BarrenPneuma: Put away the pic Shelly... put it down and step back from it... Croty is trying to get out of this one with some sort of dignity... he will never say he is wrong, his assimilation into the Borg will not allow it but he is fighting with the last vestige of humanity still in his automated form to make some kind of peace here.... Put it down no need for the pic...
I was trying to be nice...but hey...if the pic fits....
BarrenPneuma: Croty is trying to get out of this one with some sort of dignity...
My dignity is completely in tact I just don’t care to keep arguing the same point over and over again it the same thread To people that are not prepare to listen before passing judgement on the argument
BarrenPneuma: he will never say he is wrong,...
that is just lie , in this case I am not wrong so I shall not admit to being wrong
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
Wow...I have some great friends here. Thank you all so much for standing up for all people with bipolar disease. Thank you for being such wonderful people.
First of all, I apologize to Croatus if I offended him by my comment, "pray for your lost soul". I do know your religious beliefs, or non-beliefs, however, I was practicing my personal religious belief when I made the comment. I say prayers for all people, regardless of their beliefs. My personal relationship with God and Jesus Christ is mine. I believe that all people need to find God and that is why I said "lost soul". If you understand my point of view, it was a nice gesture I was making. It wasn't intended to be a backhand slap at you, but if you took it that way, I am sorry.
Second...if Croatus believes that a man with bipolar disease automatically is considered deranged if he is in the manic stage, that is his opinion and he is entitled to it. I believe otherwise, but he can think what he wants to. So that's the end of that.
Last, and this comment has nothing to do with Croatus, but it is my own opinion. There are many people with bipolar disorder on this site. I won't say who they are but trust me, they are here. Also, there are people who have relatives with bipolar disorder. That can be very difficult for them and my heart goes out to you. There are people here with clinical depression, and also, my heart goes out to you. Depression is comparable to bipolar disease. It is a hell on Earth I would not wish on anyone.
I am 46 years old and have never been married, have kids, couldn't finish college and have no career. All I wanted in life were those things I just listed. I am not into material things at all..I am even the opposite as I am a minimalist. But the things in life most people take for granted, are and were out of my reach. That cuts my heart in half everyday, realizing I will probably never have the opportunity to achieve my life's goals.
It is not easy to come to a dating site and tell people in an open forum I have bipolar disease. The distortions and stereotypes that have been manifested over the years are hard to overcome. But I believe in being honest with people. I don't wear my disease as some kind of badge of honor. I am an honest person who is an open book, and will freely and openly talk about the disease to try and help people get a better understanding and perspective. I do not want any sympathy, or people to feel sorry for me. I do rely on my friends sometimes in private when I am feeling very depressed. They are a blessing to me and I love them for it.
All I wanted to do is to maybe find someone to love and for someone to love me back. I have alot of love to give and I hope to meet someone someday who will accept me as a whole person...not just my bipolar disease. I apologize that this thread went off on a tangent. The topic at hand is so important. Sometimes, when I am feeling bad, I do seek attention. But I didn't mean to do it in this thread. I apologize to Jen, and the father of the children involved. I will keep praying for them and Krista. Thank you.
mbcasey: First of all, I apologize to Croatus if I offended him by my comment, "pray for your lost soul".
There is no need to apologise Ken to be honest it takes a lot to offend me , to be honest I thought it was more an attempt at humour than offence ( by the way if I offended you I apologise )
mbcasey: Second...if Croatus believes that a man with bipolar disease automatically is considered deranged if he is in the manic stage, that is his opinion and he is entitled to it.
I absolutely 100% do not believe that a man with bipolar disease automatically is considered deranged if he is in the manic stage, I do however maintain that in some rare cases it can happen , I also maintain that a significant number of people with bipolar do have other serious mental issues a large proportion of whom go undiagnosed , so it is unwise for every one to judge this man with out knowing all the facts if you look back threw my posts you will see that most of my posts where in response to statements like “illness or not he should be hanged”
mbcasey: Sometimes, when I am feeling bad, I do seek attention.
