Bitter women / altering advice? ( Archived) (56)

Jun 5, 2008 11:08 PM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
slim1977
slim1977slim1977my heart will always be in, Tennessee USA16 Threads 943 Posts
I was cheated on. I dont ever think there is a reason to cheat. in my case I decided to stay and try to make it work..... 3 years later here I am at CS so I guess we know how that turned out. as for fault it is always the fault of the person that cheats..... they made the decison to step over the line. even as bad as my relationship was I never did. just not right in my opinion.
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Jun 5, 2008 11:12 PM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
I went out with a woman a while back, now I have arthritis in my right hand..sigh Revenge, I am sure of it..frustrated

devil
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Jun 6, 2008 3:37 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: There is never any good reason to cheat...if you aren't happy and have the urge to cheat...fine...end the relationship first and go do your thing....Cheating is selfish and cowardly and a nice way of destroying someone elses life so you can have something on the side because heaven forbid if you end up alone!!!!!!!!

It's all about the cheater...never about the cheated...bottom line....You will never hear me say that cheating is ok...because it's not!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry.
Your comment in the karma thread,
where the opening OP was partially about a gal cheating and getting played in return.
hugz: ..Nothing you did was wrong...wanting to be loved is never wrong...BUT what these 2 men did was wrong so please don't let them further victimize you
confused

But others have done the same.. one set of rules for one perso and a different set for someone else.

Remember how badly Mary got blasted for sim...Meaning her living situation?!
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Jun 6, 2008 3:45 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
dcj22: WTF? Who said it's okay for anyone to cheat and why is this just directed at women like it's all out fault? I don't get it, Ras.


It is not just directed at women..till it gets down to the last 4 lines.. all else is in general.. pertaining to both men and women...

But it is titled "bitter Women" because of so many different women over time bashing men for cheating. then turning around later and telling another woman that is was ok... it was the mans fault.
it don't happen constantly,, but I have been here reading for over a year and have seen it several times.
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Jun 6, 2008 3:47 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
sxc666: I didnt know you were having surgery Ras. But glad it went well and hope you feel better soon.


was slightly mentioned in the OP.
no real big deal, Just got the plate taken out of the heel.
But the Meds are fantastic!!!cartwheel
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Jun 6, 2008 3:50 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
HJFinAZ: I have tasted a few and none tasted bitter to me...
rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 6, 2008 4:00 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
morningmist
morningmistmorningmistportland, Oregon USA5 Posts
slim1977: I was cheated on. I dont ever think there is a reason to cheat. in my case I decided to stay and try to make it work..... 3 years later here I am at CS so I guess we know how that turned out. as for fault it is always the fault of the person that cheats..... they made the decison to step over the line. even as bad as my relationship was I never did. just not right in my opinion.



I was cheated on also. Sadly enough I stayed around and tried to make it work and was cheated on again. There is no reason in blaming anyone. I was hurt and still stayed so who's fault is it that he did it a second time. If you are not happy were you are you leave before you have to decide to cheat or not. In the mean time "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." At least that is how I remember the saying. Blame is just a way not to move on. I will not let him ruin my day. comfort cheers
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Jun 6, 2008 5:27 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
morningmist: I was cheated on also. Sadly enough I stayed around and tried to make it work and was cheated on again. There is no reason in blaming anyone. I was hurt and still stayed so who's fault is it that he did it a second time. If you are not happy were you are you leave before you have to decide to cheat or not. In the mean time "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." At least that is how I remember the saying. Blame is just a way not to move on. I will not let him ruin my day.


That is exactly what I say all of the time.
A mistake it like taking the trash out on the wrong, or- running into another car while backing up.

But cheating is NOT a mistake..... it is a decision.

Know how badly I would hurt if my partner cheated.... regardless why.

So, I will NOT be the cause of anyone else hurting like that.
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Jun 6, 2008 5:29 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
rasgumby: That is exactly what I say all of the time.
A mistake it like taking the trash out on the wrong day, or- running into another car while backing up.

But cheating is NOT a mistake..... it is a decision.

Know how badly I would hurt if my partner cheated.... regardless why.

So, I will NOT be the cause of anyone else hurting like that.


oops
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Jun 6, 2008 5:45 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
j_goose71
j_goose71j_goose71Over there, USA43 Threads 4 Polls 849 Posts
rasgumby: my view also...
If they cheat.. man or woman.. you have just made the decision yourself that it is over.

There is NO reason... just excuses.


What's that quote?

"Excuses are like a**hole, everybody's got one."


{and they all stink}
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Jun 6, 2008 5:47 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
rasgumby: my view also...
If they cheat.. man or woman.. you have just made the decision yourself that it is over.

There is NO reason... just excuses.
thumbs up applause
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Jun 6, 2008 5:57 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
DragonLee
DragonLeeDragonLeepleasantville, New Jersey USA32 Threads 399 Posts
tabyjean: I think cheating is wrong on both ends whether its the man or woman cheating...There are lots of excuses people make for cheating...If you cheat on someone it's because your having relationship problems & must not be happy so why not just end the relationship? That doesn't mean you don't love them but why put yourself & the other person through so much more heart ache than needed?
Well said why put that other person through so much more heart ache especailly when there are small kids involed, in my case i later one of her gay brother whom i turn down his advances told his sister he seen me with another girl so she thought she was getting back at me.
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Jun 6, 2008 6:00 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
drinking why bother with a relationship if you are going to cheat? There's the door, if you are that miserable, use it. I never figured out why people would stay with each other, and cheat. Makes no sense. Man or Woman....

