This is just a horrible and sick thing this guy did. He should rot in jail. (Disturbing,warning!!) (236)
crotalus_p: If he was manic to the point where he become psychotic and delusional
he can not be held accountable whats so hard to undersatand about that ??
Oh Great Crotulas has been trying to read stuff off the internet again, Geez , you don't know about real life.he can not be held accountable whats so hard to undersatand about that ??
And the disease 
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mylifewithu: Oh Great Crotulas has been trying to read stuff off the internet again, Geez , you don't know about real life. And the disease
Apparently I know a lot more than you do
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crotalus_p: Apparently I know a lot more than you do
Wrong , I have been around many of them , and this is bull crap lies that you are telling, You don't know crap about any freaking thing except what you get off the internet to put people down just to feel good about your Own self, freaking selfish lies to feel good about a worthless life and hurt others, that is sick.
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mylifewithu: Wrong , I have been around many of them , and this is bull crap lies that you are telling, You don't know crap about any freaking thing except what you get off the internet to put people down just to feel good about your Own self, freaking selfish lies to feel good about a worthless life and hurt others, that is sick.
Do you feel better after that little tantrum ???
That is an incorrect assumption
Sorry but your off by a mile, it may be why you go off on one of your little rants but it is not my reason for posting
You know you have a habit of attacking my personality using abusive posts and just acting like a downright nasty piece of work I was not abusive towards you yet you found the need to be abusive towards me what’s that say about you ??
Don't worry I forgive you, for you know not what you do
Now I am off down the gym
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crotalus_p: Do you feel better after that little tantrum ???
That is an incorrect assumption
Sorry but your off by a mile, it may be why you go off on one of your little rants but it is not my reason for posting You know you have a habit of attacking my personality using abusive posts and just acting like a downright nasty piece of work I was not abusive towards you yet you found the need to be abusive towards me what’s that say about you ??
Don't worry I forgive you, for you know not what you do
Now I am off down the gym
When I see you go off on good people and you treat them like crap and not give a dam about their feelings, You bet I will go into a rant, you are so childish and MEAN!!That is an incorrect assumption
Sorry but your off by a mile, it may be why you go off on one of your little rants but it is not my reason for posting You know you have a habit of attacking my personality using abusive posts and just acting like a downright nasty piece of work I was not abusive towards you yet you found the need to be abusive towards me what’s that say about you ??
Don't worry I forgive you, for you know not what you do
Now I am off down the gym
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mylifewithu: When I see you go off on good people and you treat them like crap and not give a dam about their feelings, You bet I will go into a rant, you are so childish and MEAN!!
don't let it trouble you. It's probably what they want anyway.
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keytone: don't let it trouble you. It's probably what they want anyway.
You are right, it is what he wants and at the expense of others feelings, he has a need to look big bad better,
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crotalus_p: Do you feel better after that little tantrum ???
That is an incorrect assumption
Sorry but your off by a mile, it may be why you go off on one of your little rants but it is not my reason for posting You know you have a habit of attacking my personality using abusive posts and just acting like a downright nasty piece of work I was not abusive towards you yet you found the need to be abusive towards me what’s that say about you ??
Don't worry I forgive you, for you know not what you do
Now I am off down the gym
No you weren't abusive to me, you were to Ken . And you know what you can act like a big man pretend you know some thing or everything like you do, but you are going to always be all that you know that you really are, and you know that is just nothing, so thats why you treat others so freaking bad just so you can feel like a big tough smart man and try try try to feel good about your own selfish self.That is an incorrect assumption
Sorry but your off by a mile, it may be why you go off on one of your little rants but it is not my reason for posting You know you have a habit of attacking my personality using abusive posts and just acting like a downright nasty piece of work I was not abusive towards you yet you found the need to be abusive towards me what’s that say about you ??
Don't worry I forgive you, for you know not what you do
Now I am off down the gym
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Barnard was drunk , bipolar and off his medication.
Alrite .. i will try to give a little opinion from both sides of the coin ..
1)if barnard was drunk .. doesnt mean anything .. cos he ought to be very drunk to be emotionally numb and aggressive.
2) off his meds and bipolar also means not much. As it depends on the severity of his disease which ought to be serious if him being off meds has to lead to such a drastic step.
BPD ( bipolar disorder ) does range from Mania ( elevated moods ) to depression. RARE cases have full blown mania which includes being psychotic.
Now THIS guy could clearly have skipped his meds so that he escaped the blame OR skipped them for no good reason.
His ACT , what he did comes across more as an act of RAGE .. anger and posessiveness THAN an act of delusion. As already mentioned , his girlfriend was trying to get away from him.
We dont know the background details but possibly it could have to do with his temper , violent behavior ( a possibility which i am just guessing ) ..
Is he liable to be charged based on his illness details ???
This topic of mental illness and crimial trial has a life of its own , complicated and very serious with emotional implications.
Just like a severely deranged person has no clue how what he did feels or why or why not.
Similarly , its impossible to convince the kith and kin of the ones who suffer at the hands of such deviant people that their disease made them do it and so they should be put under treatment instead of jail.
Ask me , I have no clue whose side to take. Though i feel very strongly for the family of the ones who have suffered.
But i DO think letting such people scott free is NOT the solution.
