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Mar 5, 2008 3:51 PM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue

By Philip Pullella 2 hours, 54 minutes ago

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican and Muslim leaders agreed on

Wednesday to establish a permanent official dialogue to improve often

difficult relations and heal wounds still open from a controversial

papal speech in 2006.


A joint statement said the first meeting of "The Catholic-Muslim Forum"

will take place on November 4-6 in Rome with 24 religious leaders and

scholars from each side.

Pope Benedict will address the group, the statement said.

The announcement came after a two-day meeting at the Vatican with five

representatives of Muslims who had signed an unprecedented appeal to

the Pope to begin a dialogue.

"We emerged with a permanent structure that will ensure that the

Catholic-Muslim engagement and dialogue continues into the future,"

said Professor Aref Ali Nayed, director of the Royal Islamic Strategic

Studies Center in Amman, Jordan.

He told a news conference the forum would be able "to work out issues

and an exchange of opinions about important matters."

Catholic-Muslim relations nosedived in 2006 after Benedict delivered a

lecture in Regensburg, Germany, that was taken by Muslims to imply that

Islam was violent and irrational.

Muslims around the world protested and the pope sought to make amends

when he visited Turkey's Blue Mosque and prayed towards Mecca with its

Imam.

"For some Muslims the wounds of the (pope's) German lecture are not

completely healed and there are some Muslims who are boycotting the

Vatican ... and still feel offended by that quite deeply," Nayed said

in answer to a question.

PAPAL SPEECH STILL HURTS

"Just because we are part of this initiative does not mean that we are

not hurt by this, however we must not only dwell on the negative but

also dwell on the positive. There have been some recent positive moves

by the Vatican," he said.

After the fallout from the Regensburg speech, 138 Muslim scholars and

leaders wrote to the German-born pontiff and other Christian leaders

last year, saying "the very survival of the world itself" may depend on

dialogue between the two faiths.

"Muslims and Christians make up about 55 percent of the world and there

will be no peace in the world unless there is peace between these two

communities," Ibrahim Kalin of the Seta Foundation in Turkey told the

news conference.

The signatories of the Muslim appeal for dialogue, called the "Common

Word," has grown to nearly 240 since.

"This whole initiative is about healing, it is about healing the wounds

of a very pained and in many ways destroyed world. We have cruelty all

over the place, we have wars, we have famines we have massacres, we

have terrorist acts, we have torture, we have people who are

kidnapped," Nayed said.

Although Benedict repeatedly expressed regret for the reaction to his

speech in Regensburg, he stopped short of a clear apology sought by

Muslims.

The Muslim delegation said the forum would meet every two years and

alternate between Rome and a Muslim country but would establish

structures for regular contacts and links to deal with one member

called "an emergency situation."

(Editing by Sami Aboudi)


confused
uh oh
mumbling
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Mar 6, 2008 12:47 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
Skeptikos
SkeptikosSkeptikosGreenville, South Carolina USA19 Threads 745 Posts
Oh, no! Not . . . not dialogue!
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Mar 6, 2008 12:53 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Conrad73: Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue

By Philip Pullella 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
to deal with one member
called "an emergency situation."
(Editing by Sami Aboudi)


emergency situation ... confused

same term used in the american and canadian agreement to allow troops to move on each others territory.. "in an emergency situation" ... emergency in canada is when the Toronto Maple Leafs lose a hockey game, thats the height of emergency status in canada rolling on the floor laughing

so what're they thinking?confused
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Mar 6, 2008 7:10 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
Pretty Scary!uh oh
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Mar 6, 2008 7:40 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Skeptikos: Oh, no! Not . . . not dialogue!



Oh, the farmer and the cowman should be friends,
Oh, the farmer and the cowman should be friends.
One man likes to push a plough,
The other likes to chase a cow,
But that's no reason why they can't be friends.



rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 6, 2008 8:13 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Fallingman: Oh, the farmer and the cowman should be friends,
Oh, the farmer and the cowman should be friends.
One man likes to push a plough,
The other likes to chase a cow,
But that's no reason why they can't be friends.




Soo ... what are they discuss then? Cowship? ... those cows can be very dangerous all depends on how people care and milk them conversing
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Mar 6, 2008 8:48 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
Tried reading through all of the first post. When I got to the part where the muslims are still sniveling over a stupid speech in 2006, because they PERCEIVED it to be insulting, whether it actually was or not. Screw it. Sick and tired of the way they go nuts over simple words, but don't do anything about the murdering going on by their own. Again, want to control everyone BUT the radical/militant muslim terrorists.
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Mar 6, 2008 9:02 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
trublu: Tried reading through all of the first post. When I got to the part where the muslims are still sniveling over a stupid speech in 2006, because they PERCEIVED it to be insulting, whether it actually was or not. Screw it. Sick and tired of the way they go nuts over simple words, but don't do anything about the murdering going on by their own. Again, want to control everyone BUT the radical/militant muslim terrorists.


some would perceive your perceptions as sniveling and insulting. And you have gone nuts over the simple words of the OP ("sick and tired, screw it")... hmmm The fact that people want to talk is a GOOD thing ... why is the real question.

If you're saying practice what you preach then please do, because american leaders are dropping bombs and murdering as well... christianity and the catholic church have been the oppresor and murderer all too frequently. Being muslim hardly means they are the bad guys or in the very least , not the only bad guys.
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Jun 7, 2008 9:58 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
bnatrual "...And you have gone nuts over the simple words of the OP ("sick and tired, screw it")..."

