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I am quoting this from another site. It is not my own words.
The answer lies in the ingenious way that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices. After discovering that people were more reluctant to give up their holidays and festivals than their gods, they simply incorporated Pagan practices into Christian festivals. As recounted by the Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer, clever clerics copied Pagan practices and by doing so, made Christianity more palatable to pagan folk reluctant to give up their festivals for somber Christian practices.
In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare(bunny).
The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods.
Pagan fertility festivals at the time of the Spring equinox were common- it was believed that at this time, when day and night were of equal length, male and female energies were also in balance. The hare is often associated with moon goddesses; the egg and the hare together represent the god and the goddess, respectively. Moving forward fifteen hundred years, we find ourselves in Germany, where children await the arrival of Oschter Haws, a rabbit who will lay colored eggs in nests to the delight of children who discover them Easter morning. It was this German tradition that popularized the 'Easter bunny' in America, when introduced into the American cultural fabric by German settlers in Pennsylvania.
Many modern practitioners of Neo-pagan and earth-based religions have embraced these symbols apart of their religious practice, identifying with the life-affirming aspects of the spring holiday. (The Neopagan holiday of Ostara is descended from the Saxon festival.) Ironically, some Christian groups have used the presence of these symbols to denounce the celebration of the Easter holiday, and many churches have recently abandoned the Pagan moniker with more Christian oriented titles like 'Resurrection Sunday.
The answer lies in the ingenious way that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices. After discovering that people were more reluctant to give up their holidays and festivals than their gods, they simply incorporated Pagan practices into Christian festivals. As recounted by the Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer, clever clerics copied Pagan practices and by doing so, made Christianity more palatable to pagan folk reluctant to give up their festivals for somber Christian practices.
In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare(bunny).
The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods.
Pagan fertility festivals at the time of the Spring equinox were common- it was believed that at this time, when day and night were of equal length, male and female energies were also in balance. The hare is often associated with moon goddesses; the egg and the hare together represent the god and the goddess, respectively. Moving forward fifteen hundred years, we find ourselves in Germany, where children await the arrival of Oschter Haws, a rabbit who will lay colored eggs in nests to the delight of children who discover them Easter morning. It was this German tradition that popularized the 'Easter bunny' in America, when introduced into the American cultural fabric by German settlers in Pennsylvania.
Many modern practitioners of Neo-pagan and earth-based religions have embraced these symbols apart of their religious practice, identifying with the life-affirming aspects of the spring holiday. (The Neopagan holiday of Ostara is descended from the Saxon festival.) Ironically, some Christian groups have used the presence of these symbols to denounce the celebration of the Easter holiday, and many churches have recently abandoned the Pagan moniker with more Christian oriented titles like 'Resurrection Sunday.
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aaaaaak! hi sweetie
i wont answer cuz i already know what you think
but hiiiii
i hope youre bein a good girl!
i wont answer cuz i already know what you think
but hiiiii
i hope youre bein a good girl!
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mindfful: aaaaaak! hi sweetie
i wont answer cuz i already know what you think
but hiiiii
i hope youre bein a good girl!
i wont answer cuz i already know what you think
but hiiiii
i hope youre bein a good girl!
of course im being a good girl ....though my bf might argue that one lol...
how are you??
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well then he is prolly a happy man?
im glad to see you
i sent a flower or note or something awhile back
but since youve been *ahem* 'busy'
you are forgiven.
enjoy youre bounty of colorful eggs
im glad to see you
i sent a flower or note or something awhile back
but since youve been *ahem* 'busy'
you are forgiven.
enjoy youre bounty of colorful eggs
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Its been years since I researched this and was suprised to see this post. You won't make christians happy with this one. Nore the pagan aspects of christmas exc.
I personaly enjoy this sort of topic. But normaly get flamed when I bring up such discussions.
later!
I personaly enjoy this sort of topic. But normaly get flamed when I bring up such discussions.
later!
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bamabulldog08: Its been years since I researched this and was suprised to see this post. You won't make christians happy with this one. Nore the pagan aspects of christmas exc.
I personaly enjoy this sort of topic. But normaly get flamed when I bring up such discussions.
later!
I personaly enjoy this sort of topic. But normaly get flamed when I bring up such discussions.
later!
i know what your talking about. i think i brought this up at christmas , and i know i did around holloween. and i know i opended up another can of worms.
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Did you know that Easter 1916 was the uprising of Ireland to break away from great Britain who were ruling over that country...The irish rebelled and fought to maintain their independence and remain a free country ....many sacrificed their own lives during that rebellion to ensure the freedom of ireland as a whole...
