When will I learn ? ( Archived) (21)

Jun 16, 2008 10:39 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
Just over 3 years ago I got involved with a very dysfunctional woman. I put an end to the relationship, but it was painful. Over the past 15 weeks I have had encounters with yet another dysfunctional woman, and each time she displays her dysfunctions I vow to myself that "that's the last time".

Last night she called me in a very sober and lucid state of mind....I invited her over for dinner and a movie. She decided to go home after the movie ended, but not after borrowing a bottle of wine from me. An hour later she called to thank me for the dinner, the conversation continued as she finished the bottle and whatever else she was taking......bottom line, she slurred a garbled rhetorical question, answered it herself, then hung up on me. She likely doesn't even remember the incident.

I feel so ridiculous, and naive, given my life experience
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Jun 16, 2008 10:49 PM CST When will I learn ?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
No clue as to when you will learn, I did not learn until I looked into the mirror and admitted I play a role in every aspect of my life. I could no longer blame the booze or others..dunno
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Jun 16, 2008 10:53 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
HJFinAZ: No clue as to when you will learn, I did not learn until I looked into the mirror and admitted I play a role in every aspect of my life. I could no longer blame the booze or others..


Wise words indeed. You are so right.
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Jun 16, 2008 10:53 PM CST When will I learn ?
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
You cannot be responsible for the decisions made by others. You have nothing to feel ridiculous about. I know you have a kind soul Leo, and what happened bothered you, but it isn't your doing.handshake
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Jun 16, 2008 10:54 PM CST When will I learn ?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
gentlepaws: Wise words indeed. You are so right.


Not sure about the wise words part, I only know it as "my" truth...wink
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Jun 16, 2008 10:56 PM CST When will I learn ?
DaisyChick
DaisyChickDaisyChickPortland, Oregon USA27 Threads 1,348 Posts
I don't know if I can word this correctly... An ex will always have a certain hold on us. When you are in the relationship you feel it, the connection, the "hold"... Just because you break up doesn't mean that is going to go away. You must distance yourself from her and not have anymore contact because as soon as you get around her again all those feelings resurface.

Try to be strong and remember she is an ex for a reason, no sense in trudging that back up. It's a painful process. In our minds we always want to hope that people change but in reality they hardly ever do.

hug
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Jun 16, 2008 10:57 PM CST When will I learn ?
GRshygirl
GRshygirlGRshygirlGrand Rapids, Michigan USA6 Threads 135 Posts
Sorry, you're just too nice of a guy. Maybe you think you can help these women?dunno
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Jun 16, 2008 11:07 PM CST When will I learn ?
twinkles1994
twinkles1994twinkles1994Vancouver, Washington USA84 Threads 2,258 Posts
gentlepaws: Just over 3 years ago I got involved with a very dysfunctional woman. I put an end to the relationship, but it was painful. Over the past 15 weeks I have had encounters with yet another dysfunctional woman, and each time she displays her dysfunctions I vow to myself that "that's the last time".

Last night she called me in a very sober and lucid state of mind....I invited her over for dinner and a movie. She decided to go home after the movie ended, but not after borrowing a bottle of wine from me. An hour later she called to thank me for the dinner, the conversation continued as she finished the bottle and whatever else she was taking......bottom line, she slurred a garbled rhetorical question, answered it herself, then hung up on me. She likely doesn't even remember the incident.

I feel so ridiculous, and naive, given my life experience


Don't feel ridiculous Leo, or naive. You are a wonderful man with a good heart and it seems to me you want to see the good in her and that's why you give her another chance. Don't beat yourself up for being the wonderful man that you are.hug wine

If you are set on not seeing this woman and falling into the same routine, then tell her it would be best she not call.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:07 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
DaisyChick: I don't know if I can word this correctly... An ex will always have a certain hold on us. When you are in the relationship you feel it, the connection, the "hold"... Just because you break up doesn't mean that is going to go away. You must distance yourself from her and not have anymore contact because as soon as you get around her again all those feelings resurface.

Try to be strong and remember she is an ex for a reason, no sense in trudging that back up. It's a painful process. In our minds we always want to hope that people change but in reality they hardly ever do.


She's not an ex., just met her recently. Re-read my thread.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:08 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
GRshygirl: Sorry, you're just too nice of a guy. Maybe you think you can help these women?


Yes, that part of it.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:10 PM CST When will I learn ?
DaisyChick
DaisyChickDaisyChickPortland, Oregon USA27 Threads 1,348 Posts
gentlepaws: Just over 3 years ago I got involved with a very dysfunctional woman. I put an end to the relationship, but it was painful. Over the past 15 weeks I have had encounters with yet another dysfunctional woman, and each time she displays her dysfunctions I vow to myself that "that's the last time".

Last night she called me in a very sober and lucid state of mind....I invited her over for dinner and a movie. She decided to go home after the movie ended, but not after borrowing a bottle of wine from me. An hour later she called to thank me for the dinner, the conversation continued as she finished the bottle and whatever else she was taking......bottom line, she slurred a garbled rhetorical question, answered it herself, then hung up on me. She likely doesn't even remember the incident.

I feel so ridiculous, and naive, given my life experience


gosh, so sorry, missed that... Well ignore my post then.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:10 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
twinkles1994: Don't feel ridiculous Leo, or naive. You are a wonderful man with a good heart and it seems to me you want to see the good in her and that's why you give her another chance. Don't beat yourself up for being the wonderful man that you are.

If you are set on not seeing this woman and falling into the same routine, then tell her it would be best she not call.


Thanks. Just bought a Caller ID unit today so I can screen my calls. The down side, she lives in the suite above me.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:12 PM CST When will I learn ?
twinkles1994
twinkles1994twinkles1994Vancouver, Washington USA84 Threads 2,258 Posts
gentlepaws: Thanks. Just bought a Caller ID unit today so I can screen my calls. The down side, she lives in the suite above me.


Well it doesn't help she lives so close to you. The Caller ID will let you know if she calls, then you can decide if you want to pick up or not! Best of Luck Leo!wine hug
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Jun 16, 2008 11:12 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
DaisyChick: gosh, so sorry, missed that... Well ignore my post then.


I thank you for your concern anyway. Leo
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Jun 16, 2008 11:14 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
GRshygirl: Sorry, you're just too nice of a guy. Maybe you think you can help these women?


I was a social worker for many years and I still labour under the illusion that people can be changed.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:16 PM CST When will I learn ?
alabamabebe
alabamabebealabamabebeBanks of the Warrior River, Alabama USA66 Threads 3 Polls 4,404 Posts
gentlepaws: I was a social worker for many years and I still labour under the illusion that people can be changed.
Only if they want to.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:22 PM CST When will I learn ?
GRshygirl
GRshygirlGRshygirlGrand Rapids, Michigan USA6 Threads 135 Posts
you probably did help these women in some way. I don't think you'll be able to get the social worker out of you. I think you are a very sweet man.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:23 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
alabamabebe: Only if they want to.


And I don't believe that she wants to.
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Jun 16, 2008 11:42 PM CST When will I learn ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
GRshygirl: you probably did help these women in some way. I don't think you'll be able to get the social worker out of you. I think you are a very sweet man.


As I think that you are a very sweet woman.
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Jun 17, 2008 5:43 AM CST When will I learn ?
arabella
arabellaarabellaNear Farmington, Maine USA98 Threads 1 Polls 6,199 Posts
The lady upstairs? Or is she downstairs in your building? laugh

Don't take it so seriously, Leo

I attract those kind of people too, because I like to be social, drink some wine and laugh.

Usually it turns out to be more drama than I want.


You're not riculous hug
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