Damn, you sure project your own feelings into text from another now dontcha'. Being bored with BS you call going nuts, and then go on to even try to defend any of the horrific things these radicals have done? Sorry dude, but I think you are seriously nuts.

" The fact that people want to talk is a GOOD thing ... why is the real question."
Talk yeah, the real question is, are the muslims at all interested in peace, or just another way to attempt to intimidate and control others?

"If you're saying practice what you preach then please do, because american leaders are dropping bombs and murdering as well... "
Truth be told, I sincerely wish the US had just dropped enough bombs to end this whole mess in 6 months,which would have saved a lot of lives, whether certain types agree or not.

"christianity and the catholic church have been the oppresor and murderer all too frequently. Being muslim hardly means they are the bad guys or in the very least , not the only bad guys."
Sorry, but until there are Catholics and/or Christians coming out of their "sleeper" mode to gun down innocent women in my home town, I will be seeing the muslims as the greater threat, because they ARE. Seems that at least the other two take a direct attack, as they have a bit more overall backbone as it were. Muslims, nope. Have studied the religion and found FAR too much bad that COMPLETELY outweighed the miniscule good. The other two are at least closer to 50/50.


conrad, first I laughed at the idea that 5 muslims could speak for the lot, since the sects can't even agree with each other. That was a hoot, and alone tells me that this is stupid. Nice idea, but way too unrealistic.
Then laughed that these poor babies are still so disgruntled by WORDS they found insulting, while they defend their murderous conduct.
Also just loved the not so veiled threats by the muslims, basically saying, learn how to do things the way we want or we will never stop our terrorist ways.
About the only good thing in the article was that the Pope refused to lie. Would say he was sorry for what he said, just that he regretted the way muslims reacted to it.
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Jul 19, 2008 6:09 PM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
moses
mosesmosesistanbul, Marmara Turkey3 Threads 1 Polls 136 Posts
trublu: Tried reading through all of the first post. When I got to the part where the muslims are still sniveling over a stupid speech in 2006, because they PERCEIVED it to be insulting, whether it actually was or not. Screw it. Sick and tired of the way they go nuts over simple words, but don't do anything about the murdering going on by their own. Again, want to control everyone BUT the radical/militant muslim terrorists.


I see that face many time and that face talking abaut muslims such thay has to violate her.

Hey you bombing them not they are.
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KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
doh OH Merde, it's back
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Jul 19, 2008 7:08 PM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
moses
mosesmosesistanbul, Marmara Turkey3 Threads 1 Polls 136 Posts
KHD100: OH Merde, it's back


Dont worry

I understant your proplem cause is only menopause.

Just relax
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Jul 19, 2008 9:12 PM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
moses
mosesmosesistanbul, Marmara Turkey3 Threads 1 Polls 136 Posts
turublu where are you.

Dont shame.If thay did, you must glad ,but if you arent, I am appologise in the name of them.

Keep healthly
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Jul 19, 2008 9:30 PM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
moses: Dont worry

I understant your proplem cause is only menopause.

Just relax


rolling on the floor laughing You're stupid.
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Jul 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
KHD100: OH Merde, it's back


This comment is not about you Moses... it's about the same arguments and comments starting up all over again.

I respect you love your religion and it's important to you, I just feel I am being attacked for not being the same religion/culture as you.

If someone says or acts a certain way towards me, or someone else, I will react. If all humans are supposed to come together, learn and understand each other, attacking is not the way to do it.

We all know you are very devout and love your religion. Why not tell us more about YOU and not the religion. Tell us about your hobbies, what you like to do. Are you in school, or have a job.... what music do you like?

Food? Do you prefer Turkish coffee over tea?

If you do not like us...... why come here? To spread anger and hate? Or do you like to stir up a hornets nest? (anger, people buzzing about, and stirring up negative angry feelings)

I wish you well, just please, if you want respect, you also have to give it.

Peace and health to you.


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CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
--- wonderful start/re- hopefully the dialogue continues- positively and filters through to the wholesale level and eventually the masses/factions, secret or otherwise

ciao soli
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solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
CuspofMagic: --- wonderful start/re- hopefully the dialogue continues- positively and filters through to the wholesale level and eventually the masses/factions, secret or otherwise

ciao soli



Ciao Magic! %D
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Jul 21, 2008 10:15 AM CST Vatican and Muslims to establish permanent dialogue
Nettermann
NettermannNettermannDiekirch, Luxembourg6 Threads 965 Posts
trublu: Tried reading through all of the first post. When I got to the part where the muslims are still sniveling over a stupid speech in 2006, because they PERCEIVED it to be insulting, whether it actually was or not. Screw it. Sick and tired of the way they go nuts over simple words, but don't do anything about the murdering going on by their own. Again, want to control everyone BUT the radical/militant muslim terrorists.


thumbs down
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Nettermann
NettermannNettermannDiekirch, Luxembourg6 Threads 965 Posts
trublu: Tried reading through all of the first post. When I got to the part where the muslims are still sniveling over a stupid speech in 2006, because they PERCEIVED it to be insulting, whether it actually was or not. Screw it. Sick and tired of the way they go nuts over simple words, but don't do anything about the murdering going on by their own. Again, want to control everyone BUT the radical/militant muslim terrorists.


you seem to be a radical christian true?
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trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
Nettermann: you seem to be a radical christian true?


FALSE
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