it better than me Smoky but its exactly how I think!hug
smoky: To be honest is the one thing that is most important in this life. Being honest .... life continues. To lie and deceive, well, the truth will eventually surface.

I have found that only in honesty can we ever bond to anybody... even in a simple friendship.

No matter who, or what you are, you are yourself, and quite unique.....and those who dont like how you are ... well, that is THEIR problem.
Mar 5, 2008 9:02 AM CST Honesty.. are you?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Donau: I can only agree with that!You can say it better than me Smoky but its exactly how I think!


A long time ago I attended a "personal growth" course in a class of 30. We were divided up into groups of 5 complete strangers from differing regions.... no reasons given. After 3 months of working only with each other in our group - being open and honest with our feelings and opinions we found we had all bonded into a strong feeling of friendship, almost like family. Although we fraternised with the other groups they felt like complete strangers compared to us 5.

At the outcome it was explained that only by being honest with each other, not being afraid of being open, do humans actually form a tight bond. Despite scattering to different countries, fifteen years later ... we are all still in touch with each other (well 2 have since died).

As a matter of interest ... one of the 5 had their house burn down, and came to their "group" for immediate assistance (instead of to their family members).... That is the result of the trust developed from being completely honest.
Mar 5, 2008 4:12 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
shianne
shianneshianneValetta, Majjistral Malta8 Threads 2 Polls 45 Posts
hello miss natasha.
Mar 5, 2008 4:15 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
shianne
shianneshianneValetta, Majjistral Malta8 Threads 2 Polls 45 Posts
i suppose that i mean about people who are not honest for when they date, do people tell themselves little lies when they met each other to get togeter. do they lie about what they must have in a boyfiend or girlfiend just so they can be with someone for a while.
Mar 5, 2008 4:24 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
antcus
antcusantcusSt Paul's Bay, Majjistral Malta17 Threads 948 Posts
shianne: i suppose that i mean about people who are not honest for when they date, do people tell themselves little lies when they met each other to get togeter. do they lie about what they must have in a boyfiend or girlfiend just so they can be with someone for a while.


Or when their phone rings, and they tell their boyfriend it was from their workplace, or when an ex sms's them, and they say it was their sister or mother. Or when they refuse to show their boyfriend their list of telephone numbers on their mobile? Need I say more? Is this honesty...is this helping their relationship?
Mar 5, 2008 4:39 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
shianne
shianneshianneValetta, Majjistral Malta8 Threads 2 Polls 45 Posts
perhaps there is trust issues here, as if you thin a person is being dishonest enoug to as to see the tlephone mobile list perhaps they is not the person foryou
Mar 5, 2008 4:40 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
antcus: Or when their phone rings, and they tell their boyfriend it was from their workplace, or when an ex sms's them, and they say it was their sister or mother. Or when they refuse to show their boyfriend their list of telephone numbers on their mobile? Need I say more? Is this honesty...is this helping their relationship?


No, this behaviour would probably destroy a relationship.

However, I had a very jealous ex boyfriend relatively recently who amongst other things, would demand that I show him my mobile numbers and I wouldn't, not because I had anything to hide, but because he was being unreasonable and didn't trust me....or anybody for that matter as it turned out.
Mar 5, 2008 4:45 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
antcus
antcusantcusSt Paul's Bay, Majjistral Malta17 Threads 948 Posts
Jan1305: No, this behaviour would probably destroy a relationship.

However, I had a very jealous ex boyfriend relatively recently who amongst other things, would demand that I show him my mobile numbers and I wouldn't, not because I had anything to hide, but because he was being unreasonable and didn't trust me....or anybody for that matter as it turned out.


If you knew 100% that her ex boyfriends were calling her and sms' ing her, would you call this distrust in your partner, or would you have a "right" to object for the person's secrecy and dishonesty, because this is what the thread is aiming to target??
Mar 5, 2008 4:45 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
shianne
shianneshianneValetta, Majjistral Malta8 Threads 2 Polls 45 Posts
Jan1305: No, this behaviour would probably destroy a relationship.

However, I had a very jealous ex boyfriend relatively recently who amongst other things, would demand that I show him my mobile numbers and I wouldn't, not because I had anything to hide, but because he was being unreasonable and didn't trust me....or anybody for that matter as it turned out.


this i agree with you as if someone will ask to see your mobile list they do not trust do and it is not a mettar that you are not being honest it will be that they do not have trust and even if you show them your mobile list they will find something else to not trust to trust
Mar 5, 2008 4:54 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
antcus: If you knew 100% that her ex boyfriends were calling her and sms' ing her, would you call this distrust in your partner, or would you have a "right" to object for the person's secrecy and dishonesty, because this is what the thread is aiming to target??


Well I do have a problem with any invasion of privacy particularly because I had an experience with an obsessionally jealous man.

I don't know how somebody can be 100% sure, but if this is the case, it still may not be cause for concern. I still receive calls and texts from this jealous ex I mentioned previously even though I ended the relationship a long time ago, they mean nothing to me and I don't reply.

I also receive occasional texts from my ex husband which I do reply to, but there is no romance or anything which should concern somebody I may be dating.
Mar 5, 2008 5:14 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
antcus
antcusantcusSt Paul's Bay, Majjistral Malta17 Threads 948 Posts
Jan1305: Well I do have a problem with any invasion of privacy particularly because I had an experience with an obsessionally jealous man.

I don't know how somebody can be 100% sure, but if this is the case, it still may not be cause for concern. I still receive calls and texts from this jealous ex I mentioned previously even though I ended the relationship a long time ago, they mean nothing to me and I don't reply.

I also receive occasional texts from my ex husband which I do reply to, but there is no romance or anything which should concern somebody I may be dating.


That is what I call "good attitude", but it is not the same with everybody.
I think that every time a woman or man receives a phone call from somebody, or a text message, willingly or not willingly, that person is bound to think that somebody still remembers her or him. Which sets a process in the mind that asks a few questions like....he is still interested in me. Did I do right when I ended the relationship? If this relationship ends, I know where to go. But even if it does not induce these thoughts, it brings back the memory of that person with all the ups and downs of that past relationship. I don't believe that a relationship is ever over. The memory lingers on, and is easily enkindled even by a phone call or text message. Especially those moments of intense extasy, those will never die.
Mar 5, 2008 5:27 PM CST Honesty.. are you?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
antcus: That is what I call "good attitude", but it is not the same with everybody.
I think that every time a woman or man receives a phone call from somebody, or a text message, willingly or not willingly, that person is bound to think that somebody still remembers her or him. Which sets a process in the mind that asks a few questions like....he is still interested in me. Did I do right when I ended the relationship? If this relationship ends, I know where to go. But even if it does not induce these thoughts, it brings back the memory of that person with all the ups and downs of that past relationship. I don't believe that a relationship is ever over. The memory lingers on, and is easily enkindled even by a phone call or text message. Especially those moments of intense extasy, those will never die.


Antcus forgive me for asking but do you think you are a jealous man.

You see, the problem may not lie with your partner, and what she may or may not be doing, (I'm assuming you've been posting from personal experience here), but with you?

I've certainly had moments of ecstasy with my ex husband and ex boyfriends, we all have including you, but at the end of the day these relationships failed for a number of reasons. Why should they impinge on future relationships unless, as I have already said, I'm not over a particular ex and ready to move on with my life?
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