Gives a whole new meaning to Easter....
and this was during the 19th century....
there is much information on the web for anyone who is interested in learning about their Irish heritage, and the stories passed downby their ancestors........
::sad_flower:
Gives a whole new meaning to Easter....
and this was during the 19th century....
there is much information on the web for anyone who is interested in learning about their Irish heritage, and the stories passed downby their ancestors........
::sad_flower:
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crazedangel89:
The answer lies in the ingenious way that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices. After discovering that people were more reluctant to give up their holidays and festivals than their gods, they simply incorporated Pagan practices into Christian festivals. .
The answer lies in the ingenious way that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices. After discovering that people were more reluctant to give up their holidays and festivals than their gods, they simply incorporated Pagan practices into Christian festivals. .
You are of course referring to the Roman Catholic Church and not Christianity per sé?
The two belief systems are opposites.
Roman Catholic religion incorporated the pagan festivals and symbols into their church. True Christianity has nothing whatever to do with the Roman Catholic church. Although the RC`s also incorporated Christianity - and this is what confused people. RC religion is a hodge podge of everything. Christianity is for believers in the Christ - with no symbols, idols, statues, "fathers", confessions, holy icons, rituals, etc.
The Cross of the RC`s reflects a dead Christ hanging on it.
The Cross of Christianity is empty - to symbolise the Risen Christ.
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smoky: You are of course referring to the Roman Catholic Church and not Christianity per sé?
The two belief systems are opposites.
Roman Catholic religion incorporated the pagan festivals and symbols into their church. True Christianity has nothing whatever to do with the Roman Catholic church. Although the RC`s also incorporated Christianity - and this is what confused people. RC religion is a hodge podge of everything. Christianity is for believers in the Christ - with no symbols, idols, statues, "fathers", confessions, holy icons, rituals, etc.
The Cross of the RC`s reflects a dead Christ hanging on it.
The Cross of Christianity is empty - to symbolise the Risen Christ.
The two belief systems are opposites.
Roman Catholic religion incorporated the pagan festivals and symbols into their church. True Christianity has nothing whatever to do with the Roman Catholic church. Although the RC`s also incorporated Christianity - and this is what confused people. RC religion is a hodge podge of everything. Christianity is for believers in the Christ - with no symbols, idols, statues, "fathers", confessions, holy icons, rituals, etc.
The Cross of the RC`s reflects a dead Christ hanging on it.
The Cross of Christianity is empty - to symbolise the Risen Christ.
Christianity is loaded with pagan rituals and practices. The empty cross is as you stated a symbol of christ risen. its also a reminder of the sacrifice of christ for mans sins.
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Too much emphasis is being put on his death, here. His death isn't the miracle, it's his defeat over death and the fact that he rose again. Many false messiahs have been killed...including David Koresh, but what sets Christ aside is the claim of his resurrection! Just wanted to set the record straight!! I no longer believe in these things, but, Easter is about the resurrection, not the death
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shipoker55: Too much emphasis is being put on his death, here. His death isn't the miracle, it's his defeat over death and the fact that he rose again. Many false messiahs have been killed...including David Koresh, but what sets Christ aside is the claim of his resurrection! Just wanted to set the record straight!! I no longer believe in these things, but, Easter is about the resurrection, not the death
We were discussing the symbolism and pagan side of things. I don't see were our conversation was placeing emphisis on his death. But once again I thank you for straitening us out. scary thing, I don't believe in such things either. We agree on that point, who knew.
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From the earliest times, the egg was a symbol of rebirth in most cultures. Eggs were often wrapped in gold leaf or if you were a peasant, colored brightly by boiling them with the leaves or petals of certain flowers.
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gangel: From the earliest times, the egg was a symbol of rebirth in most cultures. Eggs were often wrapped in gold leaf or if you were a peasant, colored brightly by boiling them with the leaves or petals of certain flowers.
yeppers
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jodigirlsfree: Did you know that Easter 1916 was the uprising of Ireland to break away from great Britain who were ruling over that country...The irish rebelled and fought to maintain their independence and remain a free country ....many sacrificed their own lives during that rebellion to ensure the freedom of ireland as a whole...
Gives a whole new meaning to Easter....
and this was during the 19th century.... there is much information on the web for anyone who is interested in learning about their Irish heritage, and the stories passed downby their ancestors........ :
Gives a whole new meaning to Easter....
and this was during the 19th century.... there is much information on the web for anyone who is interested in learning about their Irish heritage, and the stories passed downby their ancestors........ :
The 1916 easter rising was a complete failure and ost people hadn't a clue what was happening.....