There is nothing wrong with that , there are plenty of people here seeking attention and many more willing to give it who knows maybe the next thread you start will bring you love ???
mbcasey: It is not easy to come to a dating site and tell people in an open forum I have bipolar disease. The distortions and stereotypes that have been manifested over the years are hard to overcome. But I believe in being honest with people. I don't wear my disease as some kind of badge of honor. I am an honest person who is an open book, and will freely and openly talk about the disease to try and help people get a better understanding and perspective. Ken
Ken, thank you for sharing. Your articulate, brave and honest opinion is a blessing. You know that I experienced many years of similar pain dealing with my ex-husbands mental illness. It is devasting to all involved.
But I can also agree to a point with Crotalusp. Many/Some with Bipolar or other mental illnesses can suffer from multiple problems. My ex began with Bipolar and within a few years was disagnosed Schizo-Affective, slightly less severe than Schizophrenia. He experienced rare events of delusion, psychosis and irrational thought processes. He was able to plan and execute things that later confused and horrified him. I don't think this necesarily makes a person innocent of their actions but just perhaps, another perspective?
Larry Barnard, who set fire in July 2008 to the Southwest McMinnville residence he shared with girlfriend Krista Wiegel, who later died of burns covering 80 percent of her body, pleaded guilty Tuesday afternoon to one count each of first-degree manslaughter and first-degree arson.
The manslaughter charge is considered a lesser included offense of the charge of murder.
The 39-year-old defendant will be formally sentenced to almost 17 years in prison — 200 months — at 11 a.m. Monday in Yamhill County Circuit Court.
See Wednesday’s print edition of the News-Register for additional details.
No trial, no appeals, no early release programs - he does every minute of it. Closure for the kids as this won't drag on and on in the court system.
sjwor: Larry Barnard, who set fire in July 2008 to the Southwest McMinnville residence he shared with girlfriend Krista Wiegel, who later died of burns covering 80 percent of her body, pleaded guilty Tuesday afternoon to one count each of first-degree manslaughter and first-degree arson.
The manslaughter charge is considered a lesser included offense of the charge of murder.
The 39-year-old defendant will be formally sentenced to almost 17 years in prison — 200 months — at 11 a.m. Monday in Yamhill County Circuit Court.
See Wednesday’s print edition of the News-Register for additional details.
No trial, no appeals, no early release programs - he does every minute of it. Closure for the kids as this won't drag on and on in the court system.
Glad to hear that SOME kind of justice is served now! Of course it will never bring her back to her kids!
Att. Murder wouild be the charge but police are waiting to see if she dies I am sure so they can hit him with 1degree murder that would carry the death penalty in most states I dont believe this bipolar excuse almost every inmate I see that comes through the jail claims bipolar I think its time some folks stood responsable for their actions the thing we can do for her is PRAY
slawson: Att. Murder wouild be the charge but police are waiting to see if she dies I am sure so they can hit him with 1degree murder that would carry the death penalty in most states I dont believe this bipolar excuse almost every inmate I see that comes through the jail claims bipolar I think its time some folks stood responsable for their actions the thing we can do for her is PRAY
If you'll read the post from an hour ago, she DID die!
clara1956Punta Arenas, Magallanes Region Chile1,426 posts
This is so horrible... simnilar thing happened in my town almost two years ago. Man pours gasoline on eight-month pregnant partner... Could you believe it? The woman had around 80% of her body injured, and thanks God both her and her baby girl survived.
Medsummer09: okay, we're not responsible for his life he's living either so let's let him go and maybe he'll wind up dating your sister or daughter someday.
not that the guy who argued this point will read this...a year later.
Being bi polar must be absolutely awful for the person who is suffering from this. Not everyone who suffers this is accountable for their actions or responsible either. We have to give people their due. Imagine if it was yourself who suffered from such and went on to commit a horrendous crime. Quite simply we do not cater for people enough anymore in society. If we provided better treatment and understanding of illnesses then perhaps there would be less occurances of people suffering from any sort of depression, and commiting harmful acts on themselves and others.
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I was trying to be nice...but hey...if the pic fits....