Hope your surgery went well
bouquet
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Jun 6, 2008 6:02 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
prncss4someone: why bother with a relationship if you are going to cheat? There's the door, if you are that miserable, use it. I never figured out why people would stay with each other, and cheat. Makes no sense. Man or Woman....

Hope your surgery went well


Thanks, went pretty well, what planet am I ondunno confused
on oxy...
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Jun 6, 2008 6:09 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
rasgumby: Thanks, went pretty well, what planet am I on
on oxy...




hmmm whatcha mean Puppy? Didn't I make sense? bouquet
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Jun 6, 2008 6:11 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
prncss4someone: whatcha mean Puppy? Didn't I make sense?


Pain meds... lalalalalalalarolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 6, 2008 6:11 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
I have never cheated but I have been cheated on....I kind of think crazy glue does justice. grin

But really, I think it's over when one cheats on me.

And I have received emails from married men asking if I would date them. That is a big turn off to me. thumbs down I have been lucky that I have never been misled by a married man.
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Jun 6, 2008 6:22 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
I remember when I was very young, someone ask if it would bother her if grandpa looked at other women? Just (look)

I will never forget her answer.

"I don't care where he get his appetite, as long as he comes home to eat."

looking is one thing.. acting on it is another.yay
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Jun 6, 2008 6:23 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
DangerouslySweet
DangerouslySweetDangerouslySweetNorthwestern, Arizona USA12 Threads 764 Posts
rasgumby: Have you ever been cheated on or cheated yourself?

If someone has been cheated on I can obviously understand why you would be bitter!
how do you feel about someone that cheats? is it really wrong to cheat?
what advice would you give to a cheater or to someone being cheated on?

Why or when do you feel that it is ok to cheat ?
Is it really a good enough reason to cheat just to say " I was / am in a bad relationship"?

I have heard so many on here rant about how wrong it is to cheat,, many say they were cheated on and the other person that cheated on them is so useless, piece of crap, bum, and so much worse.

crawling all over one person for cheating... then turn around days later and tell someone else that they did no wrong in cheating.

As most of you know me.. I see things in black and white, right and wrong.

so I am confused, why do you change the message / advice for each person?

I just really don't get the double standards.
It is ok for A, B & C to cheat yet- it is not ok for D,E & f to cheat...

or no matter what.. it is dead wrong for a man to cheat,
but it is fine for a woman to cheat as long as she can come up with a good reason???????

And either way....... it is the mans fault..
if he cheats he is scum... if she cheats it is ok because he didn't treat her right???

How is this at all the right way of looking at it?

( I am going in for surgery on my foot again today, so I may be gone for a couple of days? hope to have some replies when I do come back) ( but may be back on very late today- unsure)



All of my life I have said......"If you are so unhappy in a relatinship that you wanna cheat.....end it first. No reason to rub salt in the wounds of someone you loved not so long ago." I was cheated on a few times when I was much younger, and like so many of you have said, I ended it right then and there! There were no excuses that could justify what he had done. Then, about 6 years ago, I had been in a serious relationship for nearly 4 years with a truly good man. He was everything I could have ever asked for....kind, caring, considerate, loving, giving......probably the most honest man I have ever kniwn. Amd guess what? I CHEATED ON HIM! Yep.....after 4 years together.....and he had done NOTHING wrong to deserve it....I was the one to break my own Cardinal Rule. I have no excuse for it.....there is no justification.....and yes.....he did leave me for it. And I deserved it. Probably in the top 3 of biggest mistakes of my life. Do I still carry the guilt? Of course. Will I ever do it again? HELL NO! Do I still regret it? Yes.....and I am sure I always will. So I guess that makes me trash and the scum of the earth.
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Jun 6, 2008 6:52 AM CST Bitter women / altering advice?
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
DangerouslySweet: All of my life I have said......"If you are so unhappy in a relatinship that you wanna cheat.....end it first. No reason to rub salt in the wounds of someone you loved not so long ago." I was cheated on a few times when I was much younger, and like so many of you have said, I ended it right then and there! There were no excuses that could justify what he had done. Then, about 6 years ago, I had been in a serious relationship for nearly 4 years with a truly good man. He was everything I could have ever asked for....kind, caring, considerate, loving, giving......probably the most honest man I have ever kniwn. Amd guess what? I CHEATED ON HIM! Yep.....after 4 years together.....and he had done NOTHING wrong to deserve it....I was the one to break my own Cardinal Rule. I have no excuse for it.....there is no justification.....and yes.....he did leave me for it. And I deserved it. Probably in the top 3 of biggest mistakes of my life. Do I still carry the guilt? Of course. Will I ever do it again? HELL NO! Do I still regret it? Yes.....and I am sure I always will. So I guess that makes me trash and the scum of the earth.


No Sweetie you are not trash and the scum of the earth. You are a beautiful person who made a mistake and you have surely learned a lot from it and that has made you a better person for when you love again. And your honesty is appreciated. hug teddybear
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