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Apr 2, 2008 11:57 AM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Cops: 3rd-graders plotted teacher attack

RUSS BYNUM, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 51 minutes ago

WAYCROSS, Ga. - A group of children ages 8 to 10 were apparently mad at their teacher because she had scolded
one of them for standing on a chair, authorities say.

That led the third-graders, as many as nine boys and girls,
to plot an attack on the teacher at Center Elementary School
in south Georgia.

Police Chief Tony Tanner said the students apparently planned to knock the teacher unconscious with a glass paperweight,
bind her with handcuffs and duct tape and then stab her
with a broken steak knife.

The scheme involved a division of roles, Tanner said.
One child's job was to cover windows so no one could see from
outside, and another was supposed to clean up after the attack.

"We're not sure at this point in the investigation how many of the students actually knew the intent was to hurt the teacher,"
Tanner said.

School officials had alerted police Friday after a pupil tipped off
a teacher that a girl had taken a weapon to school.

Tanner said the teacher told detectives the children
weren't known previously as troublemakers.

"You can't dismiss it," Tanner said. "But because they are kids, they may have thought this was like a cartoon —
we do whatever and then she stands up and she's OK.
That's a hard call."

The purported target teaches third-grade students with learning disabilities, including attention deficit disorder, delayed development and hyperactivity, friends and parents said.

Two of the students were arrested on juvenile charges Tuesday and a third arrest was expected. District Attorney Rick Currie said other students told investigators they didn't take the plot seriously or insisted they had decided not to participate.

"Some of the kids said, `We thought they were just kidding,'" Currie said. "Another child was supposed to bring a toy pistol, and he told a detective he didn't bring it because he thought
he would get in trouble."

Currie said the children are too young to be charged as adults, and probably too young to be sentenced to a youth detention center.

"We did not hear anybody say they intended to kill her, but could they have accidentally killed her? Absolutely," Tanner said. "We feel like if they weren't interrupted, there would have been an attempt. Would they have been successful? We don't know."

Currie said he decided to seek juvenile charges against two girls, ages 9 and 10, who brought the knife and paperweight and an 8-year-old boy who brought tape. He said they face charges of conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, and both girls are being charged with taking weapons to school.

Nine children have been given discipline up to and including long-term suspension, said Theresa Martin, spokeswoman for the Ware County school system. She would not be more specific but said none of the children had been back to school since the case came to light.

School system policy says any student who brings "anything reasonably considered to be a weapon" is to be expelled for at least the remainder of the school year.
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Apr 2, 2008 12:02 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Bizarre as it is, Im not surprised sadly - what a sad reflection of society...........
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Apr 2, 2008 12:04 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
DadofDucks
DadofDucksDadofDucksWentzville, Missouri USA9 Threads 2,123 Posts
Its a scary world.....kiss teddybear
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Apr 2, 2008 12:06 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
blues blues What will tommorow bring .... sigh
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Apr 2, 2008 12:06 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
PILIPALA
PILIPALAPILIPALACardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK200 Threads 4,804 Posts
Scary and sad
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Apr 2, 2008 12:08 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
My god I can't believe the amount of planning that went into this for such young kids....dunno uh oh confused doh
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Apr 2, 2008 12:10 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
DadofDucks
DadofDucksDadofDucksWentzville, Missouri USA9 Threads 2,123 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: My god I can't believe the amount of planning that went into this for such young kids....


My daughters in 4th grade she amazes me with her writting abilities and the way her mind works....I know I was never that smart.....teddybear teddybear
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Apr 2, 2008 12:13 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
DadofDucks: My daughters in 4th grade she amazes me with her writting abilities and the way her mind works....I know I was never that smart.....


Oh I know kids are smart at that age...I just didn't think it would be for planning cirmes....uh oh uh oh That's the part that has me dumbfounded....It doesn't sound like a kids plan it sounds like an adult plan with the among of detail that went into to it...right down to covering the windows....confused wave
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Apr 2, 2008 12:16 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
DadofDucks
DadofDucksDadofDucksWentzville, Missouri USA9 Threads 2,123 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Oh I know kids are smart at that age...I just didn't think it would be for planning cirmes.... That's the part that has me dumbfounded....It doesn't sound like a kids plan it sounds like an adult plan with the among of detail that went into to it...right down to covering the windows....


