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Aug 16, 2008 7:39 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Do you believe in...

the existence of an invisible intelligence that operates beneath the visible surface of life? That the mystery of life is an expression not of random accidents but of one intelligence that exists everywhere? Is such an intelligence believeable, or should you continue to believe in random events and chance causation?

Did you know that...

In Africa, certain tree that are being overforaged can signal other trees miles away to increase the tannin in their leaves, a chemical that makes them inedible to foraging animals. The distant trees receive the message and alter their chemistry accordingly.

Fireflies in Indonesia numbering in the millions are able to synchronize their flashes over an area of several square miles.

To read this sentence, several million neurons in your cerebral cortex had to form an instantaneous pattern that is completely original and never appeared before in your life.



What'dya think???
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Aug 16, 2008 7:49 AM CST Do YOU believe in
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
I think our world is just amazing beyond belief and we should
all just be glad and enjoy it for what it is and help others more
to look after themselves to end poverty and war.

But we need to eradicate the hate gene to achieve this is seems, or maybe end religion.

Personally I do not believe in an invisible intelligence.

This is no answer, why bang your end against a wall about it.

peace devil
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Aug 16, 2008 7:51 AM CST Do YOU believe in
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
so, what you are asking is...do you believe in God!!.............Not suredunno
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Aug 16, 2008 7:59 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
I'm just curious what a general consensus of what people think... if a power could or would be
greater than themselves is in the realm of their belief system. I don't care to prove anything or
to be judgmental at all.
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Aug 16, 2008 8:08 AM CST Do YOU believe in
OverTheWindow
OverTheWindowOverTheWindowChicago, Paris, Marseille, Illinois USA6 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
We just know about few percents of our brain fonctions...
And if we could ever know more about it, would we believe in what we would discover then?
I am pondering many times but the question is a huge one and it makes my neurons burn help

I am aware that several things are involved in mysterious conclusions within this world we're living in.
Nature in its complexity is an indecipherable power we are not always ready to understand. wow
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Aug 16, 2008 8:25 AM CST Do YOU believe in
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
There is a God, I ain't him....dunno
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Aug 16, 2008 8:29 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
It would seem plausable to me that after a while - at a point in one's life, that, we would generate
enough data within ourselves to come to some kind of conclusion about our belief system regarding
a higher power.

Personally, to know how someone else thinks on this particualar subject is vitally important as to whether
one wants to include them in their life as a partner.

To have someone who is like-minded and where one is not having to constantly defend their belief system is of great importance and should be discussed beforehand.
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Aug 16, 2008 8:43 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
HJFinAZ: There is a God, I ain't him....


Reach beyond (Mr.Bill) giggle How do you know that for sure...?
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Aug 16, 2008 8:47 AM CST Do YOU believe in
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
"Deep down in every man, woman & child, is the fundamental idea of God. It may be obscured by calamity, by pomp, by worship of other things, but in some form or other it is there. For faith in a Power greater than ourselves, and miraculous demonstrations of that power in human lives, are facts as old as man himself.

We finally saw that faith in some kind of God was part of our make-up, just as much as the feeling we have for a friend. Sometimes we had to search fearlessly, but he was there. He was as much a fact as we were. We found the Great Reality deep down within us. In the last analysis it is only there that He may be found. It was so with us."



A quote from p.55 of a very special book I study..wink
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Aug 16, 2008 8:52 AM CST Do YOU believe in
HJFinAZ: "Deep down in every man, woman & child, is the fundamental idea of God. It may be obscured by calamity, by pomp, by worship of other things, but in some form or other it is there. For faith in a Power greater than ourselves, and miraculous demonstrations of that power in human lives, are facts as old as man himself.

We finally saw that faith in some kind of God was part of our make-up, just as much as the feeling we have for a friend. Sometimes we had to search fearlessly, but he was there. He was as much a fact as we were. We found the Great Reality deep down within us. In the last analysis it is only there that He may be found. It was so with us."
A quote from p.55 of a very special book I study..

Yep!!!!!thumbs up<===to all of that!thumbs up cool
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Aug 16, 2008 8:52 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
HJFinAZ: "Deep down in every man, woman & child, is the fundamental idea of God. It may be obscured by calamity, by pomp, by worship of other things, but in some form or other it is there. For faith in a Power greater than ourselves, and miraculous demonstrations of that power in human lives, are facts as old as man himself.