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shipoker55: Too much emphasis is being put on his death, here. His death isn't the miracle, it's his defeat over death and the fact that he rose again. Many false messiahs have been killed...including David Koresh, but what sets Christ aside is the claim of his resurrection! Just wanted to set the record straight!! I no longer believe in these things, but, Easter is about the resurrection, not the death
Think about this....... How much God must enjoy(or get frustrated at ) our stupidity and our quest for knowledge?
With all the Powers at his Command ... he chose to have as first witnesses to the empty tomb and resurection of Christ........ only 2 women? Women in those days were not classed as witnesses, their word meant nothing! No-one was going to believe them!
Why did He not choose some influential Male members of society? .... Could it be that, as the Bible likes to state ..... "In weakness you are made strong"; "Book learned knowledgable people will be confused"; "To have the faith the size of a mustard seed is all you need"; and other such sayings?
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smoky: Think about this....... How much God must enjoy(or get frustrated at ) our stupidity and our quest for knowledge?
With all the Powers at his Command ... he chose to have as first witnesses to the empty tomb and resurection of Christ........ only 2 women? Women in those days were not classed as witnesses, their word meant nothing! No-one was going to believe them!
Why did He not choose some influential Male members of society? .... Could it be that, as the Bible likes to state ..... "In weakness you are made strong"; "Book learned knowledgable people will be confused"; "To have the faith the size of a mustard seed is all you need"; and other such sayings?
With all the Powers at his Command ... he chose to have as first witnesses to the empty tomb and resurection of Christ........ only 2 women? Women in those days were not classed as witnesses, their word meant nothing! No-one was going to believe them!
Why did He not choose some influential Male members of society? .... Could it be that, as the Bible likes to state ..... "In weakness you are made strong"; "Book learned knowledgable people will be confused"; "To have the faith the size of a mustard seed is all you need"; and other such sayings?
How sad Yeshua must be when people honored pagan based 'holidays' in His name when He commanded HIS Holy Days to celebrate Him.
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crazedangel89: some questions about easter ...
how did easter get its name?
what does it have to do with a bunny rabbit?
what do eggs have to do with it?
...i know the answers but i wanna see who else knows too..
i'll be back later to check it out ..
how did easter get its name?
what does it have to do with a bunny rabbit?
what do eggs have to do with it?
...i know the answers but i wanna see who else knows too..
i'll be back later to check it out ..
"Easter" is like every other "christian" holiday, an invented fiction intended to supplant a previously existing non-"christian" holiday.
"All Hallows Eve" replaced Samhain, "christmas" replaced hannukah and solstice celebrations (as well as the worship of Mithras), "valentine's day" is a fiction that replaced the Lupercalian festival, and "easter" replaced worship of Oestre, s fertility/nature worship religion. It's far easier to replace and destroy that it is to compete when what you're selling is no better than the other guy.
It's really no different than what the Soviet Union used to do with "nonpersons", rewriting history and forbidding people from talking about things that have been banned.
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smoky: You are of course referring to the Roman Catholic Church and not Christianity per sé?
The two belief systems are opposites.
Roman Catholic religion incorporated the pagan festivals and symbols into their church. True Christianity has nothing whatever to do with the Roman Catholic church. Although the RC`s also incorporated Christianity - and this is what confused people. RC religion is a hodge podge of everything. Christianity is for believers in the Christ - with no symbols, idols, statues, "fathers", confessions, holy icons, rituals, etc.
The Cross of the RC`s reflects a dead Christ hanging on it.
The Cross of Christianity is empty - to symbolise the Risen Christ.
The two belief systems are opposites.
Roman Catholic religion incorporated the pagan festivals and symbols into their church. True Christianity has nothing whatever to do with the Roman Catholic church. Although the RC`s also incorporated Christianity - and this is what confused people. RC religion is a hodge podge of everything. Christianity is for believers in the Christ - with no symbols, idols, statues, "fathers", confessions, holy icons, rituals, etc.
The Cross of the RC`s reflects a dead Christ hanging on it.
The Cross of Christianity is empty - to symbolise the Risen Christ.
Actually YOUR religion is derived FROM Catholicism. Catholics wrote the bible you are using. Perhaps your particular sect changed a few words or phrases in your bible, but overall your bible is a Catholic creation. And all of your religious Holidays were not only taken straight from Catholicism, but Catholicism stole everything about YOUR religion from Jews, Pagans and earlier religions.
You belong to what is referred to as an Abrahamic religion, which includes Catholicism, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Jewish and Muslim. You all worship the very same god.
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how did easter get its name?
what does it have to do with a bunny rabbit?
what do eggs have to do with it?
...i know the answers but i wanna see who else knows too..
i'll be back later to check it out ..