I know it can be amazing. Ive listened in when my kids are playing in thier room with each other and/or friends and sometimes they get ito staggering details creating forts. talking about defenses...thier amazing little minds.....teddybear
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Apr 2, 2008 12:20 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
Thats Shocking! shock




Helloo MF wave teddybear
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Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
My first question would be... What can be done with the kids???
I think family services should be doing an investigation of the living environment of each kid..
but how do we get this under control?
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Apr 2, 2008 7:45 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Many here act surprised and wonder how can this be?

Many years ago, in 1970, I was a high school student. Our English teacher gave us an assignment with several different subjects, of which we were to choose one and write an article.

I chose "Violence on TV".

I wrote of televisions being babysitters for children. And the long-term effect all of the hours spent in front of the television watching violent programs would have on our youth and kids.

In conclusion, I stated that I believed that it would result in violent behavior exhibited by those who watched it. The younger mind is not developed enough to discern reality from "it's only a movie". They are programmed to believe, by the tv, that if you have a problem with another person, you harm or kill them. This is the way they settle it on the screen.

I am not a bit surprised by this behavior. They learned it from the television and movies. Also, the games they play on x-box.


And yes, it's tragic.

I raised my daughter without a tv for 12 years until a friend felt sorry for us and gave us his old one when he bought a new one. LOL, he just didnt understand that we did not want to be programed by the tv.

Myself, I still do not watch it. I don't watch violent movies. I love a good comedy now and then. I don't like to see people get hurt.
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Jun 2, 2008 3:03 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
plasticsoldiers
plasticsoldiersplasticsoldiersBroken Arrow, Oklahoma USA2 Threads 20 Posts
this put tears in my eyes. i can't believe what's happened to the world. a bunch of kids who should be watching disney movies and talking about the newest hannah montana episode or their new baseball glove are out plotting to physically harm their teachers. that's like if my eight year old brother took a weapon to school, i couldn't imagine a child that young so angry they would take it out on another human being in such a terrifying way...

wow... sigh
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Jun 2, 2008 3:26 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
DaisyChick
DaisyChickDaisyChickPortland, Oregon USA27 Threads 1,348 Posts
Thats horrible. I couldn't even imagine my son doing such a thing. But then again I'm sure none of us could.
blues
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Jun 2, 2008 3:38 PM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
spiceygamble
spiceygamblespiceygambleNola, Louisiana USA36 Threads 3 Polls 4,493 Posts
I lived in Georgia for 12yrs.
...to put it simply...

I'm not surprised.
You would have to have been there to really "get it".
The innocence of youth is a lost thing, that's the best way I know to explain it.

crying
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Jun 3, 2008 8:36 AM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
Any updates on this story?
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Jun 3, 2008 8:44 AM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
you can not blame T. V. for this!! A million kids watch t,v, and only a few act out. It's more about parents having theur hands tied in diciplining their children

If the T.V. was responsible...there would be mass violence in the streets, not just a few. Something is lacking in these children's home and/or spiritual life.
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Jun 3, 2008 8:50 AM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
kurzita
kurzitakurzitaXaghra, Gozo Malta9 Threads 1,019 Posts
shipoker55: you can not blame T. V. for this!! A million kids watch t,v, and only a few act out. It's more about parents having theur hands tied in diciplining their children

If the T.V. was responsible...there would be mass violence in the streets, not just a few. Something is lacking in these children's home and/or spiritual life.


A bit of both.

Young minds are like spongies.....they absorb stimulii from around them.

Nodoubt it is lack of parental attention that allows other influences to have a bigger say on children.....and unfortunately yes it's true, TV is the main culprit as far as child phsycology is concerned.

Too much, too soon, too often......
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Jun 3, 2008 8:57 AM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
Jonner
JonnerJonnerSligo, Ireland4 Threads 1 Polls 52 Posts
Im stunned, What is happening to society sigh
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Jun 3, 2008 11:08 AM CST Saddest & scariest in a long time
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
In response to: The purported target teaches third-grade students with learning disabilities, including attention deficit disorder, delayed development and hyperactivity, friends and parents said.


I agree with what everyone is saying about how sad and shocking this story is and what the world seems to have come to..

However, just a point, this is a class of special needs kids with problems...learning problems, probably emotional problems...this is not a class full of average kids...

also, the type of teacher who should be working with this type of kids is one who should be trained for dealing with them and with the natural ability and talent to work with them and gain their trust and respect...had she/he had a good working relationship with them, such an incident would never had occurred...
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