NO .. I dont hate or detest them cos as a doctor i know that a severely deranged person is not really in the realms of logical judgement. But there are certain rules of living in a healthy society for safety of self and others and hence they do need rehab in to isolation or some place not in contact with the routine world.
Alrite .. i will try to give a little opinion from both sides of the coin ..
1)if barnard was drunk .. doesnt mean anything .. cos he ought to be very drunk to be emotionally numb and aggressive.
2) off his meds and bipolar also means not much. As it depends on the severity of his disease which ought to be serious if him being off meds has to lead to such a drastic step.
BPD ( bipolar disorder ) does range from Mania ( elevated moods ) to depression. RARE cases have full blown mania which includes being psychotic.
Now THIS guy could clearly have skipped his meds so that he escaped the blame OR skipped them for no good reason.
His ACT , what he did comes across more as an act of RAGE .. anger and posessiveness THAN an act of delusion. As already mentioned , his girlfriend was trying to get away from him.
We dont know the background details but possibly it could have to do with his temper , violent behavior ( a possibility which i am just guessing ) ..
Is he liable to be charged based on his illness details ???
This topic of mental illness and crimial trial has a life of its own , complicated and very serious with emotional implications.
Just like a severely deranged person has no clue how what he did feels or why or why not.
Similarly , its impossible to convince the kith and kin of the ones who suffer at the hands of such deviant people that their disease made them do it and so they should be put under treatment instead of jail.
Ask me , I have no clue whose side to take. Though i feel very strongly for the family of the ones who have suffered.
But i DO think letting such people scott free is NOT the solution.
NO .. I dont hate or detest them cos as a doctor i know that a severely deranged person is not really in the realms of logical judgement. But there are certain rules of living in a healthy society for safety of self and others and hence they do need rehab in to isolation or some place not in contact with the routine world.
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I do think people should be careful when making medical diagnoses , comments and assumptions here or maybe add a " i think " or i am guessing cos there could be a lot of people reading this who are affected by whats going on or being discussed.
I mean certain issues are not just threads and people who are posting are live people so maybe a little care in the way we put across our opinions would be ideal.
I mean certain issues are not just threads and people who are posting are live people so maybe a little care in the way we put across our opinions would be ideal.
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Kristenis gone now can we let her rest from these forums.
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riyablossom: I do think people should be careful when making medical diagnoses , comments and assumptions here or maybe add a " i think " or i am guessing cos there could be a lot of people reading this who are affected by whats going on or being discussed.
I mean certain issues are not just threads and people who are posting are live people so maybe a little care in the way we put across our opinions would be ideal.
agreed, and well put, I have seen first hand that each case is so different than the next, and so many people are hurt by many comments that we will never know.I mean certain issues are not just threads and people who are posting are live people so maybe a little care in the way we put across our opinions would be ideal.
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crotalus_p: No need , Smile there is no Hell (although you seem to be suffering from delusions involving a sky fairy )
I hope this was an attempt at humor but whatever it is its a sad one.
Not done !!
When Ken's acknowledged his situation , the least one can do if you still want to debate with him on the topic at hand is NOT get personal.
He mentioned robbed a bank etc if thats what you are going to say .. it has nothing to do with you personally. But your comment IS getting personal.
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keytone: agreed, and well put, I have seen first hand that each case is so different than the next, and so many people are hurt by many comments that we will never know.
Absolutely.
Not everyone is going to be strong or emotionally confident or sorted out. So i think its a responsibility we all share towards each other of using an acceptable tone and language on sensitive issues.
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riyablossom: Absolutely.
Not everyone is going to be strong or emotionally confident or sorted out. So i think its a responsibility we all share towards each other of using an acceptable tone and language on sensitive issues.
Not everyone is going to be strong or emotionally confident or sorted out. So i think its a responsibility we all share towards each other of using an acceptable tone and language on sensitive issues.
yep,,, I have been watching this subject and many others come up and I know for me it can pull old memories to the surface that I dont need to think about. My Ex was ,,maybe still is Bipolar..unfortunately also had a very bad addiction problem and so on and so forth. None of these conditions are "easy" and people that think it is cut and dry are just not correct...so many different cases..like I always say,,individuals...even in this I find there is not a status that applies to all.
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Bipolar or not he does deserve to rot in jail. What is the world coming to.
Mental health really needs to be reformed. As I work in the industry I see dangerous people released from MH facilities all the time with the notion of they need social contact only to return a short time later after committing these types of offenses. Bring back the institutions and lock them up until they are better (if never released, so be it).
Good on ya for saying what you think DaisyChick.
Mental health really needs to be reformed. As I work in the industry I see dangerous people released from MH facilities all the time with the notion of they need social contact only to return a short time later after committing these types of offenses. Bring back the institutions and lock them up until they are better (if never released, so be it).
Good on ya for saying what you think DaisyChick.
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Spot on Riya as usual !!!
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mylifewithu: When I see you go off on good people and you treat them like crap and not give a dam about their feelings, You bet I will go into a rant, you are so childish and MEAN!!
I did not go off on any one you just misinterpreted my post and used It as an excuse to vent your personal anger
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crotalus_p: I did not go off on any one you just misinterpreted my post and used It as an excuse to vent your personal anger
Are you a bender?
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No need , Smile there is no Hell