We finally saw that faith in some kind of God was part of our make-up, just as much as the feeling we have for a friend. Sometimes we had to search fearlessly, but he was there. He was as much a fact as we were. We found the Great Reality deep down within us. In the last analysis it is only there that He may be found. It was so with us."
A quote from p.55 of a very special book I study..


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How wonderful. And, there is so much more to know.

Ain't it interesting (!)
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Aug 16, 2008 8:54 AM CST Do YOU believe in
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Dusty45: Do you believe in...

the existence of an invisible intelligence that operates beneath the visible surface of life?


no.


invisible intelligence laugh
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Aug 16, 2008 8:54 AM CST Do YOU believe in
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Dusty45: ---

How wonderful. And, there is so much more to know.

Ain't it interesting (!)


And all I have to do is "accept", become willing to believe..wink
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Aug 16, 2008 8:55 AM CST Do YOU believe in
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
Dusty45: It would seem plausable to me that after a while - at a point in one's life, that, we would generate
enough data within ourselves to come to some kind of conclusion about our belief system regarding
a higher power.

If it were possible to generate that data ourselves, we'd have no need of a higher power.


Personally, to know how someone else thinks on this particualar subject is vitally important as to whether
one wants to include them in their life as a partner.

It is not vitally important. You won't die if your partner doesn't believe what you do. In fact it's guaranteed that they won't think like you on most of what they believe becasue everyone is unique.


To have someone who is like-minded and where one is not having to constantly defend their belief system is of great importance and should be discussed beforehand.

Importance to whom? Not to me definitely and not to many other people I know who are broadminded enough to look beyond belief systems at the whole person!!!


It is not good to make statements that generalise about what you think people's beliefs and tenets for living are, when one person can not possibly know how many others think, except on a few of the more basic levels, such as that we have to breathe to live........
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Aug 16, 2008 8:58 AM CST Do YOU believe in
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
gingerb: It is not good to make statements that generalise about what you think people's beliefs and tenets for living are, when one person can not possibly know how many others think, except on a few of the more basic levels, such as that we have to breathe to live........


Is she making a statement, or asking a question?dunno grin
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Aug 16, 2008 8:59 AM CST Do YOU believe in
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Dusty45: Do you believe in...

the existence of an invisible intelligence that operates beneath the visible surface of life? That the mystery of life is an expression not of random accidents but of one intelligence that exists everywhere? Is such an intelligence believeable, or should you continue to believe in random events and chance causation?

Did you know that...

In Africa, certain tree that are being overforaged can signal other trees miles away to increase the tannin in their leaves, a chemical that makes them inedible to foraging animals. The distant trees receive the message and alter their chemistry accordingly.

Fireflies in Indonesia numbering in the millions are able to synchronize their flashes over an area of several square miles.

To read this sentence, several million neurons in your cerebral cortex had to form an instantaneous pattern that is completely original and never appeared before in your life.
What'dya think???


Carlos Castenada wrote about a similar thought two planes of existence which we live in both simultaneously.
I enjoyed the concept and still have the trilogy on my bookcase.
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Aug 16, 2008 8:59 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45: Reach beyond (Mr.Bill) How do you know that for sure...?
Got a great little Slogan in my Collection:


IT works for people who believe in god
IT works for people who don't believe in god
IT NEVER works for people who believe they ARE god

We know what "IT" stands for!
grin conversing wave
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Aug 16, 2008 8:59 AM CST Do YOU believe in
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
It is all a matter of perception............wink
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Aug 16, 2008 9:02 AM CST Do YOU believe in
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
HJFinAZ: Is she making a statement, or asking a question?


She started off by saying "It seems plausible to me....."

No question there. That's definitely a statement.wave
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Aug 16, 2008 9:04 AM CST Do YOU believe in
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
gingerb: It is not good to make statements that generalise about what you think people's beliefs and tenets for living are, when one person can not possibly know how many others think, except on a few of the more basic levels, such as that we have to breathe to live........


I truly do appreciate your feelings about this and your comments. (Thank you)

I guess at this point in my life I would like to cut down on the drama (s) and to know if the other
person's beliefs were at all similar to mine.
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